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With Gays Marrying in Canada, & APA Going Easy on Pedophiles, Republicans Must Take a Stand!
Ave Maria

Posted on 06/20/2003 4:05:52 PM PDT by AveMaria

NOTE: I posted the message below several weeks ago. Since that time, there have been several new developments. The American Psychological Association is now considering normalizing pedophilia, as it did to homosexuality in 1973. Canada has now normalized homosexual marriages, to be exactly equal in status to heterosexual marriages. And Presidential candidate, Howard Dean, has demanded that America extend recognition to Canadian gay marriages. And he is a guy who stands a good chance of winning the Democratic nomination (and possibly the Presidency if the economy is not booming in November 2004.)

REPUBLICANS AND HOMOSEXUALITY - By Ave Maria

It is time for the Republican Party and the Conservative Movement to make a clear and unambigous moral statement on homosexuality, and stop sending out mixed messages. In 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1992, the Republicans run on a clear, unapologetic, and unambigous platform of family values and traditional morality. Not surprisingly, they won 3 out of those 4 elections, but lost in 1992 because Ross Perot attracted some conservatives to his side.

Whichever way you try to spin it, homosexuality is a behavior. YES! It is a BEHAVIOR! I totally refuse to buy the psycho-garbage that claims that gays were born that way, and cannot control their behavior. If a human being cannot control his behavior, then he is a danger to himself and others, and should be locked up.

I know something about behavior. I had alcohol problems when I was younger, and my Irish family has suffered from at least 5 generations of alcoholism. So, I knew that my alcoholism was partly genetic, because of my family history. But even during my struggles with alcohol, I knew that every time I raised a glass of whiskey to my lips, I was making a conscious choice to drink. I haven't touched a drop of alcohol in 25 years. I empathise with George W. Bush as a human being, partly because he made a conscious decision to give up alcohol, just like I did.

I have also done a lot of reading of medical literature on alcholism, and I have read of something that experts describe as "dry alcoholism". People who are genetically inclined to alcoholism, may suffer severe cravings for alcohol, or may exhibit certain behavior related to the craving for alcohol such as nervous twitches, overeating, etc. Yet, society expects those of us who are genetically inclined towards alcoholism, to meet the same standards of public behavior as everyone else - such as showing up for work on time, avoiding public drunkeness, and avoiding DUIs. Is society being fair to us, by holding us to the same standards as those who do not have alcoholism genes? Yes! Yes! Yes! It is much harder for those of us genetically inclined to alcoholism, to avoid intoxication, but we try the best that we can. And we do not want law enforcement to make exceptions on DUI laws for us.

Is it too much to ask from homosexuals, to meet the same standards of moral behavior, as those of us who lack the gay orientation? No.

The Ex-Gay movement, says that people who live the homosexual lifestyle, are capable of making a conscious choice to abandon their repulsive behavior. The ex-gays present themselves as living proof, that people can change their homosexual behavior, and start living like normal people - whether as single people living chaste lives, or in married heterosexual relationships with spouses and children: http://www.pfox.org/

If the conservative movement and the GOP want to be true to the principles of their party, by holding everyone to the same standard, then the only truly authentic spokesmen on homosexuality that they should accept are the ex-gays. Ex-gays will not alienate the GOP from their social conservative base - the evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and Orthodox Jews. In fact, ex-gays are represented in those three movements. Ex-gays will make the conservative movement even more conservative and pro-family, and help defeat the moral relativism that is so prevalent in modern society.

On the other hand, the Log Cabin Republicans reduce conservatism to nothing more than cutting taxes: http://www.lcr.org/ Almost all Log Cabin Republicans are RINOS, and most are pro-choice. If the Republican Party and the GOP accept the philosophy of the Log Cabin Republicans, then, they would be accepting moral relativism, and the proposition that human beings are unable to regulate their sexual behavior in accordance to socially acceptable standards.

