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Joe McCarthy Vindicated, Again
www.chuckmorse.com ^ | June 20, 2003, | Chuck Morse

Posted on 06/22/2003 4:58:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Ann Coulter is a talented writer as well as an attractive and popular woman, which is why she's in a position to take on an issue that many have courageously championed for decades to little avail. In her upcoming book,

Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism , Coulter states:

"The myth of 'McCarthyism' is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. Everything you think you know about McCarthy is a hegemonic lie."

The truth about Joe McCarthy and the story of his successful exposure of the communist conspiracy that infected our government during the FDR Administration is once again being trumpeted but this time by a cultural icon who has already sold millions of books and who can't be ignored or dismissed. Hallelujah!

Regarding the ongoing and unrelenting big-lie attack on Joe McCarthy from the left, a man who was simply doing the job he was elected to do, namely, to guard our Constitution and our way of life against a conspiracy to undermine it, Coulter comments:

"Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals...McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party."

It should be noted that it is certainly a protected right in this country for an individual to be a Communist. It is also a right for an individual to be a Nazi, or a Klansmen. Contrary to leftist agitprop, Joe McCarthy recognized this right, he expressed that recognition on many occasions, and he was quite careful to play by the rules in his investigation of government subversion. Joe McCarthy, contrary to leftist lies, was involved in investigating the phenomena of secret communists operating within the Federal Government, nothing more and nothing less.

During his brief tenure in the U.S.Senate, Joe McCarthy confronted and uncovered the bizarre phenomena of certain government officials, in some cases very highly placed and regarded government officials, as engaging in a concealment of their communist involvement. An analogous situation to the one that Joe McCarthy confronted would be if an al-Qaeda operative were working in the State Department or another sensitive agency of government today and keeping his affiliation secret. Joe McCarthy demonstrated the fact that Communists had no more of a right work in our government than Nazis or a Klansmen. The American people, conversely, have a right to know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position where they could adversely influence the future of the country.

The liberal response to Joe McCarthy's revelations, then and now, was to submit him, and his reputation to a public auto da fe, one that continues to stand as an example of what the left will do to someone who dares to defy their agenda. Coulter states: "While consistently rooting against America, liberals have used a fictional event forged of their own hysteria - "McCarthyism" -- to prevent Americans from ever asking the simple question: Do liberals love their country?" Congratulations to Ann Coulter, may she have much success with this endeavor for the sake of all of us.

At a frightful sacrifice, even of his own well being and life, Joe McCarthy was nevertheless successful in fulfilling the public obligation he shouldered. His work was not in vain. In spite of a campaign of vilification, hate, and lies, Joe McCarthy successfully alerted the American public at large to the danger Communism posed. Joe McCarthy's career parallels that of Winston Churchill in that Churchill likewise tried to warn the British people about the impending danger of Nazism in the 1930's. Churchill was vilified before World War II but like Joe McCarthy, Churchill understood his times and the nature of evil. Human history can often hinge on the conscience and action of a single brave individual. We should remember with gratitude that the left failed in its attempt to silence Joe McCarthy as most Americans woke up in time to their treachery.


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1 posted on 06/22/2003 4:58:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm afraid that Ann is too late on this one. The leftist revisionist historians have already successfully made the terms McCarthyism and Joe McCarthy into practical cursewords. When confronted with Ms. Coulter's writings, they will say "Can you believe this woman? Defending McCarthyism?" With no further attempt at argument from them, for they feel that merely invoking the evil word McCarthyism proves their point.
2 posted on 06/22/2003 5:05:52 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Alcoholic and un appealing,he was right.It was worse than he knew at the time.The government was riddled with people with Communist sympathy and some of them spys.Hollywood rails against McCarthism but it was the House UnAmerican Committee that exposed Hollywood and jailed some of their number. McCarthy didn't cause one person to be blacklisted either.
3 posted on 06/22/2003 5:11:24 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I wonder what old Winnie told Joseph Stalin and FDR at Malta?

Great men save nations but, all too often, never get the credit they truly deserve.

An Iron Curtain Does Exist ..

to ..

Tear down this wall, Mr Gorbachev.

