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The Subversion of Education in America
anxietycenter.com ^ | 2001 | Alan Caruba.

Posted on 06/22/2003 12:20:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch

The Subversion of Education in America: Lesson #1,2,3,4
By Alan Caruba

I’ll bet you think that the problems with our nation’s schools are a fairly recent phenomenon. Wrong. It dates backs to the 1960’s. Those that have implemented the subversion of our educational system have sought to fly well below the radar of public awareness, depending on stealth and duplicity to achieve the wreckage that has already stunted the lives of thousands who have passed through it.

In this and three other commentaries, I will walk you through the history of the problem with the help of an extraordinary book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt. The facts I will share with you are found in a fat compendium of research by this former senior official with the US Department of Education who discovered the mother lode, copied it, and fled. She is one of America’s unsung heroes.

As Iserbyt points out, in the 1960’s "American education would henceforth concern itself with the importance of the group rather than with the importance of the individual." The purpose of education would shift to focus on the student’s emotional health, rather than academic learning. Remember the 1960’s? Sex, drugs and rock’n roll? Drop out, tune in, and turn on? Just about everything that is wrong with America today had its genesis in this pathetic decade of youthful self-indulgence."

In 1965, there were two major federal initiatives developed with funding from The Elementary and Secondary Education Act passed that year. One was the 1965-1969 Behavioral Science Teacher Education Program and the other was the publication by the government of "Pacesetters in Innovation", a 584-page catalogue of behavior modification programs to be used by the schools.

Let me repeat that: a catalogue of behavior modification programs! We’re not talking of programs to teach students anything. We are talking about programs to indoctrinate children passing through the system to believe in values contrary to those on which this nation was based.

In brief, the intention was to create a generation or two of Americans who would accept the United Nations, not the United States, as their new "nation", a global nation, one-world government. The last thing the conspirators wanted was a nation of individuals who could or would actually think for themselves. This is how we ended up with Bill Clinton, the classic student achiever of the 1960’s.

Iserbyt writes that, "In 1960, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization’s Convention Against Discrimination was signed in Paris. This convention laid the groundwork for control of American education—both public and private—by UN agencies and agents."

Now connect the dots. In 1960, "Soviet Education Programs: Foundations, Curriculums, Teacher Preparation" was published under the auspices of the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare. It was the blueprint for the US school-to-work restructuring that would take place and it would rely on the "Pavlovian conditioned reflex theory." The mastermind of mind control and conditioning was a psychologist, Dr. B.F. Skinner who was the guru of the mess that passes for education in America today.

Though hard to believe even now, the US adopted the Soviet Communist approach to education. In 1961, Rep. John M. Ashbrook tried to alert Congress to what was happening. Citing a document published by the Department of Health, Education and Welfare called "A Federal Education Agency for the Future, " he called the new education programs "a blueprint for complete domination and direction of our schools from Washington. Guess what? He was right.

That is why the educational reform this nation really needs is the complete elimination of the US Department of Education. It won’t happen. For the same reason we are now only learning that those "Red baiters" of the 1950’s were right to assert the Department of State was shot through with Communists, no one in 2001 is going to believe that the US Department of Education is modeled on Communist theories.

The Subversion of Education in America: Lesson #2
By Alan Caruba

Just how did education in America turn from being a system that imparts knowledge to one that uses behavior modification techniques to influence the attitudes and beliefs of those passing through it?

To achieve this, beginning in the 1960’s, the perpetrators of the subversion have employed deception to achieve their goals. Earlier this month, a New Jersey daily newspaper ran an editorial, "Let board members speak", noting that members of a local school board had been restricted from speaking to the press to avoid "confusion" about the board’s programs and objectives. "But this isn’t about ‘confusion’," said the editorial. "It’s about control", adding "And it is insulting to the public and the idea of open local government."

There is nothing "open" about the effort to subvert education in America. It only has that appearance because it takes place at presumably local school boards or in a state education department. Always, the vehicle is a governmental agency. The controlling player, however, is the US Department of Education.

The objective of those who control our educational systems has long been to produce poorly educated, little world citizens, ready to forego the liberties guaranteed by the oldest living Constitution. The system introduced into American schools mirrors the Soviet and Communist Chinese systems that produce a compliant and complacent population.

To achieve this, they have had to dumb-down the students passing through the system. On February 17, 2001, the Los Angeles Times reported that the president of the University of California "wants to eliminate the SAT as a requirement for admission to all eight of the university’s undergraduate campuses." What a great way to further dilute all standards for academic achievement!

In January 2001, the Times reported that the University of California kicked out 2,009 students, six percent of last year’s freshman class, for failing to master basic math and English skills in their first year of classes. These are skills that should have been mastered in their first twelve years in California schools! It means that the diplomas they received are worthless pieces of paper.

This pattern repeats itself from state to state because it is the educational system that is failing American students. The President’s emphasis on testing misses the point entirely!

In the January/February 2001 issue of The American Enterprise, devoted to why some few schools succeed while the majority fail, Karl Zinsmeister writes that "it’s extremely interesting how many common traits are shared by the successful schools we profile. A remarkably similar basic formula applies in almost all of these places: high demands on students, strict discipline, a strong and unapologetic moral component, including a respect for religion, an emphasis on teaching intellectual basics, a preference for time-tested books and curricula, clear standards of dress, grooming, and comportment, and an insistence on politeness, respect and courtesy."