If the Log Cabin Republicans accept the GOP philosophy on taxes and defence spending, then they are certainly welcome to vote for the GOP. But for the GOP to insult the deepest held beliefs of their most faithful followers, by changing their electoral platform to endorse sickening and disgusting sexual acts, that is simply unacceptable.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: apa; avemariahomophobe; canada; gay; gays; gop; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lcr; logcabinrepublicans; morality; rnc; selfcontrol
How did the Republican Party become the majority party in 1980? By standing up against the moral decadence of the 1960s, and embracing traditional family values. Southern evangelicals who had voted for Carter in 1976, and Conservative urban Catholics from union households, formed the coalition that put Ronald Reagan in the Whitehouse in 1980. They delivered for the Republicans on two more electoral landslides, in 1984 and 1988.

If the GOP fails to distinguish itself from the Democrats on traditional moral values, then they are doomed as a party. How else do they expect to bring back conservative Reagan Democrats to the party? By endorsing the normalization of homosexuality? By supporting special rights for homosexuals? By exempting homosexual from moral standards that all of us should meet?

Republicans must make a moral stand, by distinguishing themselves from Democrats. This does not require intruding into peoples bedrooms. It only requires stating that sexual immorality must not be endorsed or celebrated in the public sphere.

1 posted on 06/20/2003 4:05:52 PM PDT by AveMaria
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To: AveMaria
And if Republicans are concerned about being tolerant and embracing compassionate conservatism, do they think endorsing gay behavior will win them more black and hispanic votes?
2 posted on 06/20/2003 4:09:22 PM PDT by AveMaria
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To: AveMaria
The Republicans will never take a stand on anything. They lack the guts.
3 posted on 06/20/2003 4:10:26 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: AveMaria
The APA gets it right
4 posted on 06/20/2003 4:21:57 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: AveMaria
I agree 100%, but I'm afraid I have little faith that they will.
5 posted on 06/20/2003 4:36:35 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: AveMaria
The Psychiatrists absolutely have NOT accepted the ridiculous proposal by some hare-brained non-physician the pedophilia is "normal," and continue to call this a disease.

However in Canada, the degenerates rule. I want to marry my pet goat, so I think that's the place for me!

6 posted on 06/20/2003 4:49:13 PM PDT by friendly
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To: AveMaria
The truth is that Log Cabin Republicans exist for one reason -- to advance a homosexual agenda within the Republican party and force the nation to accept homosexuality.

I've debated the head of the Minnesota LCR and her friends and few of them are even conservative on other issues and most have very little interest politically in other issues.

7 posted on 06/20/2003 5:11:11 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
I've debated the head of the Minnesota LCR and her friends and few of them are even conservative on other issues and most have very little interest politically in other issues.

I'll Bump THAT!

8 posted on 06/20/2003 5:21:44 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (...........)
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To: AveMaria

Maybe if the Republican Party gets enough Simon- and Falwell- and Roberts-types together, and they all spout off in the press about social issues, they can alienate independent voters so that Republicans can lose to a jackass like Kerry! That would be so great, evangelicals bringing big-fish-in-little-pond status to the Republican party! /sarcasm

How about you have the party finish the job on the issues that unite its winning coalition (i.e., economic and defense issues) before you have it work on dividing it by trying to pass Ashcroftian stuff? Bush won by focusing on typical RAT issues, and shifting focus away from defense and the economy now would be a great way to give the rats ammo for the fall. Better to get entrenched with a solid majority in both houses, and get the ability to legislate through the bench right back at the rats, than to get antsy and blow it.

Image a court with three more Scalias. Yeah, I have a big smile on my face, too.

9 posted on 06/20/2003 6:06:06 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (this tag line was seized by the T.S.A.--it had a point)
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To: AveMaria
The American Psychological Association is now considering normalizing pedophilia, as it did to homosexuality in 1973.

This is false.

10 posted on 06/20/2003 6:15:22 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: AveMaria
<< Is it too much to ask from homosexuals, to meet the same standards of moral behavior, as [Normal folks?]

I once knew a feller who was born with a kleptomaniacal orientation.

Succumbed to it, poor bastard -- and now he's called a thief.

And is doin' 30 years to life.

Usetah be if the deviates converted their "orientation" into sodomy they'd get to meat up with the converted kleptos in the stir.
11 posted on 06/20/2003 6:20:08 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AveMaria
This doesn't seem to be sound political thinking.

Ever-greater acceptance of homosexuality is one of the most indisputable political phenomena of modern Western culture. It increases steadily, even in times when conservatives are politically in ascendance. (Mental exercise: was homosexuality more or less publicly acceptable in 1969, when the degenerate left was near its apex, or in 1992, after 12 years of Reagan/Bush?)