Churchill and Reagan are right up there as some of the greatest to speak out in the name of FReedom and Liberty. And so would it seem, is TG Joe. ;-) Thanks

4 posted on 06/22/2003 5:12:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe McCarthy, contrary to leftist lies, was involved in investigating the phenomena of secret communists operating within the Federal Government, nothing more and nothing less

If I am not too far wrong I think that there is at least one in the Senate right now.

5 posted on 06/22/2003 5:16:53 PM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: Don Corleone
Don't know about the Senate, but I'm convinced there's one in the House.
6 posted on 06/22/2003 5:18:20 PM PDT by squidly
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To: MEG33
The government was riddled with people with Communist sympathy and some of them spys.

Nowadays they're referred to as democrats.

7 posted on 06/22/2003 5:19:53 PM PDT by b4its2late (Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires)
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To: MEG33
House UnAmerican Committee

I think that the correct name for that committee was House Committee on UnAmerican Activities. The other name sounds more like a description of the Democrat Party.

8 posted on 06/22/2003 5:20:23 PM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: squidly
We can undo what they have done if we work as hard at it as they do.
9 posted on 06/22/2003 5:21:56 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Perhaps the greatest mistake that Joe McCarthy made was in relying far too heavily on his fellow Catholics, from Boston, John and Bobby, to scout out the penetration of Communism into the inner workings of the US Government. Does it surprise anybody that Bobby Kennedy was one of Joseph McCarthy's foot soldiers in the search for Red spies in the Army and State Department? And that as such, some deliberately erroneous information, that could be shown to be false, was fed to McCarthy? When this information was made public by McCarthy, he was found to be misrepresenting things on some small way, therefore he was lying about all the charges he was making.

The plot was very widespread, and quite insidious. But it fits with so much more that was happening in that desperate decade of the 1950's.
10 posted on 06/22/2003 5:22:45 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Don Corleone
If I am not too far wrong I think that there is at least one in the Senate right now.

You rang?

11 posted on 06/22/2003 5:24:04 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sorry, but this tag line has been blocked by the FTC "do not tag" list!)
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To: Don Corleone
I left out activity!House UnAmerican Activity Committee(HUAC)!
12 posted on 06/22/2003 5:27:18 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
It was worse than he knew

You're right.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, we found out that the communists had more spies and sympathizers in our government than McCarthy ever suspected.

13 posted on 06/22/2003 5:27:47 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: MEG33
I have had a great deal of difficulty in finding any first hand accounts of McCarthy being an alcoholic. This is always repeated as if it were a mantra but without any firm data to back it up.

Considering the lengths people have gone to smear this man, I wonder if this could be another aspect of their propaganda against him.
14 posted on 06/22/2003 5:27:57 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: b4its2late
Watch for words like "progressive".
15 posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:29 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: squidly
The leftist revisionist historians have already successfully made the terms McCarthyism and Joe McCarthy into practical cursewords.

But the left knows the truth--as they have known all along. Coulter reopening the debate is driving them crazy. There are generations out there who have no idea what occurred and are open to having the common wisdom challenged.

16 posted on 06/22/2003 5:33:23 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: hedgetrimmer
One thing that will tell against the Big Lie is that Mc Carthyisim IS a pratical curse word but as people who understand it as such come to see that there is no there there (as Coulter's book demonstrates) the effect of surprise is amplified.

This happened to me w?respect to Rush Limbaugh. My opinion of him was based upon the way he was talked about and referred to by the media. Then one dayI surfed into his show on the radio and listened to hear examples of his Evil. Boy, was THAT an eye opener! I was STUNNED at the difference between the media dipiction and REALITY!
17 posted on 06/22/2003 5:33:34 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: HISSKGB
An ER nurse I know who has seen many alcoholics die of liver failure told me she finds it difficult to believe drinking is what killed McCarthy--not at his age and not so fast.

The recently released transcripts of the executive sessions of McCarthy's committee has sworn tesitmony that the Communist Party USA had a hit out on him and that Horace S. Craig, a top CIA official, mused "It may be necessary" to liquidate McCarthy.

18 posted on 06/22/2003 5:41:24 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: alloysteel
McCarthy's data came from Air Force Intelligence, ONI, the FBI and countless communist defectors who willingly testified.

