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Feature: Border Hawk drone flies
United Press International ^ | 6/23/03 | Steve Sailer

Posted on 06/24/2003 4:21:46 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan

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1 posted on 06/24/2003 4:21:46 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: holyscroller; Spiff; HiJinx; flamefront; Drill Alaska; healey22; lutine; Right_Makes_Might; ...
An Illegal Alien Invasion **PING!!**
2 posted on 06/24/2003 4:22:20 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Spencer replied,

"I'm ideological in that I want to save my country."


3 posted on 06/24/2003 4:30:17 PM PDT by TheWillardHotel
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To: Tancredo Fan
Go ahead. Play with automatic drones. Have fun.

But in the end, the feds will come down on the technology you're using. Look to see them try and make model radio technology, GPS equipment, and if these things get big, General Aviation technology be heavily regulated or just made illegal.

The feds are already imposing a 30 mile restriction on all General Aviation aircraft wherever the president is. Which means during the campaign, a pilot runs the risk of getting arrested just because he didn't avoid the right area by enough miles.

4 posted on 06/24/2003 4:30:24 PM PDT by narby (I love the smell of Liberal fear in the morning...)
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To: Tancredo Fan
How dare Spencer show what's actually happening on the border. Isn't this anti-American?

What a hoot.
5 posted on 06/24/2003 4:32:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Tancredo Fan
There's something about the idea of pilotless drones, also known as unmanned aerial vehicles, that makes them seem both ominous cost effective and cool.
6 posted on 06/24/2003 4:34:07 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: DannyTN
No pilot - No labor

The pilot is sitting on the ground. The drone is flown by a radio link. There is not only labor for the pilot doing the flying, but there is also maintenance to keep the UAV in good mechanical and electronic condition. The principal advantage is not having a live pilot in the aircraft. Less fuel. No risk to the life of the pilot. Ability to make high G maneuvers that a live pilot could not tolerate.

7 posted on 06/24/2003 4:48:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: DannyTN
All UAV currently flying today both in military hands and the hands of the CIA are flown by rated pilots.

One of the guys who worked for my former flight department left right after 9/11 to go and fly UAV’s.

They also require maintance technicians to boot, they do have moving parts ya know…

8 posted on 06/24/2003 5:01:58 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: DoughtyOne
You have to wonder why our useless POS Fed hasn't done this already, and if not, WHY ARE THEY NOT DOING IT NOW????!!!

We have to have private people invest their own money to do what our government is constitutionally obligated to do?

They're doing everything they are not supposed to be doing and not doing anything they ARE supposed to be doing.

9 posted on 06/24/2003 5:02:46 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Tancredo Fan
Strato-plane looks skyward
10 posted on 06/24/2003 5:04:30 PM PDT by bicycle thug
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It still has got to be cheaper. The things just hover for hours, why pay a person to sit in a helicopter when he can be on the ground doing other things.

Eventually they will get good enough and cheap enough that you won't need expert pilots to fly them and one person will monitor 6 of the things.

11 posted on 06/24/2003 5:05:38 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Myrddin
The smallest military UAVs in service actually have no pilot, on the ground or anywhere else. They are simply launched, and then fly to predetermined coordinates and run preset search patterns, and orbit around items of interest on a path which keeps the camera on the center of the orbit.

This saves the military having to train R/C pilots. Just send em up, and tell em where to go and when to come home.

12 posted on 06/24/2003 5:10:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
All UAV currently flying today both in military hands and the hands of the CIA are flown by rated pilots. Not true. See my above. The ground controller just punches coordinates in on his laptop grid map, the plane flies itself. I forget the name of the model, it's about a 5 foot wingspan, made of foam by the "skunkworks."
13 posted on 06/24/2003 5:13:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Steve Sailer BUMP!
14 posted on 06/24/2003 5:16:17 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: AAABEST
from John Derbyshire

The Great Syllogism


Reader, I have been vouchsafed a revelation, a sudden flash of understanding, a satori, a glimpse of the inner workings of the universe, of the waters that are under the earth, of the hidden tissues that connect aspects of reality not normally thought of as being related to each other in any way at all.  Illuminated by that flash was quite a large part of the entire political landscape of the present-day USA, as if seen from a plane through a sudden gap in the clouds.  

I am going to lay out my revelation in three parts:  a preamble, then a syllogism, then a conclusion.  The syllogism seems to me so all-encompassing and revelatory that, shucking off false modesty, I am going to call it “The Great Syllogism.”  (Students of classical logic may complain that it is not, strictly speaking, a syllogism at all — more like a dilemma.  “Syllogism” has taken my fancy, though, and Merriam-Webster’s Third seems to permit this usage.  How many students of classical logic are there nowadays anyway?) 