Look at the UCLA Freshman Survey, one of the most large-scale assessements of shifting public opinion among younger people. Young people are massively more conservative than they were on a variety of public safety, defense, and social-welfare type issues, and are becoming more skeptical regarding abortion and other items of that category. But acceptance of homosexuality has left the majority long behind and is approaching consensus.

It should be clear that the practical option for those who feel that homosexuality is a choice, and a bad one at that, is for them to live an exemplary heterosexual life (happy spouse, lots of happy kids, etc.), and hope that homosexuals leading their lives in a less-exemplary fasion will cause people to determine not to make that choice.
12 posted on 06/20/2003 6:20:46 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: friendly
The Psychiatrists absolutely have NOT accepted the ridiculous proposal by some hare-brained non-physician the pedophilia is "normal," and continue to call this a disease.

I was hoping the APA would have dropped pedophilia as a disease so that pedophiles wouldn't have an excuse and would go directly to prison with no treatment or hospital sentencing options available to them.

13 posted on 06/20/2003 6:23:56 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: randog
I was hoping the APA would have dropped pedophilia as a disease so that pedophiles wouldn't have an excuse and would go directly to prison with no treatment or hospital sentencing options available to them.

Treatment is useless on these perverts.

14 posted on 06/20/2003 6:26:24 PM PDT by friendly
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To: friendly
Pedophilia does not meet criteria for NGRI.
15 posted on 06/20/2003 6:30:07 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: friendly
Treatment is useless on these perverts.

Exactly, and without the "disease" crutch, these monsters would have no excuse. Try 'em and fry 'em.

16 posted on 06/20/2003 6:31:53 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: AveMaria
Listen to me carefully:

If the Republican party continues to push an Anti-Abortion/Anti-Homosexual behavior agenda, they will go the way of the Whig party. And fast.

Instead, republicans need to push a fiscally responsible agenda starting with reduction in taxes, curtailing of entitlement programs, and privatizing Socialist inSecurity.

If we conservatives continue to act like this is our agenda, we will lose at the polls every single time. Instead, make our agenda economic conservatism and less socicial conservatism, then we can win elections, and change these problems from within.

The last Presidential election was too close. Let's take America in all 50 states in 2004, then Condi Rice can work on the anti-abortion/anti-homosexual issues when she's elected in 2008!: )

17 posted on 06/20/2003 6:35:06 PM PDT by Loose_Cannon1 (Part French and hating myself for it!!)
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To: Rudder
NGRI = Not guilty by reason of insanity.
18 posted on 06/20/2003 6:40:21 PM PDT by friendly
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To: Rudder
Some of these people post 'scare tactics' in order to further their agenda, whatever that is...locking up homosexuals, I presume.
19 posted on 06/20/2003 7:04:14 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Brian Allen
I play a lot of pocket pool. Does this
mean no more away games?
20 posted on 06/20/2003 7:11:13 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Born in a Rage
They must be very determined to get so worked up that they resort to using false data.
21 posted on 06/20/2003 7:23:11 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Loose_Cannon1
Listen to me carefully: If the Republican party continues to push an Anti-Abortion/Anti-Homosexual behavior agenda, they will go the way of the Whig party. And fast.

Listen to me carefully,

The Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs if it DOES NOT push a pro-life, pro-morality platform- and it won't push them, it will collapse in a pile of value-free mush.

The Constitution Party will have its base by 2008. The Republican base has been pushed as far and fast as it is willing to go.

But go ahead, keep pushing them....

Signed,

Chairman, Constitution Party of Arkansas

22 posted on 06/20/2003 7:33:32 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: Ahban
The Constitution Party will have its base by 2008.

It's gonna take you clowns a lot longer than that.

23 posted on 06/20/2003 7:37:05 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: only1percent
But acceptance of homosexuality has left the majority long behind and is approaching consensus.

IF, just for the sake of arguement this is true (which I doubt, it is a fad among highschool and college age kids) - it is ONLY because of the massive homo-promotion that has been going on for the last generation. It is not an inevitable Darwin-esque evolution social progress that marches on with a mindless will of its own. The homo-activists have infiltrated schools, the ranks of teachers, universities, gov't agencies, beaurocracies and social agencies (what to speak of a lot of churches and synagogues) specifically to bring this about. The homo-activists being actual homosexuals and their fervid supporters.