Stalin's purges of the late 30s woke up quite a few communists who then realized the error of their ways and reported what they knew of this massive espionage. Also the communists caught with stolen secrets in the Amerasia affair had already occurred.

McCarthy was aware of this.
19 posted on 06/22/2003 5:46:31 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: DPB101
I read he died of acute hepatitis.Barry Goldwater said he probably drank too much.I just read enough hateful descriptions,though, in a google search to last me forever!One described him as a rebel without a cause.Guess how credible I found that writer!
20 posted on 06/22/2003 5:53:39 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: DPB101
An historical note - I don't know if it is important - in about 1970 I read an article in the Washington Post about Joseph McCarthy. It as supposedly an interview with a pharmacist in Washington D.C. who claimed he had been supplying McCarthy with --- HEROIN --- and claimed McCarthy had a long history of drug use.

At the time I knew that this was simply propaganda from the Washington Post. The idea that a pharmacist would supply an illegal drug that was easily available on the streets of D.C., and untraceable, was obviously a lie.

At the time, I thought, "Joseph McCarthy was right all along." Yes, he was.

21 posted on 06/22/2003 5:56:04 PM PDT by DesertWalker
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To: MEG33
Alcoholic and un appealing,he (McCarthy) was ...

Big deal. So's Ted Kennedy.

22 posted on 06/22/2003 5:58:27 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
State Department
23 posted on 06/22/2003 6:10:29 PM PDT by certify
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To: DesertWalker
I've heard liberals mention McCarthy and heroin. Never found the source. There was a rumor he was homosexual too. That became a national story after an article by Hank Greenspun in the Las Vegas Sun on October 25th, 1952. Greenspun was as mobbed up as were most in Vegas at the time.

What we do know now, is that from 1920 when Lenin gave John Reed over a million bucks in plunder from the Tsars to fence in NYC until the end of the USSR, there was a massive, well financed campaign to subvert our government.

McCarthy got in the way of those doing it. And he died at an suspiciously early age.

24 posted on 06/22/2003 6:12:58 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: MEG33
Alcoholic and un appealing,he was right.It was worse than he knew at the time.The government was riddled with people with Communist sympathy and some of them spys.Hollywood rails against McCarthism but it was the House UnAmerican Committee that exposed Hollywood and jailed some of their number. McCarthy didn't cause one person to be blacklisted either.

And this is EXACTLY why the Bush Admin Wants & Needs a close circle when conducting the War on Terror and other matters.

25 posted on 06/22/2003 6:13:02 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: yankeedame
Teddy Kennedy ,affectionately known as "The Swimmer"?The only thing I regret about McCarthy is that what he was bringing to the public was so important to the nation and he was giving ammunition to all the naysayers and lefty media types to discount the real Red menace we had to fight.He was right.
26 posted on 06/22/2003 6:15:49 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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27 posted on 06/22/2003 6:31:03 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Tailgunner Joe
McCarthy worked with and was a close personal friend of Bobby Kennedy. Kennedy was counsel for McCarthy's Senate investigations sub-committee. He was supposed to be the primary attorney, but it was decided that since a lot of the targets of the investigations were Jewish it would be better received if the Jewish Roy Cohn was counsel rather than the Catholic Bobby Kennedy. In fact, so persoanl was the McCarthy-Kennedy relationship, that McCarthy was godfather to Bobby Kennedy's first child. Democrats try to suppress this relationship.

How the world would be different if Bobby Kennedy had just stayed on as counsel.

28 posted on 06/22/2003 6:31:13 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
hmmm, my hosting service is down for some reason...
29 posted on 06/22/2003 6:33:58 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: DPB101
I read the homosexual rumor but not the heroin.The fact that he was right about communism got lost in the attacks about him...which worked very well..didn't it!Monica stalked Clinton,too,uh huh.McCarthy didn't have a blue dress to challenge all the gossip.He did get a censure.He was reckless with his words.It was hardly something to sink a career.
30 posted on 06/22/2003 6:36:56 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Don Corleone
It was HCUA and not HUAC, but HUAC was something that the opponents (communists) could say as a word (especially in the 1960s).
31 posted on 06/22/2003 6:39:44 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: isthisnickcool
The last time I saw a set of teeth that looked like that I floated them.
32 posted on 06/22/2003 6:39:53 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I think it was Mona Charon who said the "mc carthyism" has served as an eternal restraining order on anyone criticizing liberals.
33 posted on 06/22/2003 6:42:23 PM PDT by anncoulteriscool
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To: anncoulteriscool
And we're not going to take it anymore!
34 posted on 06/22/2003 6:44:43 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: FreedomCalls
it was decided that since a lot of the targets of the investigations were Jewish it would be better received if the Jewish Roy Cohn was counsel rather than the Catholic Bobby Kennedy