Are you sitting comfortably?  Then I'll begin.

 

Not so much a preamble as a actual amble, conducted here in the outer New York suburbs, through some leafy streets with houses standing on plots that vary from one-sixth to one-half of an acre, and that show up in real-estate catalogs, when they do show up, at prices from the low 300s to the high 600s.  The time:  around nine thirty on a weekday morning.  My state of mind:  I had finished my breakfast, read the newspaper, seen the kids off to school and the wife off to work, attended to some e-mail chores, and read some news and opinion pieces on the internet.  Among the latter was Peter Wood’s review of John Ogbu’s Black American Students in an Affluent Suburb.  Then I set out to walk my dog.

There aren’t many people around in the burbs at this time of the morning.  Other than a couple of encounters with neighbors, the human beings I saw fell into three categories.

The garden-service people are solidly Central-American Indian types, though often working for a white boss.  They are small-built, dark-skinned and black-haired.  When I give them a friendly greeting they seem pleased and greet me back, smiling, but in a way suggesting that “Good morning!” is just about the limit of their English-language skills. 

The construction people are a mix of white and Hispanic, the one constant factor being that everyone acting in a supervisory way is white.  One of the roofing team — the owner of the firm, it sounds like — is talking up to his man on the roof.  He is doing this through a third party, who translates his Noo Yawk English into Spanish. 

The elderly lady out walking with her grandchild is white, but the children’s nurse pushing the stroller is a Mayan sculpture come to life.  The wordless smile with which she returns my greeting shows gold teeth. 

I don’t see any black people at all, nor any East Asians.

 

(1)  At any point in time — this one, for example — the United States economy needs different kinds of workers in different numbers.  It needs a certain number of lawyers, accountants, architects and doctors.  It needs a certain number of network supervisors, computer programmers, web designers, schoolteachers, tax preparers and nurses.  It needs a certain number of garden-service workers, lumberjacks, auto mechanics, plumbers, steel-fixers, cops, soldiers and child-minders.

(2)  Always scornful of privileges bestowed by accidents of birth or place, this country has a deep attachment to the idea of meritocracy.  In recent decades we have developed an equally strong emotional investment in the concept of racial equality.

(3)  Our very best efforts at creating a meritocratic education system always turn up the same unhappy results:  students of Ashkenazi-Jewish and East or South Asian ancestry are over-represented among the educational successes, while students of West African ancestry are over-represented among the educational failures.

(4)  All sorts of theories are available to explain (3) — John Ogbu’s is only the latest.  Unfortunately we don’t know which theory is true.  Possibly just one of the theories is true.  Possibly the true cause is something nobody has thought of yet.  More likely the truth contains elements, in different proportions, from several theories.

(5)  Until we understand the causes of (3), the most meritocratic system of education we can devise will produce a society with a highly-paid cognitive elite in which persons of Ashkenazi-Jewish and East or South Asian ancestry are over-represented, a class of manual and service workers in which black people are over-represented, and a clerical or small-entrepreneurial class in which white gentiles are over-represented.

(6)  Such a society would be grossly offensive to American sensibilities.  (See (2) above.)  It would also, in all probability, be unhappy and unstable.

(7)  Adjustments to the meritocratic principle therefore need to be made:  “affirmative action,” imposed “diversity” quotas in businesses, anti-discrimination laws, and so on.  We must trade off some meritocracy for social harmony.

(8)  The effect of these adjustments is — as it is intended to be! — to move up into the clerical class people who, in a pure-meritocratic system, would be in the manual class.  (And, to a less significant degree, to move up into the cognitive-elite class people who would otherwise be clerks.)

(9)  Corresponding adjustments to shift down into the manual class people who would, on a pure-meritocratic principle, be in the clerical class, are politically impossible.

(10)  Therefore the manual class is seriously under-staffed.

(11)  Millions of Third-worlders are only too glad to come to the USA to do manual or low-level service work.

(12)  Unfortunately the immigration laws do not allow them to come here.

(13)  The immigration laws should therefore be changed to permit a large inflow of unskilled aliens from the Third World.

(14)  Such changes are unpopular with large parts of the American public, who fear the cultural and economic consequences.

