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Impeachment: 'Be Prepared' Good Advice for Bush White House
newsmax ^ | June 24, 2003 | Paul Weyrich

Posted on 06/23/2003 7:10:52 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Impeachment: 'Be Prepared' Good Advice for Bush White House

by Paul Weyrich

The late John Connally, former governor of Texas and secretary of the treasury in the Nixon administration, told me a story back in 1975 when I was a guest at his ranch. The governor had been indicted and, although later vindicated, he was fixated on the question of who was responsible for his indictment. He related to me an episode that he was convinced lay at the heart of his indictment. He said that one day he had been asked to testify before a House committee. He was confused about the location. He opened a door and there, off in a corner, was then-Defense Secretary Mel Laird, and with him was Father Robert Drinan, the extreme leftist congressman, and a half-dozen other leftists.

Since he had not been seen, he thought he'd listen to what Laird was discussing with those left-wingers. Connally found, to his utter shock and amazement, that Laird was discussing the impeachment of President Nixon. This was early on, when Drinan and the other leftists had just introduced impeachment articles in the House. Most everyone thought this was a frivolous joke on Drinan's part. Supposedly impeachment had no chance.

Anyway, to hear Connally tell it, Laird suddenly looked up and saw Connally there. The governor said Laird was obviously embarrassed and Connally excused himself, saying he was in the wrong place. He didn't give it much thought at the time, he told me, although the sight of Laird together with those left-wingers really troubled him.

Then, when the governor was indicted, he began to think of who would want him out of the way and he recalled the meeting. The governor went to his grave convinced that fellow Cabinet secretary Mel Laird was responsible for his indictment so he would not be credible if he fingered Laird as being in on a plot to get President Nixon.

Now, I have known Mel Laird for many years and while I am no fan of his, I find the notion that he would be plotting against President Nixon a bit hard to believe. But I mention the story for this reason.

When Father Drinan said that Nixon should be impeached, the president was at the height of his popularity. Drinan was regarded even by most of his Democratic colleagues as a far-out crazy. Drinan was not taken seriously.

Well, there is a little weasel tripping around now, insisting that there might well be grounds to impeach President George W. Bush. I have heard three different interviews with him on the subject. He sounds plausible.

His name is John Dean. He once was White House counsel under President Nixon. He blew the whistle on Nixon and for weeks was a matinee idol when Sen. Sam Ervin's hearings into Watergate were televised.

Perhaps Dean misses fame and thinks he can be a star once more. Who knows? Right now, only the fringes in the media and politics are taking him seriously. But if I were the administration, I would take him seriously. I would listen to every argument he is making and I would be prepared to counter it.

I am assuming, of course, that President Bush and Vice President Cheney didn't attempt to alter the data produced by the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and other agencies in regard to weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I still believe they may be found or at least we may learn how they were disposed of.

I can also believe that the CIA and even the DIA gave Bush very bad information. It was Bush's father, when he was president, who told me, based on CIA information, that if Gorbachev were deposed, then a Stalin-like figure would take his place. I told President Bush that the CIA could not have been further from the truth. Which of us was correct?

So it is entirely possible those agencies were dead wrong. What I find impossible to believe is that the current President Bush and the vice president told these agencies the conclusions they wanted when they knew that these conclusions were far removed from the truth.

To believe that is to believe that our president and vice president have absolutely no integrity. Whatever you think of their politics, I believe President Bush and Vice President Cheney are both men of character who would not take our country to war based on false information they helped to manufacture.

Obviously, if they did engage in such illegal practices, they would be impeached. There is no way that will happen. But even if Dean is way out in orbit, he should not be allowed to plant doubts in the minds of our citizens.

The administration should put the truth out there. Otherwise you never know how a far-out plot by someone who is not taken seriously will turn into something red-hot and blown way out of proportion by the media.

Lord knows enough people hate George Bush in this town that they will take any scrap of "evidence" they can find and will turn it into a dozen articles of impeachment.