Compare that to schools in your area where the way students dress is an offense to decorum, the language they use is replete with profanities, and their chief complaint is that they have too much homework.

President Bush has bought into the Education Establishment’s systematic stupification of students. He is not the first President to fall prey to this effort. To learn the facts, you must read The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt.

The President has proposed a five billion-dollar program to help children learn to read. Please! Please, please, will someone explain to me why spending even more money will answer the question of why our schools, soaking up billions a year, are NOT teaching this already?

One need only look at the realities of education in Texas to see why the call for national testing standards is a deception. An excellent article by Jerry Jesness in the November 2000 issue of Reason magazine blows away the hype about the test scores of Texas students. Despite apparent improvements, a closer look at the test scores of basic skills places young Texans in 39th place for SAT scores.

In 1984, the State adopted the Texas Educational Assessment of Minimal Skills that established minimal standards for graduation. The result has been that a considerable amount of time is spent "teaching to the test" in schools throughout Texas. Students are taught strategies to pass the text. For example, the acquisition of real arithmetical skills is sacrificed to methods that include drawing and counting sticks! This is not progress and the test is, essentially, meaningless.

All this was foretold back in the 1970’s as the "educrats" continued their efforts to undermine the teaching of basic knowledge. In 1976, Catherine Barrett, then president of the National Education Association, gave a speech in which she said, "First, we will help all of our people understand that school is a concept and not a place. We will not confuse "schooling" with education. The school will be the community, the community the school." This predates Hillary Clinton’s "it takes a village" concept, but it reflects a communist view that all of society must be employed to form the views of students. Individualism is bad. Conforming to the group is good.

Barrett went on to say "We will need to recognize that so-called ‘basic skills’ which currently represent nearly the total effort in elementary schools, will be taught in one quarter of the present school day. The remaining time will be devoted to what is truly fundamental and basic---time for academic inquiry, time for students to develop their own interests, time for a dialogue between students and teachers…more than a dispenser of information, the teacher will be a conveyor of values, a philosopher. Students will learn to write love letters and lab notes."

You may want to read this again. The then-head of the NEA was talking about turning the school day into one devoted to just about everything other than the teaching of reading, writing and arithmetic. Teachers were, instead, to become "agents of change."

The change incorporated into today’s educational programs is intended to change the entire social structure of our society and the values that had made it great. Competition and achievement in the acquisition of basic knowledge and the skills to implement that knowledge are jettisoned in favor of changing attitudes about family, patriotism, religion, and sexuality. Look around you and ask yourself why we now except all forms of "families." Look around you and ask why we live in a cultural environment drenched with sexuality without responsibility. Ask yourself why millions fail to vote. Look at the way the expression of religious values is continually derided.

In 1972, Dr. Chester M. Pierce, MD, of Harvard University wrote an article entitled "Becoming Planetary Citizens: A Quest for Meaning" that appeared in the November issue of Childhood Education. He was concerned that children, by the age of five, "already have a lot of political attitudes", among which were "a tenacious loyalty to his country and its leader." What he wanted was a child who entered kindergarten "with the same kind of loyalty to the earth as to his homeland…"

This is a formula for degrading patriotism and loyalty to everything for which this nation stands in favor of creating citizens of the "global government" being pursued by the United Nations and the environmentalism that preaches against the use of the earth’s natural resources.

All throughout the 1970’s, the Federal government funded these goals. Local educational systems were taken over by programs designed to destroy local control. I do not want President Bush’s education proposals to succeed because they reflect the continued subversion of our nation’s schools by the Department of Education.

The process dates back to the 1960’s, continued through the 1970’s, and in the following discussion of education in America, we will see how they increased through the 1980’s.

The Subversion of Education in America: Lesson #3
By Alan Caruba

This will come as a surprise to you—everything about the nation’s educational system does—but Congress back in 1970 recognized that the federal government is supposed to have limited authority when it comes to education. An amended General Education Provisions Act specifically articulated a "Prohibition against Federal Control of Education.

It forbids the federal government from exercising any "direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration or personnel of any education institution, school, or school system, or over the selection of library resources, textbooks, or other printed or published instructional materials by any educational institution or school system."

The loophole through which the subversion of our education system was accomplished was federal funding of "research" and "development."

By the 1980’s (see the previous two editions of Warning Signs for a look at the 1960’s and 1970’s by clicking on the Archives below) the effort to turn schools from places where students actually learn something to places where their values, beliefs, and cognitive skills were determined by "Outcome Based Education", behavior modification programs. The objective of these programs is to turn students in to little citizens of a one-world government where they are mere economic units, not individuals, nor people who give much thought to individual liberty.

Individual liberty was the reason the American Revolution was fought and is the philosophical basis for every word in the US Constitution. A generation or two of Americans who are systematically robbed of any knowledge of this are ripe for an authoritarian takeover.