Didn't help much. Those under investigation still tried to play the antisemitism card. Vol. 3 of the just released executive transcripts deals with possible Soviet agents at the Army's Ft. Monmouth radar labs. Many of the scientists there went to City College with Julius Rosenberg (who had recruited, the government knew, at least 10 friends to work for the Soviets). The committee wonders how those under investigation got lawyered up so fast:

Mr. Rainville. Then a couple of attorneys were there. Don't you wonder who is paying the bill?

Mr. Lovenstein. I know who is paying the bill.

Mr. Rainville. Oh, I thought you said you didn't know about that.

Mr. Lovenstein. I know who is.

Mr. Cohn. Who is?

Mr. Lovenstein. The B'nai B'rith Society, I know. This has been indicated.

Mr. Jones. The B'nai B'rith?

Mr. Lovenstein. Yes.

Mr. Rainville. The Anti-Defamation Society, you think?

Mr. Lovenstein. I heard the society mentioned. I don't think they have been called in . . .

Mr. Cohn. I want to ask you this: What is the point of B'nai B'rith having anything to do with this?

Mr. Lovenstein. There is an assumption that there is an anti-Semitic movement.

Mr. Cohn. Well, that is an outrageous assumption. I am a member and an officer of B'nai B'rith.

Mr. Lovenstein. I was under the same naive impression until I became aware of some facts. Excuse me for saying that.

Mr. Cohn. Sure. Who made the suggestion that there is an anti-Semitic movement?

Mr. Lovenstein. The rest of the people who have been suspended or un-cleared. I didn't originate it. I have heard it in the group . . .in the current investigation, to the best of our knowledge--I say ``our''; this is the meeting--there were fifteen people on the carpet, either suspended or uncleared. Of the fifteen, fourteen are Jewish. . . .

Mr. Cohn. This is all news to me. I don't know the religion of these people, and I don't care. It doesn't matter whether out of 530 people there are 530 Jews or Catholics or Protestants . . .

Mr. Schine. Thank you very much, sir.

Incidentally, on the question of anti-Semitism, if somebody there is anti-Semitic, according to your percentage figures, I would say he was fighting a losing battle. That 25 percent Jewish is rather a high percentage.

Mr. Lovenstein. Not at the current rate, because the current rate of suspensions is practically 99 percent Jewish. If you keep going at 99 percent, ultimately you get almost that whole 25 percent.

Mr. Schine. Of course, religion doesn't exclude the possibility of being involved in criminal activity or provide a shield which he can hide behind.

Mr. Lovenstein. Right, sir.

Mr. Jones. Where do you believe the fountainhead of this anti-Semitism stems from out there at Monmouth? . . .


35 posted on 06/22/2003 6:58:43 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals...McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been laughed off by the Democratic Party."

Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals...McCarthy was not tilting at windmills. Soviet spies in the government were not a figment of right-wing imaginations. He was tilting at an authentic Communist conspiracy that had been EMBRACED by the Democratic Party."

36 posted on 06/22/2003 7:20:17 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Treason doth never prosper")
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To: DPB101
Regretably, secular Jews were prominent in many of the various European and Russian revolutionary movements, including the Communists, from 1848 right on through the 20th century. This does not excuse any kind of antisemitism; but neither should we ignore the historical facts for fear of antisemitism.

In fact, many Jews turned to secular progressivism as early as the seventeenth century, after the failure of Sabbatai Zevi and the messianic fervor of that time.
37 posted on 06/22/2003 7:31:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: vetvetdoug
The last time I saw a set of teeth that looked like that I floated them.

LOL!