I know the White House has competent counsel. But they have been busy trying to get good federal judges confirmed and many other matters. If you see them, urge them to add this to their "to do" list. We wouldn't want them to find themselves unprepared in the unlikely event the left is able to make something out of nothing.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2004election; bush; bushbashing; censureandmoveon; democrats; doesnotrisetolevel; election2004; impeachment; paulweyrich; rattricks
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1 posted on 06/23/2003 7:10:52 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
It is a might early for such talk. And campaign season has already started. The Democrats won't undertake a serious impeachment process during an election cycle. That is a major political undertaking and one that could cost them dearly. If they lose the next Presidential election, however, Bush better watch out and be prepared.
2 posted on 06/23/2003 7:15:29 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: TLBSHOW
Ha ha. Nobody takes John Dean seriously except his twin brother, Howard.
3 posted on 06/23/2003 7:16:40 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TLBSHOW
John Dean is a rat and he is married to a slut.
4 posted on 06/23/2003 7:17:59 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Dog Gone
I new they were one and the same.
5 posted on 06/23/2003 7:18:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: TLBSHOW
What I find impossible to believe is that the current President Bush and the vice president told these agencies the conclusions they wanted when they knew that these conclusions were far removed from the truth.
To believe that is to believe that our president and vice president have absolutely no integrity. Whatever you think of their politics, I believe President Bush and Vice President Cheney are both men of character who would not take our country to war based on false information they helped to manufacture.

Did you like the title? Wishful thinking TLBSHOW. John Dean is a rat!

6 posted on 06/23/2003 7:18:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: TLBSHOW
Unless the Democrats somehow magically regain the House, there is no chance of an impeachment. This is silly talk.
7 posted on 06/23/2003 7:19:09 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Dog Gone
Nobody takes John Dean seriously except his twin brother, Howard.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Nothing but net.

8 posted on 06/23/2003 7:20:23 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: TLBSHOW
The administration should put the truth out there.

Yes the "administration" should, but if the truth were detrimental to the "administration", would they?

9 posted on 06/23/2003 7:21:10 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: Batrachian
Those who believe that Bush will easily win the election in 2004, and hate the President, can only dream of the possibility of impeachment.
10 posted on 06/23/2003 7:21:23 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: TLBSHOW
This is pure Barbara Streisand. John Dean is viewed by most as a snivelling little narc.
11 posted on 06/23/2003 7:22:04 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: TLBSHOW; Dog Gone
"I new they were one and the same."

I knew that... (I did?)

Heck yeah, I knew that... (really?)

12 posted on 06/23/2003 7:25:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp (We get too soon old and too late smart!!!)
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To: deport; Mo1; marajade; justshe; Miss Marple; MJY1288; Howlin; PhiKapMom
PING

Check this out folks.

13 posted on 06/23/2003 7:27:49 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Batrachian
I can only see one scenerio where Impeachment proceedings might be possible. Bush wins re-election but very narrowly and the Republicans loses a substantial number of seats in the House. Further- during the campaign he runs to the "center" and angers conservatives. If Iraq is still an active mess with troops being killed daily- Bush would be vulnerable. But it is an outside chance. Any talk of impeachment before the next election is just wishful thinking among Democrats.
14 posted on 06/23/2003 7:29:21 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: TLBSHOW
Ain't gonna happen, and the reason is a sordid one. Bill Clinton.

There was a time when persons in Congress had sufficient integrity to make the possibility of crossing party lines and voting their own man out of office a credible enough threat that that man, Richard Nixon, resigned rather than face it. What the Democrats in the Senate did to defend Clinton in the name of naked political power precluded that possibility in future governments of both political parties. That is a very steep price to pay for the continuance of that utterly corrupt administration. It was, in fact, incredibly corrosive to the checks and balances that the Consitition had so carefully designed.

It's gone now, and for the foreseeable future. Where law applies only to one party it ends up applying to neither. Many who still insist that the whole affair was "just about sex" are in a serious state of denial as to just how serious a matter it really was and continues to be.

15 posted on 06/23/2003 7:30:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: TLBSHOW
Never miss a good chance to shut up.

~~Will Rogers

16 posted on 06/23/2003 7:30:44 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: jwalsh07; Dane; Mo1; A Citizen Reporter; McGavin999; Neets; ohioWfan; rintense; Carolinamom; ...
Wishful thinking. I can't decide on whose part though.
17 posted on 06/23/2003 7:31:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Careful. My brother and I were talking seriously about our desire to see Clinton Impeached back in 93'. People looked at us like we were mad. Things change.
18 posted on 06/23/2003 7:31:32 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Torie
Thoughts here?
19 posted on 06/23/2003 7:33:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
if I were the administration, I would take him seriously. I would listen to every argument he is making and I would be prepared to counter it.

I think that the Bush admin. remains very organized, and there is someone looking at each threat. If they let something like this gain a strong foothold, then there is something more than empty accusations to worry about.