The father of this movement is Prof. Benjamin Bloom and his book, "All Our Children learning." Published in 1981, it is the bible of OBE. In it he says, "The purpose of education and the schools is to change the thoughts, feelings, and actions of students." No, the purpose of education is to provide students with a sufficient knowledge of basic skills in writing, reading, arithmetic, as well as history and the sciences. Thus prepared, they are likely to be the kind of citizens that will question efforts to deprive this nation of its sovereignty in favor of a world government run out of the United Nations.

It gets worse. Writing in The Effective School Report, Dr. Thomas A. Kelly, Ph.D., stated that "The brain should be used for processing, not storage." This is the view of education that says you prepare students to take a test determined by federal standards of what they should know. The student is merely to process predetermined bits and pieces of information. The best example of this is the rat’s maze where the rat learns to follow a specific path to get a piece of cheese.

This is a simplified explanation of why today’s children have difficulty acquiring and retaining a body of useful, long-term information such as multiplication tables or who the nation’s presidents have been, the 50 States of the Union, when the Civil War was fought, where India can be found on a map, the names of the earth’s oceans, et cetera!

The whole movement to utterly change the direction and purpose of our nation’s schools picked up momentum in the 1980’s and, sorry to say it, it occurred on Ronald Reagan’s watch. The harsh truth about the subversion of the nation’s schools has not been a Democratic or Republican program. It has occurred no matter who was in office or who controlled Congress. It happened because few politicians were paying any attention to what was really occurring over at the Department of Education.

In her book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America", Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt, says, "The real purpose of this project was to propose a radical redesign of the nation’s education system from one based on inputs to one based on outputs." It switched, in other words, from a curriculum of content a student was required to learn, to a series of answers the student was supposed to repeat when tested. Or as Iserbyt explains it, the system turned away "from one oriented toward the learning of academic content to one based on performance of selected skills, necessary for the implementation of school-to-work…" The schools, with direction from the DOE and grants from major foundations, as well as input from corporate leaders, were redesigned to produce workers.

Well, what’s so bad about that? We need workers. Ask anyone responsible for the management of any size organization, from a local bakery to a major corporation, what their primary problem is and they will tell you it’s finding good workers. That is to say, finding people with even the most basic education or skills to perform any job with a minimum of competency. That is the result of the education system that has been foisted on this nation.

Take away their pocket calculators and the newest generation of workers cannot add or subtract. Take away "spell check" on their computers and they are helpless to spell accurately. These are basic skills Americans used to learn in one-room schoolhouses heated with a wood-burning oven. They could also tell you the branches of the US government and a whole lot more than today’s graduates.

In the 1980’s the DOE says Iserbyt, "effectively transformed the essential character of the nation’s public schools from ‘teaching’---the most traditional and conservative role of schools---to ‘workforce training’---perceived as liberal and ‘progressive.’" It is a particular irony that one of Ronald Reagan’s campaign platforms was the abolishing of the Department of Education. He was right. He didn’t do it.

What, in fact, happened was that control of the schools and their curriculums increasing moved up the decision-making ladder away from local school boards and even state education departments. Administrators and teachers were delighted with this because it eliminated the "meddling" of locally elected and locally responsible school board members.

The instrument for this was the development of a "Course Goals Collection" completed by the DOE in 1980-81. "The collection consists of fourteen volumes with 15,000 goals covering every major subject taught in the public schools from K-12." Remember that 1970 prohibition on any federal government involvement in instruction? Nobody else did either.

In 1981, 70,000 copies were distributed, despite the fact that only approximately 16,000 school districts existed. And you wonder why every state now has the same goals? With remarkable success, Outcome-Based Education became the way American students were to be trained to believe the same things, have the same values, and to ignore those they were taught at home.

This is important because values are supposed to be the job of parents. Some parents are Catholic. Some parents are Protestant. Some are Jewish or Moslem. Some are liberal and some are conservative. Their values no longer seem to matter. That’s why there no longer is a moment of prayer in any school in America. That’s why the school day often does not begin with the salute to the flag or a recitation of a pledge of allegiance. Much of the day is spent "teaching to the test" whose standards were determined in Washington, D.C., not by the parents, not by the local school board, not by anyone you know!

How was this achieved? Because, according to a 1981 report by the Office of Educational Research and Improvement, "Federal funds account for approximately ten percent of national expenditures on education. The Federal share of educational research and related activities, however, is ninety percent of the total national investment."

Thus, as Iserbyt notes in her book, "just about everything that goes on in the classrooms of American public schools, with the exception of salaries, school buildings, buses, and the purchase of equipment, is either a direct or indirect result of funding by the U.S. Department of Education—as research!"

It should come as no surprise that, by the end of the 1980’s, writing in the January 25, 1989 issue of Education Week, Chester E. Finn, Jr., the former head of the DOE’s research branch, would tell business leaders that he favored a "national curriculum." Flashback to the congressional prohibition on a curriculum determined at the federal level. Consider it null and void. The people in the DOE obviously did.

Little wonder, too, that in 1989, then-President George H. Bush unveiled "America 2000" (now known as "Goals 2000") to the National Governor’s Association that virtually set in concrete the whole behavior modification movement that has been foisted on the American education system.

That same year, the Association for Supervision and Curriculum Development’s Elementary Global Education Framework was announced. Its goals were to create "Human beings whose home is planet earth, who are citizens of a multicultural democratic society in an increasingly interconnected world, and who learn, care, think, choose, and act, to celebrate life on this planet, and to meet the global challenges confronting Humankind."

