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50 Years Later: Rosenberg Redux
Front Page Magazine ^ | 6/20/03 | Greg Yardley

Posted on 06/20/2003 10:24:45 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband

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To: HISSKGB
Honest?....LOL

Wonder if the little kiddies had show trials. Bet the Trotskyite kids were afraid of getting a pick-axe in the head.

During the Elian saga the brothers wrote to Castro and said those trying to keep Elian in America were the same type of people who murdered their parents. Fidel read the letter to a crowd gathered in front of the only memorial to the Rosenbergs in the world--one in a Havana park.

21 posted on 06/20/2003 2:31:09 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Bump as a reminder to me to get permission to reprint.
22 posted on 06/20/2003 4:22:55 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: DPB101
Are there any reprints of the Duranty lies?

THOSE would also come in handy today. Let us not forget the history as it changed due to those lies.
23 posted on 06/20/2003 4:27:59 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: DPB101
I read the summer camp link. Eeeeeeeeek!

Even Ivy herself thought the camp was weird and awful.
24 posted on 06/20/2003 4:45:03 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Maelstrom; Gareth_Jones_Archives
Yes. The family of Gareth Jones, a Welsh investigative journalist and contempory of Duranty, has Gareth Jones' articles and some from Duranty archived here:

http://colley.co.uk/garethjones/

The Jones' archives are phenomenal. Hundreds of articles from the 1920s and 1930s. I've searched for years to find such primary source material. A few dispatches from Malcolm Muggeridge are on the site as well.

Nigel Colley, Gareth Jones' great nephew, registered to post on FR last week. His comments are here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927713/posts?page=31#31

25 posted on 06/20/2003 4:49:15 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Almost funny, isn't it? Meeropol is a great name to search on--no false positives.

The brothers try to pin the blame on Morris and Lona Cohen (who fled the USA) here.

Michael explains the wonders of socialized medicine here.

Michael calls Rush a liar here.

Michael will explain how to be good communists for food here. .He wants $400 to $800 a day, plus transportation.

26 posted on 06/20/2003 4:59:31 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Required reading.
27 posted on 06/20/2003 5:38:56 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: MEG33
Mark
28 posted on 06/20/2003 6:16:29 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: DPB101
Ivy Meeropol is awful. Clearly she would not get as much print work if she was not the grandchild of the Rosenbergs and she uses it!
29 posted on 06/20/2003 7:39:12 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: DPB101
Saw the same TV show on the traitor Greenglass and my reaction was the same as yours. The hypocrisy of the left is breathtaking. I think a lot of it is arrested adolescence combined with an equal amount of self-hate, with a liberal helping of stupidity. Go figure.
30 posted on 06/20/2003 7:46:30 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; MEG33; redbaiter; HISSKGB
groan....
Havana. June 20, 2003
Granma International:
http://www.granma.cu/

Message from the Rosenberg family to the people of Cuba

We, the children and grandchildren of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, send warm greetings to the Cuban people on the 50th anniversary of that cruel assassination perpetrated by the government of the United States.

From the time of the Second Declaration of Havana to date you have always expressed firm solidarity with them. You have recognized both the criminal and shameful fact of their execution and the valor of their resistance.

The U.S. government used our parents and grandparents like chess pieces in its Cold War politics. They put pressure on them to cooperate and declare their guilt with the promise of commuting the death penalty served on them. But that ill-named cooperation would have signified accepting the role that the U.S. government was attempting to impose on them: to intensify the ant-Communist hysteria of the Cold War period at a time when the conflict with Korea was threatening to become World War III.

Refusing to be part of this macabre game constitutes an act of inexpressible resistance, a resistance that we continue applauding to these days.

Once more, we greet the people of Cuba on this day and thank you for all these years of unconditional support that you have shown to our beloved Ethel and Julius.

Yours sincerely,

Michael, Robert, Gregory Julian, Rachel, Jennifer Ethel (children and grandchildren of the Rosenbergs).


31 posted on 06/20/2003 7:47:14 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Ivy didn't sign...interesting. Probably because she most likely wants to run for office one day. She works for Dem congresspeople.
32 posted on 06/20/2003 8:15:33 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Thanks for the post. The CPUSA's history is one of my favorite subjects. You know I've been meaning to ask DPB101 if the reason the Rosenbergs didn't talk is the Soviets threatened to kill the kids if they did talk?
33 posted on 06/20/2003 8:49:52 PM PDT by dix
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To: dix; DPB101
Actually no.

Greenglass himself said in a book (from another thread) that the Rosenbergs didn't talk to protect other people.

And the quotes I've seen from Ethel are your typical Kool-Aid Communist Dogma stuff: "The United States is a fascist state!" etc.

They could have at any time talked. Julius appeared to be the main recruiter of all of them, David, Ruth and his wife.

Ethel may or may not have been actually involved, and Greenglass himself has said that his own wife Ruth typed the documents they gave to the Soviets.

He said he implicated Ethel and lied because he did not want to lose his wife.

However, the murky thing to me is whether Ethel truly knew. It's clear she was a communist, clear she was under the influence of her husband, but unclear if she was involved in any way.
34 posted on 06/20/2003 9:36:00 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Someone posted the details of Ethel's involvement. No doubt in my mind she did enough to be convicted even without Ruth and David Greenglass.
35 posted on 06/20/2003 10:18:56 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
and Suemyra Shah, a militant member of UC-Berkeley's Students for Justice in Palestine.

The Palestinians just looooove traitorous Jews who betray their own country (whether it's the Rosenbergs or Peace Now)

36 posted on 06/20/2003 10:24:36 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
BTT
37 posted on 06/20/2003 10:59:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DPB101
Thank you.

Although I used that site as a resource, it only has 1 article that I could find and excerpts of the others.

Don't you find it odd, however, that the Pulitzer Prize winning author, Duranty, should have absolutely no online presence wherein the lies he wrote winning him that prize can be now located?
38 posted on 06/21/2003 10:15:42 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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Very odd. The New York Times is defending Duranty by saying the dispatches which won him the prize were before the ones in which he vigorously defended Stalin.

Yet the New York Times hasn't made them generally available so everyone can see for themselves.

Maybe we should ask to see all his work, eh?

Have you checked Stalin's apologist : Walter Duranty, the New York Times man in Moscow, by S.J. Taylor, (New York : Oxford University Press, 1990). Might be some excerpts in there. A lenghty review of the book is here.

Harold Denny followed Duranty at the Times Moscow bureau. He too denied the Holodomor. Very few quotes from him on the net also. In one I've found he says there is plenty of food around, collectivization is working swell and he has personally tasted honey from "Bolshevik bees."

Please flag me if you find more. Thanks.

39 posted on 06/21/2003 10:33:57 AM PDT by DPB101
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Very odd. The New York Times is defending Duranty by saying the dispatches which
won him the prize were before the ones in which he vigorously defended Stalin.

You were expecting the Times to admit it was wrong?

Yet the New York Times hasn't made them generally available so everyone can see for themselves.

Silly, you act as if you live in a republic with freedom of the press, and First Amendment rights. This is "privileged information for the liberal elite. We, the people, hardly qualify to read such high-level info.

40 posted on 06/21/2003 11:11:15 AM PDT by Liz
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