My worries about this attack are very small, but its well worth keeping all eyes on the ball.

20 posted on 06/23/2003 7:33:31 PM PDT by rface ( Ashland, Missouri - Missouri's Democrat Gov. Holden is a POS)
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To: Howlin
LOL, Impeachment hearings have a good chance of getting started when Republicans have control of the House and Senate.

What drugs are these morons on?

21 posted on 06/23/2003 7:35:09 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Liberalism is the enemy of Freedom)
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To: Howlin
Aftre Florida and 8 years of Clinton, there will be a civil war before allowing the impeachment of President Bush. You heard it here first. :-}
22 posted on 06/23/2003 7:35:39 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Reagan Man
Never have been able to stand or trust John Dean! Think we should let G. Gordon Liddy go after him -- bet Dean would hightail it for the hills!
23 posted on 06/23/2003 7:36:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Billthedrill
That's quite accurate. But there is an unmistakeable bright side to that sordid affair.

Had the Democrats done the right thing, Clinton would have been removed.

But Al Gore would be President today, because incumbency is worth far more than 1000 votes in any state.

Kyoto, the ICC, tax hikes and more. The Taliban probably would still rule Afghanistan, and Saddam would definitely be enjoying scotch and porno movies in one of his palaces tonight.

Losing the impeachment fight was perhaps the best thing that could have happened from a practical matter, regardless of the damage that it did to governmental institutions and accountability.

24 posted on 06/23/2003 7:37:59 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Burkeman1
Careful. My brother and I were talking seriously about our desire to see Clinton Impeached back in 93'. People looked at us like we were mad. Things change.

Uh, Clinton had clearly lied to a Federal Judge and Grand Jury...and also tampered with witnesses.

There is NOTHING they can bring against Bush that is in any way comparable.

The charges against Clinton were sound and he had to admit to them in a deal not to be pursued after he left office.

The charges against Bush are a load of BS. There is NOTHING to them.

25 posted on 06/23/2003 7:38:08 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Howlin
But even if Dean is way out in orbit, he should not be allowed to plant doubts in the minds of our citizens.

So what does Paul do? Why, he continues to plant the doubt.

This is a dig by Weyrich. I just don't trust this man, and I haven't for a very long time.

26 posted on 06/23/2003 7:38:43 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Reagan Man
Oh Good Grief ...
27 posted on 06/23/2003 7:40:39 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: TLBSHOW
Whatever you think of their politics, I believe President Bush and Vice President Cheney are both men of character who would not take our country to war based on false information they helped to manufacture.

This is something that you should try to get through your head, TLB.........it will keep you from making yourself look silly over and over and over and over again.

28 posted on 06/23/2003 7:40:54 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH!!! 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Dog Gone
Oh, all right. Look on the bright side if you must. ;-)
29 posted on 06/23/2003 7:41:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Howlin
I don't know why Laird would want to try to get Connolly indicted, and just what influence Laird would have on that anyway escapes me. The reason it seems odd that Laird would want to indict Connolly, is that as LBJ said, it is better to have the guy in the tent pissing out, then out of the tent pissing in. So on balance, I ain't buying.
30 posted on 06/23/2003 7:41:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: jwalsh07
Pick me up on your way!
31 posted on 06/23/2003 7:42:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jorge
There is NOTHING to them.

Like that matters? We are dealing with Democrats here! They still insist that Iran-Contra was a big deal even after the Supreme Court struck down the Boland Amendment, the supposed "Violation" of which, all of those hearings were based!

32 posted on 06/23/2003 7:43:15 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Howlin
Nice little piece from Weyrich, hinting that the truth isn't really out there.

I don't appreciate it. Furthermore, Dean should not be given credibility by any conservative. He is an opportunist who surfaces when the liberals need an "expert" on impeachment, chiefly to justify whatever position they want to take.

Weyrich is either foolishly letting Dean stampede him, or he is clumsily making a threat.

Anyway, I bet Melvin Laird doesn't appreciate his name being in this column, either.

33 posted on 06/23/2003 7:44:01 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: sinkspur
Published guess where! Newsmax! Big surprise!
34 posted on 06/23/2003 7:44:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Billthedrill; Dog Gone
LOL........besides, we still have the Clintons to kick around......look at the really bright side: they are sucking the life out of the DNC.
35 posted on 06/23/2003 7:45:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
Anybody who is a real conservative knows better than to put one word of credence into a word John Dean says.......much less pass it on!
36 posted on 06/23/2003 7:47:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Burkeman1
"If Iraq is still an active mess with troops being killed daily- Bush would be vulnerable."