NO! We are talking about AMERICAN students going to AMERICAN schools in the sovereign nation of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We are not sending kids to school to become citizens of the world, programmed to deal with global challenges, i.e., threats to the environment that require we all cut back on the use of energy or pick up the bill to bring developing nations up to speed. That is exactly the game plan of the United Nations and the worldwide conspiracy of socialists masquerading as environmentalists.

That is, however, what is going on in our schools TODAY. That’s why President George W. Bush’s proposal to throw $5 billion at those schools, presumably to teach a subject, reading, they should already be teaching, is a continuation of the same bad ideas that president’s since Eisenhower have been rubber-stamping. And then ignoring.

The Subversion of Education in America: Lesson #4
By Alan Caruba

I have lived my whole life in an affluent, suburban community in Northern New Jersey. When I attended its schools in the 1940’s and 1950s, the vast percentage of graduating seniors went onto college. Their parents had migrated from Newark during or just after WWII because the schools had an excellent reputation. Today, they are not much better than those of the inner city.

Here’s an excerpt from a letter to the editor in our local weekly. "I understand that our education officials have yet to detail for the public exactly what measures have been taken to ensure that a first-rate education will be provided for students." This stonewalling is endemic to education bureaucrats across the nation. He thinks he’s going to get an answer. He won’t.

"I was horrified to learn that 34 percent of the eighth grade students in (our) Middle School were found only partially proficient—the worst grouping—in the 2000 GEPA math section. Simply put, we rank 97th out of 97 schools in this failing category. Further, this dreadful performance has been repeated over the past several years.

"As a homeowner and a taxpayer, I want to know how the district’s school budget increased from $5l million five years ago to $70 million today, a 37 percent increase over four years, during which time these poor test scores have not gotten measurably better and our last place ranking has not moved out of the cellar."

Throwing more and more money at our nation’s current education system is not the answer. The system is inherently flawed because it is not intended to provide a basic 3R’s education.

President Bush proposes to introduce a national educational standard and then test to it, but we already know American students are deficient in all the areas of knowledge the schools are supposed to be teaching. The tests today’s students take are more about their values than about any body of knowledge they have acquired. Today’s schools are not about educating students. They are about teaching attitudes and values.

If you have been reading my series over the past three commentaries in this series, you already know that the system has been designed to deliberately dumb down students.

The architects of this attack on our nation’s youth can be found in the US Department of Education. They have adopted psychological methods of conditioning and jettisoned the teaching of information and basic skills. It is called "Outcome-Based Education."

Today’s students, as opposed to their grandfather’s or even their father’s education, are being systematically conditioned to think in "global" terms about humanity, nations, religions, and, of course, the environment. They are conditioned to be citizens, not of the United States, but of the world. That’s what you need when you’re creating a socialist one-world governmental system and that is exactly what is occurring at the United Nations.

Today’s students are taught not to make value judgments about other nations, even if they are authoritarian dictatorships. They may not know where Brazil is on the map, but they "know" all the rain forests are disappearing. They don’t know when the Civil War took place or why, but they "know" that all the Founding Fathers were slave-owners. They also "know" that America’s history is one of destroying the native Indian nations, taking their land, and exploiting it with farms, mining, and the destruction of whole forests. They cannot tell you what the Bill of Rights is, but they "know" the US is the leading contributor of "greenhouse gases" to the atmosphere, thereby causing global warming. It is a full course of lies.

They haven’t a clue about the individualism, sacrifice, daring and innovation that made this nation great, nor its political system, and most certainly not its history.

As Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt writes in her book, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, they aren’t being "taught the difference between free enterprise and planned economies, i.e., socialism; between ‘group thinking’ and individual freedom and responsibility."

By the 1990’s the decades of effort to overturn an education system that taught specific bodies of information and the skills to use them—arithmetic, spelling, history, civics, science—had effectively been transformed into today’s touchy-feely system. It is a place where a student’s feelings of self-esteem are more important than whether they actually know anything other than the specific answers to the test. Thus teachers now "teach to the test" (their paycheck depends on it) rather than provide a broader body of knowledge. It is a place where competition is discouraged as unfair to those less qualified for any reason. It is a place where socialist attitudes and values are the priority, not knowledge.

Given President George W. Bush’s enthusiasm for education that is "accountable" and "will leave no child behind", will it surprise anyone that the "America 2000 Plan", written in 1991, was presented to the American people by Lamar Alexander, the Secretary of Education serving his father, President George Herbert Walker Bush?

The "America 2000 Plan" proposed to radically restructure American society, beginning with its schools. It was intended to affect 110,00 public and private schools. When you’re trying to create good little socialists, you can’t afford to have anyone who is being taught to think independently or asked to incorporate moral and ethical values.

The "voucher" program exists to give the federal government control over private schools because, whoever pays the piper, chooses the tune. Schools that accept voucher students will soon find themselves required to accept federal education regulations as well.

Goals 2000 and School-to-Work programs introduced to transform our schools reflect what Iserbyt describes as "the internationalization of education with exchanges of data systems, curricula, methods, et cetera, all essential for the implementation of the international socialist management and control system being put in place right now."