Your attitude is kind of like what they used to tell women about rape - since it's inevitable, just lie back and enjoy it.

Then they found out that sometimes rapists kill or maim, and that if women fight back they have a much chance of surviving the attack.

24 posted on 06/20/2003 9:44:44 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: AveMaria
There is a lot of crazy folks out there void of morality. I have referred a few to this poll:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/170322
My objection was the nerve of the person who wrote it to try and slant the outcome.
Regarding the Canadian marriage, they ask how you would vote.
Yes, because love is love, or
No, because they are freaks. So if you vote no it is because you are a hater and it isn't because that is abnormal or a sin. Kind of got me upset seeing that.
25 posted on 06/20/2003 9:54:49 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Ahban
The Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs if it DOES NOT push a pro-life, pro-morality platform- and it won't push them, it will collapse in a pile of value-free mush.

Oh, boy, you're SO original.

::SIGH::

Recent polls show Americans overwhelmingly support abortion choice. You can rail all you want against it, but you're not going to change the American public's view. They also support more acceptence of homosexuals.

The more you attempt to try to change it, the more resistence you'll receieve, and the more you'll appear to be the caricature that the leftist DIMocraps paint you to be.

You'll be helping the DIMocraps defeat you. Meanwhile, the REAL issues conservatives should be concentrating on, fiscal conservatism, will be just a pipedream.

26 posted on 06/21/2003 2:00:23 AM PDT by Loose_Cannon1 (Part French and hating myself for it!!)
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To: LibertarianInExile
they can alienate independent voters so that Republicans can lose to a jackass like Kerry

Listen Chicken Little, Liberaltarian voters will always vote Republican in presidential races, they leaned a lesson when they threw their tantrum in South Dakota last year. Now you cry babies just go on and be the irrelevant 2% of the political population and let the grown-ups keep society fit for our children, OK Susan?

27 posted on 06/21/2003 7:02:06 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Loose_Cannon1
The truth often repeated is still the truth, and the garbage you are spewing is still garbage. The polls on homosexuality are running against us right now, due to a multi-billon dollar effort by the media to normalize perversion, but we are winning the hearts and minds struggle on abortion.

In time we will win the homo debate too, because we are right- it is a dangerous and destructive choice which is against the intersts of the individual who practices it and the society which endorses it.

As for letting the demos defeat me, if I must be defeated better it be by my upfront enemies than to be betrayed by my so-called friends.

As for the "fiscal conservative" stuff, you are once again displaying how out of touch you are with current realities. The GOP spends our money like a drunken sailor for every group with a vote to sell. The GOP is neither socially nor fiscally conservative. The Constitution Party is both. Easy decision.
28 posted on 06/21/2003 7:27:06 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: AveMaria
Statement: "With Gays Marrying in Canada, & APA Going Easy on Pedophiles, Republicans must take a stand!"

Response: They cannot take a stand. If they took a stand they would lose votes, by losing votes they would lose office, by losing office they would lose their taxpayer supported 'lifestyle' i.e. little girls, little boys, $10,000 suits, cocaine, $7,500 wine, $5,000 dinners, $100,000 cars, gold furnished bathrooms plus the finest sleep aids. Face the facts morals schmorals!

29 posted on 06/21/2003 7:36:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: AveMaria
With Gays Marrying in Canada, & APA Going Easy on Pedophiles, Republicans Must Take a Stand!

I have a good idea! Let's make the taxpayers buy the queers their pills!!!

Oh, we already do?

Never mind.

30 posted on 06/21/2003 7:37:48 AM PDT by putupon (bad names and dirty words)
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To: Loose_Cannon1
Your assessments are absolutely on the money. The average American wants a government that promotes a strong economy, job growth, and lower taxes. Money in our pocket allows us to buy the best healthcare,the best education, the best neighboorhood, the best vacation.

