Sarah defies Saudi thugs, won't leave without kids!

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, June 20, 2003 | Pat Roush

[cgk]

I agree. From what I've heard about her story from her mother - Sara's mom married a Saudi. When they divorced, she visited her dad in Saudi Arabia. One visit, he simply stopped her from leaving, forcibly converted her to Islam, and married her off, where her children came from. Now that she is a Saudi wife, she has no rights to speak of and is not considered an American citizen by that country any longer. They want her children, to keep their bloodlines clean of inbreeding, which is one of the reasons they are always trying to marry Europeans and Westerners.

[KC Burke]

Was Sara born in the US? Was she ever a citizen or merely the child of her mother and the Saudi husband and a divorce pawn?

[cgk]

Sara was born in the US from the story I've heard (several times now) on FNC... after the divorce she visited her dad and one day, never came back.

[PeaceCorpsGuy]

God Speed Sarah! Make it home safely! We'll all be praying for you until you are home safe and sound.

[KC Burke]

So she grew to adolesence in SA and was married in an arranged marriage and had two children, by that marriage, in Saudi Arabia. Is there any dispute that the children of Sara aren't US citizens or should not be subject to the laws of the land of their birth and the native country of their father?

[cgk]

I found more on the story here at World Net Daily, though it is differing slightly from what Sara's mom has been saying on the FNC shows, who made it sound like Sara visited dad on her own, not at age 5 or so:

Sarah Saga, 23, was kidnapped by her father as a child in 1985 and taken to the kingdom. She has been prohibited from leaving there ever since. As has happened with other Americans, Saga was married off to a Saudi and bore her own children. Now the woman, who claims to have been abused by her father, stepmother and husband, has sought refuge in the U.S. Consulate. She is pleading with U.S. officials to help her and her children, age 3 and 5, travel to America. According to her mother, Debra Dornier, however, Saga has been told if she leaves, her Saudi-born children must stay in the kingdom.

[cgk]

In that WND article I just posted, a US official is saying that Sara's children would be considered American citizens as well as Saudi citizens. Saudi Law does not recognize dual citizenship.

[cinFLA]

The problem is the kids. They are not American citizens.

[MinuteGal]

I sure hope President Bush does something about this situation pronto before Jesse Jackson decides to go to Saudi Arabia to save the day.

leni

[cinFLA]

These are Americans.

She is an American and is free to leave. The kids are not American citizens.

[Ready4Freddy]

Of course they're American citizens. Any child born to an American Citizen has citizenship rights. They'll have all the rights of a citizen until they reach the age of 18, when they have to make a choice.

The above being subject to their presence in the US, of course....

[cinFLA]

Of course they're American citizens.

I hope you are not a lawyer.

[cinFLA]

In that WND article I just posted, a US official is saying that Sara's children would be considered American citizens as well as Saudi citizens.

No US official is quoted. They only say some US official said something. And it could be that he was wrong.

[tuna_battle_slight_return]

Our friends, the Saudi's.........

[cinFLA]

Our friends, the Saudi's.........

Would you want the US to turn over two American kids against their father's wishes to their non-American mother in another country?

[cinFLA]

I just read your homepage. You have immigration law as a specialty.

[Ready4Freddy]

If the mother was born in the US, the children are US citizens.

As my page indicates, I am an attorney. Mostly maritime law, but immigration as well.

[cgk]

No US official is quoted. They only say some US official said something. And it could be that he was wrong.

Correct. The official is not quoted by name but the article says this is the something that was supposedly said to AP:

According to the AP report, a U.S. official said today that the children, being of an American mother, were also American. Saudi Arabia, however, does not recognize dual citizenship.

I wasn't trying to play semantics, honest. It's one of my least favorite games. :)

[FITZ]

These are Americans. They are being held hostage.

Are they dual citizens? Don't the children have a Saudi father and a half-American mother and weren't they born in Saudi Arabia?

[Ready4Freddy]

"If the mother was born in the US, the children are US citizens."

There are exceptions, of course, as to whether or not the children acquire US citizenship at birth. The mother's absence from the US will pertain here. I don't think there's any doubt that the children may opt for US Citizenship at age 18, if they can make it to the States.

The main issues here are that 1) - Saudi doesn't recognize dual citizenship to begin with, and 2) - they don't recognize any rights except Saudi male rights. It'll be almost impossible to get the kids out of the country - they can't just walk up to a airline counter and hop on a plane there.