Everything, including the SAT college entrance tests, has been degraded to mask the dumbing down those who are passing through our schools. Today’s SATs permit students to use electronic calculators, ask fewer questions in general and fewer multiple-choice math questions in particular. Reading passages now ask definitions from context and the formerly difficult antonym section, calling for linguistic and intellectual subtleties, has been dropped entirely.

My hometown’s parent who could not get any answers from his district’s school board could not know that this is repeated across America in school after school. Parents are routinely lied to. Worse, today’s parents are often required to put their child put on a regimen of Ritalin, a mind-altering drug. We’ve got seven million government-approved drug addicts going to school in drug-free zones!

To the individual parent, there seems to be no way to resist the juggernaut of a system that routinely turns out thousands of "educated" morons. Some choose to home-school their children. Others who can afford it send them to private schools. Still others shell out for after-school tutoring services. Why? Because the schools have been "restructured."

President Bush is not providing a solution. He is part of the problem. His father was part of the problem. Presidents going back to Eisenhower have been part of the problem because they failed to see that introducing Soviet-style educational methods—behavior modification to produce good little socialists--into American schools was destined to bring us to this point.

Education is not about national standards and national testing. It’s about individual schools in individual school districts, all answerable to their communities and to the parents of the children entrusted to them. It’s not about how the child feels, but about how well the child learns. There is pride in learning, but if there are no grades, how does anyone, parent, child or teacher know what, if anything, is being learned?

Congress will probably give President Bush the $5 billion he wants to throw away on failed reading programs, and money for the national educational standards and testing he wants. Previous Congresses have gone along, failing or refusing to see how the educational system has been corrupted. The Republican "Contract with America" and the campaign promise of Ronald Reagan to dismantle the Department of Education had it right. It didn’t happen. It is the only hope to reverse the damage and return schools to local control.

Sit down with your child and watch "Jeopardy" together. If neither you, nor your child knows the answer to anything other than the television or film questions, you’re in trouble. Now multiply that against an entire population of Americans who don’t know the answers either.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: education
Do you see our education system getting better or worse? Any solutions?
1 posted on 06/22/2003 12:20:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
I am a graduate of a public high school in one of the poorest counties in the southeast, class of '62. Most young people I know are absolutely in awe of me because I can do such things as compute the volume in cubic feet or yards of a cube 10 feet square and 10 feet tall in my head without using a calculator. That should give you some indication of the status of education today.
My father had an eighth grade education and one of his first jobs was to measure land for the county. Most college graduates I know today don't have the foggiest notion of how to measure an acre.
2 posted on 06/22/2003 12:32:35 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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To: B4Ranch
My gosh the system is getting worse every day.

One place my school district is getting curriculum materials is

http://www.rethinkingschools.org/

the people who run this site are unabashed marxists, the person "credited" with bringing the curriculum to Starlight School, Pajaro Valley Unified School District, Watsonville CA is an unabashed marxist and is part of the teacher school up at UC Santa Cruz, which is turning our marxist teachers at a terrifying rate.

Check out this article from their latest newsletter:
Student Clubs: A Model for Political Organizing
3 posted on 06/22/2003 12:33:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: B4Ranch
"Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction."
 
Some selections from "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler:
 
"The German people have no idea of the extent to which they have to be gulled in order to be led."
 
"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one."
 
"All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it."
 
"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."
"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear."
 
"The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category. "
 
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
 
"Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction."
 
When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already...What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

"The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force."

 
"What luck for rulers, that men do not think."

4 posted on 06/22/2003 12:37:50 PM PDT by Radix
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To: B4Ranch
worse.

no solution.

unless:

1. parents instill values and self-discipline in their children.

2. the labor unions are kicked out of education.

5 posted on 06/22/2003 12:37:55 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is real democracy. /s)
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To: RipSawyer
My grandmother had a 5th grade education and could add columns of numbers in her head and be correct everytime. It was truly impressive when we were the checkout line at any merchant.
6 posted on 06/22/2003 12:38:22 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: B4Ranch
Worse. No solutions.

Why? Because no politican will discuss what is being taught and how it is being taught. They will only discuss how much money they're going to take from you and me to finance whatever it is that they think education is about.

This is analogous to debating about the number of seats that a new porn theater is going to have.

Withdraw your kids. Until the terms of debate and subject of debate change with respect to education, there is really nothing to discuss.
7 posted on 06/22/2003 12:40:18 PM PDT by Noumenon (Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Some parents are starting their own schools based on a classical curriculum rather than the progressive curriculum many schools use today.

http://www.novaclassical.org/curriculum.htm

The middle school in my town is considered progressive. Several years ago, I dropped in to vote, and I found "one world" posters plastered all over the walls.

8 posted on 06/22/2003 12:45:11 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: liberalnot
the labor unions are kicked out of education.

The unions care only for the unions and nothing for the children. The parents in our district have been told that time and again.