The silent majority in this country don't agree with a homosexual lifestyle and wouldn't choose it for their own children. However, the absolute, dumbest thing the Republicans can do is to take a stand against homosexuality that allows the democrats and media to call them "haters" and "intolerant" of people's private lives. A stand against immorality will be played in the media as just another "sex obsession." That will remind people of clinton/lewinsky/starr/tripp. News headlines will be, "The scary Republicans want to be in your bedroom!"

Put money in people's pockets and they don't really care what their neighbors are doing. Let the church and individual families handle their own morality.

31 posted on 06/21/2003 7:45:14 AM PDT by carmody
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To: Ahban
The polls on homosexuality are running against us right now

Good news, the Quinnipiac Poll says otherwise.

“Asked in the poll whether they personally believe homosexual behavior is morally acceptable or morally wrong, 58 percent of respondents said it is wrong and 27 percent said it is acceptable. Fourteen percent were undecided.”

32 posted on 06/21/2003 7:49:59 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: gcruse
I play a lot of pocket pool.

Do you have a ball in the side pocket? :)

33 posted on 06/21/2003 7:54:50 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: AM2000
It's gonna take you clowns a lot longer than that.

Maybe not, as long as they do not adopt the "f*ck you" platform of the Libertarian party.

34 posted on 06/21/2003 7:56:42 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: gcruse
Not sure's how you'd notice much difference up there.

Darned KKKanucks have always been pretty much up themselves.

And now all the smart ones moved to America already [Where many of them piss off the Chinese, Mexicans and all the other Indians by stealing criminal-alien jobs] those left up there are also all gunna be up one another.
35 posted on 06/21/2003 8:19:05 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
How many said, "I want the government to get involved in this issue."
36 posted on 06/21/2003 8:42:45 AM PDT by carmody
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To: AveMaria
Overheard at RNC headquarters; “Yes, we must take a stand. Yes indeed we must! But first, we must do a statistical analysis of the anticipated reaction to our stated beliefs.”

?;^)
37 posted on 06/21/2003 8:48:27 AM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Ahban; AveMaria
"The polls on homosexuality are running against us right now, due to a multi-billon dollar effort by the media to normalize perversion, but we are winning the hearts and minds struggle on abortion."

You're right that we're winning on abortion, but you're assessment of the homosexual situation is not completely accurate. The Quinnipiac University poll in my editoral here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929103/posts shows that, nationally, a surprising percentage (58%-31%) still oppose homosexual behaviour on moral grounds, and 38% nationally still favor keeping homosexual acts between consenting adults illegal. What's even more interesting is the regional breakdown: The predominantly amoral Northeast is evenly split on morality and overwhelmingly wants homosexuality legal, but, in the Midwest and South, where elections are really decided these days, voters are FAR more conservative on the issues. Even 60% and above regard it as immoral, a narrow plurality of Midwesterners want such acts illegal and only by a margin of 46%-42% to the critically important southerners want it legal. If this is the way they feel about consensual homosexual sin, then it's hard to imagine them viewing gay marriage very favorably.

Clearly, Americans don't view the opposition to homosexuality the same way they view racism.
38 posted on 06/21/2003 9:09:24 AM PDT by No Dems 2004
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To: Saundra Duffy
"The Republicans will never take a stand on anything. They lack the guts."

Partly due to the strange concept that "If you are not with my views on every single issue I espouse, then you are not fit for the party!"

Dems are quite content to accept single issue people (most people have only one "burning" issue in their folio) and create a party from a bunch of disparate factions.

My sis-in-law is conservative all the way down the line except for her mis-guided belief that abortion is a constitutional right?!? Hence, she votes democrat because she feels the main stream repubbie hates her!

39 posted on 06/21/2003 9:18:53 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
You're so desperate to attack me you completely lose sight of the fact that I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LIBERTARIANS. As usual, usual ass, you miss the point. It's not that LIBERTARIAN voters will desert--they already have, you blind moron! It's that centrist, moderate, swing voters, who are wishy-washy on abortion and iffy on school prayer, will be less likely to support a socially conservative Republican party, since the Rat media has painted that camp as intolerant and will almost certainly play up that end of the party if it tries to assert its dominion over the party outside the smoky backroom. As this election may be the most important in a few decades, and the court will almost certainly need an appointment in the next 4 years, and quite possibly two or three, it would be a smart move politically for the social conservatives in the party to focus on the Senate elections, considering that Bush will certainly appoint their judges, if only he gets a Senate to confirm them--and gets his own hiney reelected.