38 posted on 06/22/2003 7:37:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Cicero
They couldn't have done it without liberal WASPS.

The New England Christians who became, by the end of the 1800s, secular humanists, were very old Testament in outlook at the start. They denied the divinity of Christ and focused on works and the law. Communism was/is a perfect fit for many Jews and Christians. Karl Marx has been referred to as the last Old Testament prophet. Sure seems to fit to me. That marxism is a religion is the only reason I can see that people continue to believe when proof is all around them of what an abject failure it is.

39 posted on 06/22/2003 7:42:20 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Well, I knew he was an alcoholic. Smoked like a chimney, which would and could account for an early death, but he was vindicated in all of his assertions and more importantly the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY has been vindicated. They have been vilified more than any other conservative, political organization on the face of the planet.

The measure of your stature is taken by the ferocity of your opponent. Given the way JBS has been targeted by the liberals for utter destruction is in itself a form of vindication. THIS is the reason why they insisted on having the US SENATE investigate them shortly after their formation in the 1950's in anticipation of such attacks in the future. Of course, they were correct.

40 posted on 06/22/2003 7:47:10 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: ExSoldier
JBS got into trouble over Eisenhower, didn't it?

The transcripts just released show that Ike refused to let the Army testify about spying at Ft. Monmouth. Do you know why?

41 posted on 06/22/2003 7:51:46 PM PDT by DPB101
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It would helpful if more were known about the cause of McCarthy's death.

Acute hepatitis has been listed as McCarthy's cause of death. Rarely, if ever, is this listed as the cause of death for chronic alcoholics unless he ingested some poisoned bad booze. No one ever said he died from the chronic(not acute)condition called cirrhosis or its sequelae.

The only other cause of a sudden demise is seen in an acute toxic poisoning where, usually college freshmen, ingest so much they are actually poisoned. In this case they die before hepatitis develops.
43 posted on 06/22/2003 8:26:13 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: ExSoldier
I am not sure how you knew he was an alcoholic. There has been documentation that he drank, as did many others, but where did you learn he was actually an alcoholic?
44 posted on 06/22/2003 8:36:02 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: squidly; Tailgunner Joe; All
Ahhhh! ... But the times have changed! I believe this is the PERFECT time to set this account straight.

Remember ... the public has witnessed a campaign of "vilification, hate, and lies", just recently foisted upon their President ... such a correlation ... oy vey!
45 posted on 06/22/2003 8:42:33 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Stoner
I have no idea why the military guy at the executive session claimed executive privilege. Ft. Monmouth was so bad, Ike closed it and Goldwater had a lab doing similar work open in Arizona--as far from City College grads as they could get.

Hope someone annotates the new transcripts. The Senate historian who worked on their release is a RAT and spun it with the same old commie rhetoric. There is a lot of interesting information in the documents.

btw...anyone wants excerpts from the transcripts, I saved some of the good parts. Send a private message if you want them. The formating isn't the best but they are readable.

46 posted on 06/22/2003 8:44:06 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: NormsRevenge
I wonder what old Winnie told Joseph Stalin and FDR at Malta?

I don't think they all made it there. Yalta, in the Crimea, hosted a big conference. The Vorontsovskiy palace just south of Yalta was the British lodging, and tour guides there will point out the chair that Winnie supposedly burned with a cigar while dozing.

While there Winnie also sought out a battlefield near Sevastopol, where ninety or so years earlier the British made a fruitless yet colorful charge made famous by Tennyson. Ever mindfull of history, even while he was in the process of creating it, Churchill laid a wreath at the monument there.

FDR? Despite assuring Churchill that "I can handle Stalin", spent most of his time in Yalta asleep. Another argument for term limits.

47 posted on 06/22/2003 8:59:17 PM PDT by struwwelpeter (Mne za derzhavu obidno)
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To: struwwelpeter
Thanks for the catch. :-)

48 posted on 06/22/2003 9:05:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
the left is still cheering for alger hiss even though soviet papers proved his guilt


49 posted on 06/22/2003 9:09:41 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They tried to hide it then, now they have their own website, Democrat Socialists. Some do still pretend to be centrists, but anyone who knows what communism is all about should be able to recognize them.
50 posted on 06/22/2003 9:11:37 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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