One solution is that parents become involved with the schools and inform themselves about what is being taught. BUT most parents COULD CARE LESS. They might want their child to get good grades, but in our district, our high school which has a track record for no paper or soap in the bathrooms, filthy bathrooms that kids refuse to enter and overflowing septic tank because the school is overcrowded, these same parents leave their kids where the bathrooms are unusable, all day long. I think this is the height of cruelty because none of these parents would work at a job where there were no usable bathroom facilities, but they drop their kids off every morning without a thought about how unhealthy the situation is for their child.

The teachers admit this is a problem, but to save money they are cutting the custodial staff, because the union won't allow any of their members to be laid off.
9 posted on 06/22/2003 12:48:56 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: annyokie
My grandmother came over from Italy as a child at the turn of the last century, was taught by nuns and spoke beautiful, grammatically correct English.

There were no bilingual or ESL classes back then.

Those nuns had a mission.
10 posted on 06/22/2003 12:51:07 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: ladylib
Model UN Appreciation Dinner Santa Cruz County UNA/USA Banquet for five Model UN groups, including Aptos High, Santa Cruz High, MT Madonna High and Seaside High. Watsonville High team earned top honors at the National High School Model UN conference beating more than 200 schools to earn the "Award of Distinction" bestowed by judges to a select few. It is the highest honor a team can win.

Welcome to the Santa Cruz UNA-USA Web Site
11 posted on 06/22/2003 12:54:56 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: B4Ranch
Education SITREP
12 posted on 06/22/2003 12:57:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: ladylib
"There were no bilingual or ESL classes back then."

When I took foreign language classes in college they were all immersion method. The whole class was taught in German, French or Spanish. You learned fast.

My grandmother attended rural one-room schools in Oklahoma. My grandfather on the other side of my family, didn't learn English until he was 17 (they were from Germany) and while he made some laughable grammatical and pronunciation mistakes, you could always understand him and he didn't have Kissinger's accent, either.
13 posted on 06/22/2003 12:58:32 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: B4Ranch
bump for later read
14 posted on 06/22/2003 12:58:48 PM PDT by RightField (the older you get ..... the older "old" is ......)
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To: B4Ranch
Home Education Bump!
15 posted on 06/22/2003 1:39:52 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: B4Ranch
bttt
16 posted on 06/22/2003 3:13:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: liberalnot
{the labor unions are kicked out of education}

Splendid idea. Let's kick the NEA out of political campaigns as well. Anyone who thinks the NEA is a non-partisan organization must also believe the earth is flat.
17 posted on 06/22/2003 3:31:24 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: hedgetrimmer
Scary. We have high schools with UN chapters on the East Coast too.
18 posted on 06/22/2003 4:05:43 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: B4Ranch
bump
19 posted on 06/22/2003 4:46:06 PM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: hedgetrimmer
" http://www.rethinkingschools.org/"

They papered every school in my district as well. I know of a lot of teachers that raved about it and went for the info. ME? I sent the link to Gov Bush with a warning. Then I warned my fellow conservative teachers....we may be few in number, but we are great in influence. Especially since we have begun a quiet takeover of the corrupted union here! SHHHHHHH! Don't tell anybody! It will take until the FEB elections of 2004 for the conservative infiltrations to be completed. Truth be known, most of the liberals know what we're about...it's just that they're so sick and tired of the union corruption they're willing to say: "What the heck, give them a shot....they can't do any WORSE!" LOL

20 posted on 06/22/2003 5:24:06 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: B4Ranch
GREAT ARTICLE... Now, I happen to have been doing some research myself for a project on the identical subject, and I have come up with the "watershed" year as being 1968. This is the first year that one actually had a significant percentage of "counterculture" graduates from our colleges and universities. This is also the beginning of the peak of the insanity which almost burned this Republic to the ground with the rioting, looting and burning of urban centers.

I consider myself rather fortunate, as I was able to learn all this somewhat after the fact, being occupied in this Countries' employment attempting to stop the spread of Communism in SE Asia at the time. When I returned back "to the world" I found, literally, what I witnessed unbelievable.

I also firmly believe that one of the largest problems at that time was the still limited informational dissemination network, since there were, in most places, no cable, there was no Internet, no personally owned computers, and most of the public got their news from maybe 1 hour tops of TV news a day, plus whatever liberal rag they happened to purchase on their way to and from work, or have delivered. There is no real need to explain just how biased that was, yet the fact of that bias was not even suspected, as most papers and newscasters were considered respected and honored public features.

When the insanity happened, the rioting, looting, and burning, the public "circled the wagons" and let the (Demoncrat regime) take away their right to self defence (The second original sin, GCA 68, the first original sin being the NFA '32, which was preceded, predictably as it now turns out by the Peoples Republic of Noo Yawk passing the "Sullivan Act" even earlier, being probably the first group to thumb their collective noses at the Constitution). In addition, the problems on the Campuses of Colleges and Universities were interpreted wrong, based on the nostalgic thoughts of those who had been there before, as just "Kid Pranks", and not for the subversive, Communist backed, Demoncratic supported actions which they really were.

From that point on, those who would overthrow the educational system practiced exactly what everyone who had done so previously, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Hirohito, Mao, Castro, Guevara, and all the rest of the unnoticed tinpot dictators did, practice incremental restraint, and change the minds of one child at a time, until the small ripple became a tsunami.