If you want to talk about the Daschle election in SD again, find a thread that deals with it and someone else to 'debate' you. I'm through dealing with your puerile comments.
40 posted on 06/21/2003 9:45:56 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (this tag line was seized by the T.S.A.--it had a point)
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To: Ahban
The Republican base has been pushed as far and fast as it is willing to go.

Considering that you are a member of the Constitution Party, you have no credibility when it comes to speaking for the "Republican base."

The vast, vast majority of the Republican party views homosexuality as wrong, but also believes everyone is entitled to lead their lives as they see fit.

The Republican party wisely concentrates on fiscal and defense issues.

These divisive social issues are a sure ticket to electoral obscurity. Just ask anyone in the Constitution Party.

Trace

41 posted on 06/21/2003 12:17:27 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: only1percent
It should be clear that the practical option for those who feel that homosexuality is a choice, and a bad one at that, is for them to live an exemplary heterosexual life (happy spouse, lots of happy kids, etc.), and hope that homosexuals leading their lives in a less-exemplary fasion will cause people to determine not to make that choice.

Concur 100%. Unfortunately, this is far too sensible to be accepted by the rabidly anti-gay element that resides here on FR.

Trace

42 posted on 06/21/2003 12:20:24 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Loose_Cannon1
Recent polls show Americans overwhelmingly support abortion choice. You can rail all you want against it, but you're not going to change the American public's view. They also support more acceptence of homosexuals.

Actually, peoples' views of abortion is getting more pro-life, and there are even more stay-at-home moms! I don't know where you're getting your info. As far as "acceptance" of homosexualism, the kids are getting indoctrinated (per plan) but state after state is passing "defense of marriage" bills, so you're wrong there too.

The more you attempt to try to change it, the more resistence you'll receieve, and the more you'll appear to be the caricature that the leftist DIMocraps paint you to be.

In other words, Republicans should just accept the amorality/immorality path of the leftists-Democrats in order to get votes!

(Another way of saying "It's inevitable [social Darwinism] so might as well lie back and enjoy it")

43 posted on 06/21/2003 5:37:21 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
I read the surveys that talked about the increase of "stay-at-home" moms also, and the polls about the increasing pro-life feelings. Those are both good things.

I don't know about "indroctination" though ... I think more people are just thinking that homosexuality isn't such a big issue anymore as many more people are actually acquainted with (or related to) open homosexuals who generally live otherwise quiet and normal lives and don't represent the "monstrous predator" or "dress wearing activist" image that they were used to in years past.

44 posted on 06/21/2003 6:14:22 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: Camber-G
Kids are easily influenced by what teachers tell them in school (such as Heather Has Two Mommies, or, for instance, since 2001 in CA there is mandatory homosexual-positive cirriculum in K-12, special mandatory auditorium presentations such as has happened in OR, etc) as well as a frontal attack on TV and movies with "gay-positive" shows and movies. Even Disney has had homo-promo in animated kiddie movies. I've seen it myself - for instance, in "Mulan" (saw it as a captive audience in a train) there are guys in drag, a masculinzed woman who rejects the marriage proposal of the hero, and other junk as well.

In the Eureka, CA newspaper a while ago I read a letter to the editor - a young teenage girl was upset because at the homo-promo class, the teacher (a special one brought in by Planned Parenthood) asked the kids if anyone thought homosexuality was wrong. She rasied her hand, and was then put in the middle of the circle of everyone else, and taunted.
A couple of years ago in Springfield, OR I read another letter to the editor from another teenage girl who had been forced to go to a presentation in the auditorium of transvestites and other "sexual alternatives" telling their tales. There is so much more. Believe me, the kids are being indoctrinated, and this is a planned effort.
45 posted on 06/21/2003 7:31:22 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Trace21230
Sorry Trace, considering I was Vice Chairman of my Republican County Committee and STATE Vice Chairman of the Young Republicans less than 5 years ago, I'd say I have a lot more credibility describing the Republican base than you do.

Just what's on your resume to justify telling me what the Republican base believes?
46 posted on 06/21/2003 10:01:42 PM PDT by Ahban
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