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Hagel: Iraqi WMD Clouds Bush Credibility
Associated Press ^
| June 22, 2003
| Jennifer C. Kerr
Posted on 06/22/2003 2:50:51 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: beckett
Hagel may be motivated by jealousy, as you say, or he may have a sort of maverick or knight on a white horse complex -- a windmill tilter.I'm betting a little bit on bitterness. Hagel was one of the top choices for the Vice President slot under Bush. In fact he even bought some of the domain names for a Bush/Hagel ticket. Rove liked him and wanted him, since Hagel had 3 solids, he was conservative, a vietnam veteran, and known for being very independent, but never the less solid. Dick Cheney even interviewed him (Cheney was head of the committee to pick the VP for Bush, him and his committee's conclusion was that he was the best guy).
Hagel was mad, Rove fought against Cheney being named tooth and nail, lost that battle and moved on. Hagel probably still holds a grudge over it.
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posted on
06/22/2003 3:59:03 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: Sonny M
I didn't know Hagel was one of those who made a pilgrimage to the Crawford. Interesting.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:01:17 PM PDT
by
beckett
To: sinkspur
You know what I think it is? They are jealous as hell of Bush. Hegel's been slugging around in local and Senate politics for years.More likely Hagel is still a little teed from 2000. He was one of the front runners for the VP slot on the ticket, Rove loved him, and every liked what he could bring to the table as a solid ACU conservative who is a fomer vietnam veteran and has a reputation for being independent.
Cheney instead became the VP choice, Hagel was ticked that the guy who interviewed him, chose himself, and was mad that Bush ignored Rove and chose Cheney anyway. He probably still holds a grudge, its worth noting that he even bought some domain names for a Bush and Hagel ticket.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:02:16 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: AntiGuv
I have long watched Hagel, and I suspect he might have an allegiance to a foreign power. I don't think it's France, but it could be the Russia. He just has something a little off about him.
To: beckett
Check this link out.
http://www.theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html
I remember him being a front runner for the job, I kind of liked him as a pick, after what he did with the kyoto treaty. He came back from the summit before, I think Gore or clinton, whichever one went, he came back first and declared it dead if it goes to the senate and swore it would never be ratified.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:08:57 PM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: beckett
Hagel's problem is that he believes his press clipppings.He's an airhead, but wins Strange New Respect awards for dissing Republicans, which is heady stuff for one so vain as he.Lugar is cut from the same cloth as well, and has ridden his opposition to Ferdinnad Marcos for all he's worth.
To: Sonny M
Well at least he has his head screwed on right about Kyoto, so I guess we should give him credit where it's due.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:16:36 PM PDT
by
beckett
To: faithincowboys
That is the most idiotic statement I've ever read. Hegel's a veteran with an 84% lifetime conservative ranking by the American Conservative Union. That's more than our monkey boy president can say.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:28:24 PM PDT
by
ValenB4
(Absence makes the fond grow harder.)
To: ValenB4
Being a conservative doesn't count for much around here anymore. It's all hard line party politics and single narrow minded thinking.
Richard W.
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posted on
06/22/2003 4:42:27 PM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: AntiGuv
I would bet there were and are WMD.
To: ValenB4
The only ones who make such an assinine comparison to monkeys about President Bush are the stupid Democrats from DU.You ought to be a shamed of yourself! How would you like it if somebody said the same thing about YOU!
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posted on
06/22/2003 5:00:11 PM PDT
by
Lady In Blue
(Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
To: Captain Kirk
Now, the "idiots" are those who dare to ask questions! Nobody's asking any questions. Accusations, based on nothing, are being thrown about. This has been the case since the day that GWB took office. The only thing that changes is the accusation.
When "the idiots" come up with the next accusation, they'll pretty much drop this one. They're just throwing things against the wall hoping that something, anything, will stick.
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posted on
06/22/2003 5:24:47 PM PDT
by
alnick
To: alnick
It seems kind of strange that so many want to find WMD's. This after the same individuals spend so much time declaring that the administration did not deceive the public by saying there were WMD's.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:21:53 PM PDT
by
meenie
To: Sonny M
Anytime I see Hagel he is dissing Bush on this iisue. He did it before the war and he's still doing it. I think he's a jerk and I'm glad they didn't put him on the ticket. For one thing, he does not support the Bush foreign policy, which I and most Americans do support.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:32:26 PM PDT
by
Williams
To: Captain Kirk
They have two rooms full of top seret doc and hagle is an asshole of the highest magnitude.He has his head 14ft up mccccannnanics ass and he cannot breath any fresh air to get rid of his hatred of Bush. IT SHOWES EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH!!!!!!!!
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:41:20 PM PDT
by
cksharks
To: All
I have visited with Hagel one on one and can tell you he is not an airhead. Vietnam left a lasting impression on him and he is very concerned that any military man that is exposed to danger is there for a real cause defending the US. It is too bad that most people have not had the experience to appreciate the loss of human life.
It is easy to spout off and call an independent thinker any name that comes to mind without considering that person's background and the reasons for his thinking. Hagel is honest in his beliefs and that is more than you can say for most of our politicians and their followers who are more interested in manipulating public opinion than honest beliefs.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:42:25 PM PDT
by
meenie
To: ValenB4
Yeah and Lee Harvey Oswald was a veteran. And Mcveigh.
Go back to DU, Begala. Monkey boy President? That is so pathetic and trite. You and all the liberal minions say that-- be original you tool!
To: Lady In Blue
I wouldn't be that upset if someone called me a monkey. And I'm not ashamed of myself for calling the semi-coherent Great Leader, our Il Duce, or more appropriately in his case, Ill Douche, a monkey. Although most Democrats are stupid, stupid Democrats are not the only ones who think him so. I'd venture to say that I'm probably more conservative than you are.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:50:51 PM PDT
by
ValenB4
(Absence makes the fond grow harder.)
To: faithincowboys
No thanks. You're more liberal than I am.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:52:23 PM PDT
by
ValenB4
(Absence makes the fond grow harder.)
To: meenie
When you talk to him next time tell him to ask his questions in the SECRET INTELLENGENCE COMMITTIE HEARINGS not on abc bashing bush.
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posted on
06/22/2003 6:52:31 PM PDT
by
cksharks
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