Ladies and Gentlemen, "1984" was simply published too soon. It's here, and the NEA and it's Communist/Leftist minions are its spearhead. It has become virtually impossible to fight this debacle, because the selfsame NEA and their supporters are actively removing every word your child could learn to debate what is happening. We are considering perversion a natural act, and crime a product of an inanimate object instead of the insane action of individuals who have not been permitted to grow and mature normally. We have permitted and supported Zero Tolerance, until we have the equivalent of wild animals pacing endlessly inside cages, driven mad with boredom, until the point of insanity is passed with the usual carnage, thus generating even more attacks on personal freeedom.

I wish I had an answer, except homeschool, because I personally feel that socialzation is an important part of the maturing process, and denying children experience in dealing with their peers is not a healthy developmental mode. That being said, however, since what is out there today is not "normal" by any stretch of the imagination, homeschool becomes just about the only choice which is both morally and practically viable, at least until what passes for schools, students, and the Leftist NEA either destroy themselves, make themselves obsolete, or people finally see the light and vote the proper officials into office who will actually stand behind the reforms so often uttered, so little practiced.

If anyone has any comments, I definitely would like to hear about them, because, as I am sure most of you feel, I don't have an answer to this problem. I may have a cause, a time, and a "why", but sure not an answer..

Keep the Faith for Freedom & GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Greg

21 posted on 06/22/2003 5:30:41 PM PDT by gwmoore (As the Russian manual for the Nagant Revolver states: "Target Practice: "at the deserter, FIRE")
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To: gwmoore
homeschool becomes just about the only choice which is both morally and practically viable

Greg, thanks for the post. How about private schools, like Catholic schools or parochial schools? Do they suffer from the same (socialist, one world etc.) problem?

22 posted on 06/22/2003 7:19:48 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Yes...from what I've heard from a friend who sent her daughter to a Catholic high school.
23 posted on 06/22/2003 7:38:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (FR - the truth, and nothing but the truth.........getting to the bottom of journalistic bias.)
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To: nwrep
Worse!!! Now, although the dicipline is marginally better, Catholic schools are SERIOUSLY infected with one world propaganda. FYI I'm 56, was raised and educated Catholic, until a rather unfortunate incident in 10th grade HS involving mass quantities of alcohol, a motorcycle, and a glass door. I did however manage to redeem myself, graduate from the public schools, which fortunately, at that time, still taught real subjects and real history, stumped for Goldwater in '64, was a member of the Young Americans for Freedom, served my country in the military and finished my higher education still untainted by leftist thought ;-)

The big problem with Catholic/Parochial schools is twofold, first, the big "peace and love thing" and secondly, the ongoing coverup of widespread perversion/Pedophilia which has been routinely paid off, supressed, or just "transferred out".. What is amazing is that in all my years of school, and yes, I am still Catholic, I never actively was exposed to any perverted actions by any Priest. I was just as amazed as everyone else when the allegations began to surface, and even more amazed when I found out a Priest who I thought was a good guy and a good friend was homosexual and a pedophile (he later died of AIDS, which, while not a nice statement to make, proves there still is some justice left in this world).

I think, just possibly, there are private schools which still teach good, old conservative values, but I will be darned if I know where. The dumbing process (I believe there was a post here on FR, which is where I got the part about "removing all the words your children could use for intelligent debate" came from, where CA (where else) the use of words thought to be "offensive" had to be removed from textbooks. There have been similar posts, which as of yet I have not searched for, concerning the same practice nationwide. Given today's climate of widespread Pabulum (with a Ritalin chaser) feeding, and the quaking hordes of handwringers "despising" the "chilruns" exposure to anything useful ( they seem to believe, after all that life is all soft, rounded edges of foam rubber, with airbags, oops, airbags cant be used with kids, I forgot..eerrr child seats facing away from whatever might be offensive (to the parents) while anything perverted or sexual is not only tolerated, but promoted, I simply don't see an answer without some widespread "regime changes". This means the damn NEA, the Communists/Leftists/Demoncrats who support them, the politicians who have established the "cult of zero tolerance" to the point of unadulterated idiocy, but on the level of the "King's New Clothes" (One is not permitted to discuss the abysmal failures and screwups), and especially the apathetic parent/parent(s) optional. Mrs gwmoore happens to work for the justice system, in the District Court, where they actually have such inane waste of Judicial time as "Smoking Court" "Fighting Court", and "Zero Tolerance Court". Even more unbelievable is that often the PARENTS are punished, given several days jail time, while the damn kids are released to continue to do whatever it is they do nowadays (I prefer not to think too much on this, it can be depressing).. Incidentally, if you do have any input, I would appreciate it.

The "project" I mentioned is actually research on a book about the very same thing discussed in this article, albeit probably not as scholarly ( I am an electrical/aeronautical engineer by degree, and we tend to think on the opposite sides of our brains from academics LOL..we are actually supposed to produce things and invent innovations [evil grin]. The working title, at this point is "A Decent into Hell", and will cover the demise of intelligent, reality based education from 1962 to the present. It is a LOT of research, but since I am retired disabled, I do have the time to work on it LOL.....