The question is, what constitutes a mess? The leftists will keep bring up any casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan... the press is begging to find the quagmire that they have been harping about late 2001. This makes Bush vulnerable, already. But, it seems that he has been campaigning for the next election for quite some time. Odds are, he will win easily, against the likes of Kerry.
37 posted on 06/23/2003 7:47:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Howlin
look at the really bright side: they are sucking the life out of the DNC.

They're gasping for air .. LOL

38 posted on 06/23/2003 7:49:06 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Howlin
Oh the impeachment thingie. Was that the thrust of your inquiry? Silly really, even if Bush falsified in a malicious fashion what the CIA info et al said per his speeches (which I strongly doubt). If we impeached on that basis, it would be a common occurence. And that is why I opposed any chatter about the Clinton impeachment, up to the point he lied under oath, and then it became a close question for me.
39 posted on 06/23/2003 7:49:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Howlin
Published guess where! Newsmax! Big surprise!

Who are the only ones talking about impeachment?

John Dean, (who needs the 15 minutes), nutbag callers to Washington Journal, and Paul Weyrich (ostensibly fingering John Dean).

Don't look at what people say; look at why they say it.

40 posted on 06/23/2003 7:49:29 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: TLBSHOW
Is Frist prepared to tell the democrats that they are not going to dump any S--t on
him. like Lott told the republicans?
41 posted on 06/23/2003 7:49:47 PM PDT by chainsaw
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To: sinkspur
I agree about Weyrich. How come he hasn't gone into seclusion to live apart from the world, like he suggested a couple years ago?
42 posted on 06/23/2003 7:50:44 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: TLBSHOW
I am assuming, of course, that President Bush and Vice President Cheney didn't attempt to alter the data produced by the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and other agencies in regard to weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I still believe they may be found or at least we may learn how they were disposed of.

I'm amazed that Paul Weyrich has given any credibility to this at all! Information about Sadaam's weapons of mass destruction has been available to the world for years; certainly many years before George W. Bush was elected.

What about the information that President Clinton claimed to have? Did he alter the data from the CIA as well? How about the United Nations? Surely they didn't base all their findings on CIA reports!

You see where I'm going with this? If I can connect these dots, why can't the people who supposedly support the President do the same VERY LOUDLY in public and shoot down all this crapola coming from the likes of John Dean and the folks in the Democrat Party.

43 posted on 06/23/2003 7:52:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Burkeman1
What did you think was the impeachable offense in '93?
44 posted on 06/23/2003 7:52:08 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: sinkspur
Who are the only ones talking about impeachment?

The far left has been throwing that were word around lately .. Katrina the Witch was on Hardball a couple weeks ago yapping about it also.

45 posted on 06/23/2003 7:53:38 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
If troops are still being killed in Iraq at the rate of one a day by election eve that will be double the amount killed during the war. It will be an official quagmire in the media if it is still happening two months from now. And if the economy is still anemic then Kerry has more than a chance but will be a lock. Bush Senior suffered the same fate and he only had a slightly bad economy to deal with and not a bleeding cist of an occupation. And factor in that the media will pull out all the stops to show how "conservative" Kerry is and you will have a Democratic win.
46 posted on 06/23/2003 7:56:35 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Travelgate.
47 posted on 06/23/2003 7:57:09 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
I cannot imagine that anyone could say that Kerry is conservative with a straight face! The sheeple might buy it, however... Gore almost won. Do you think that Hillary would run in the 2004 election, so that she wouldn't be facing an incumbent, Kerry?
48 posted on 06/23/2003 8:00:12 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Actually when I think about the conversation - there wasn't one thing at the time we thought he could be impeached for. We just said that he was so sleazy and corrupt that he would be impeached. Travelgate was more Hillary's thing. This is kinda family lore because my brother and I brought it up at a family vacation with some Cousins who are Democrats and they thought we were rabid "right wingers".

I knew Clinton was a small town con man from the first time I saw him. I think a good third of the country saw right through the guy from the second they saw or heard him. My "hatred" of Clinton is not because he is a Democrat or a liberal (I think he doesn't have an ideological bone in his body). It is because the man is a sociopath and I have always known it.

49 posted on 06/23/2003 8:02:56 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: facedown
Or a Barney would say:

" S W I S H "
50 posted on 06/23/2003 8:04:49 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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