To sum up, Catholic/Parochial school is better than public at this point in time, if for no other reason than discipline without too much idiocy, but like all of today's education is permeated with leftist thought/propaganda. Frankly, my own preference would be some center course, where one didn't have the "peace love, and one world, love the UN BS" but without being too straitlaced. One of the biggest problems I see happening, and the cause(MY IMHO) of what is percieved to be the rise in school violence has been the supression of the natural growing process. Kids act out all the time, and in my day, playing "cops and robbers, or "cowboys and indians" was a normal, everyday, occurrence, just as playing baseball and generally raising as much hell as one could before being severely chastised by one's parents (LOL) said chastising often causing reminders every time one sat down for several days.... I don't see a return to this anytime soon, unless something either miraculous happens, or people suddenly suffer simultaneous attacks of sanity.

I hope I helped, somewhat. The answer is extremely hard to discern, although the problem, what caused it, and even the dates isn't too hard to pin down. I would, however recommend Catholic school over Public, although you really have to stay on top of what your kid is learning, and make sure you explain reality to her/him compared to what is actually being taught, maybe even on a daily basis. I feel I became a better man for attending Parochial school than public....

Keep the Faith for Freedom & GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Greg

24 posted on 06/22/2003 8:31:30 PM PDT by gwmoore (As the Russian manual for the Nagant Revolver states: "Target Practice: "at the deserter, FIRE")
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To: B4Ranch
If we continue to tolerate the socialist, liberal garbage our schools are teaching our kids, then we will witness the downfall of the greatest nation in the history of Earth.

For a while I thought that vouchers was a viable solution to decrepit, under performing schools. But this article makes a good point that the curriculum will be controlled by the govt 'masters' if they opt to accept the vouchers.

There's not enough two parent households that can provide homeschooling, making the homeschool movement, too little too late.

At this point there is no solution other than a massive parental revolt. Yeah, I know, like that's gonna' happen.

25 posted on 06/22/2003 9:30:29 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: Bullish
There might not be a massive parental revolt, but if enough kids are fed up with "zero tolerance-zero brains" policies, unhealthy indoctrination policies in their public schools, and all the other BS, there might be some hope.
26 posted on 06/23/2003 4:24:07 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: B4Ranch
I think the majority of the problem is with the education schools:

http://www.educationnews.org/can-education-schools-be-saved.htm

27 posted on 06/23/2003 6:59:28 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: B4Ranch
For a very, very big contributing factor see Home-alone America
28 posted on 06/23/2003 7:04:50 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: gwmoore
To put your fears to rest about socialization and homeschooling, read the articles at this link: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/zysk1.html
http://www.tnhomeed.com/LRSocial.html
or the best one: http://www.hsu.edu/faculty/worthf/social.html

That should be enough. Why should children have to learn to deal with nasty, ugly, brutish behavior in an environment where they are trapped with no adult support for 7 hours a day ? Would you spend your days in a workplace like that which exists in most schools ? That-s why adults have harrassment laws - we don't put up with the garbage. We fix the problem or leave if it cannot be fixed. Kids are not allowed to "leave" and no kid should have to live it. Terrorists, no matter the age, cannot be negotiated with. Homeschool is the answer.
29 posted on 06/23/2003 7:54:11 AM PDT by cinives
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To: ladylib
One of the most effective actions that could be taken would be a coordinated grassroots effort to have 10-15% of parents remove their children from the public schools for other alternatives. A target year should be set, say 2005. This gives enough time for home schooling collectives and small private schools to be set up. The date and purpose of the action should be widely spread via the Internet, church groups and other means.
30 posted on 06/23/2003 8:08:44 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: cinives
Thanks much for the links!! I am far from being an expert at homeschooling, and didn't do it for my daughter, who fortunately, despite Mrsgwmoore's and my now obvious overlooking the obvious, managed to survive both the Catholic and Public indoctrination centers, get a higher education, and still remain rooted in conservative values ( She posts, incidentally, as FReeper trinity1 ;-) so the line continues!!

I seriously appreciate this good info on socialization, because that was one of the major reasons we didn't homeschool, and was obviously based on poor intel on the part of both of us.... however, we did manage to luck out with the result. I am going to print the articles out forall of us to read and gain a great educational opportunity!! Again, thanks much for your providing me with these great links.

Keep the Faith for Freedom & GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Greg

31 posted on 06/23/2003 8:37:23 AM PDT by gwmoore (As the Russian manual for the Nagant Revolver states: "Target Practice: "at the deserter, FIRE"I)
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To: B4Ranch
everyone should read this article BUMP!!!!
32 posted on 06/23/2003 12:58:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: B4Ranch
The public school system is doing its job - preparing young Americans for a socialist future.
33 posted on 06/23/2003 1:28:47 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: gwmoore
You're welcome, anytime you need some add'l info on homeschooling I probably have some references. And to those doubters who say there aren't enough two-parent families to pull their kids out of school, let me say this. I am a single working parent with a no-show non-support paying ex who manages to homeschool one kid and work and support both without assistance. Every one can homeschool and succeed if they look at the opportunities. Anyone with a reasonable kid can find a myriad of ways to keep the kid safe and learning all the time, whether it's school-type book work or hands-on involvement in an activity. Homeschooling is a lifestyle, not a job.

Cindi
34 posted on 06/23/2003 5:42:29 PM PDT by cinives
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