(15)  Politicians know (14) and therefore will not change the immigration laws.  And so:

(16)  For the sake of social harmony, we have no choice but to turn a blind eye while several million unskilled aliens enter our country and stay here illegally.

 

The paradox is that this particular way of avoiding one kind of social disharmony — racial stratification by class — introduces a different kind:  the colonization of large parts of our cities by non-English-speaking foreigners who, because of their illegal status, are stuck outside the mainstream of American life.  Also because of that same status, they are looked on with mistrust by citizens and legal immigrants.  This unhappy state of affairs is none the less considered, by most of us, to be the lesser of two evils.  Rough, dirty and strenuous work must be done.  If, as we suspect is the case, the choice is between having that work done by (a) large angry black people, or (b) small friendly brown people, we’ll buy the package:  affirmative action plus massive unrestrained illegal immigration.

Our political classes, who of course know all that I have been saying here, had a plan to finesse the situation by simply “regularizing” the illegals, thus at least removing the stigma of law-breaker from them.  That plan went up in the smoke of 9/11.  It was, in any case, grossly unfair to legal immigrants, who have to jump through numberless hoops to get the right to live here (it took me seven years).  We are stuck with the present situation, with the Great Syllogism.  Probably we are storing up untold trouble for ourselves.  The latest news in my own neighborhood is that an exceptionally vicious Central American gang named Mara Salvatrucha is now entrenched here on Long Island.  (“Working as landscapers and busboys by day and criminals at night,” says the New York Post.  Which puts those cheery lawn-service workers in a new light.)

Americans, though, do not lose much sleep over the prospect of future evils.  This is a big, empty country filled with boundless optimism.  David Brooks has remarked that the usual reaction of Americans when faced with “disapproval, anxiety, and potential conflict” is to move away.  Similarly, given the choice between a pressing problem today and a reckless policy likely to deliver far worse problems tomorrow, we opt for the second.  The future, after all, is full of possibilities, and by the time that second batch of problems arrives, we may have found some way to cope with them.

Let’s hope that that is what happens.  Ross Perot used to speak of the “giant sucking sound” of manufacturing jobs fleeing the U.S. to low-wage countries south of the border.  The giant sucking sound I am actually hearing, ten years later, is the sound of millions of unskilled Third Worlders being pulled into this country by the vacuum at the bottom of the labor market — a vacuum we have ourselves created by deciding that such low-quality work should not be done by Americans, especially not by those Americans most likely to be assigned to it by our educational system. 

We no longer believe in the dignity of labor.  We all want our kids to go to law school, and have convinced ourselves that they have a right to do so.  What do you think the slogan “No child left behind” means?  It means that no American child should have to become a low-status worker.  That’s what it means, and that is what we honestly and sincerely wish, because we fear we know what an American-born class of low-status workers would look like.  Everything else follows by pure logic.

15 posted on 06/24/2003 5:22:36 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Tancredo Fan
It just may be a way to slow down any terrorist who wish to cross the boarder with illegals.
16 posted on 06/24/2003 5:22:42 PM PDT by darkwing104
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To: AAABEST
I agree. It's frustrating as hell. Can't wait until one of our national ba--ards asks me to suppor them once again. If they can't understand or implement Article Four Section four of the constitution, they aren't worthy of a vote, plain and simple.
17 posted on 06/24/2003 5:27:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Travis McGee
I bet this would be fun.

Unmanned Air Vehicle Demonstration 2003

18 posted on 06/24/2003 5:28:03 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Travis McGee
I'm surprised to hear that they come home in one piece. Autonomous take off is easy. Landing requires some real precision instruments to line it back up with the runway and touch down without a mishap. It would be fun to see one of these UAVs on return.
19 posted on 06/24/2003 5:29:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: DannyTN
There's something about the idea of pilotless drones, also known as unmanned aerial vehicles, that makes them seem both ominous cost effective and cool.

At this stage of development these ABP "toys" may be "cost effective" but as these surveillance drones become useful thay are going to cost on the order of a thousand times more than they do now (>$30k/ unit).

The cost of the these aircraft lies not in their propulsion system or airframe but in their software and surveillance systems. Daylight imaging is cheap but night imaging of any useful resolution is astronomical. Reporting the position of the surveillance platform is realtively economical but reporting the position of the target in realtime is economically numbing for the private sector and their are only a limited number of sources for the navigation/flight/communication code. The individuals who developed this sophistocated software over the past 5 years aren't going to donate their work product to the ABP because they're patriotic.

One of the leaders in Micro UAV technology recently reminded me, when I broached the subject of ABP's experiments, that the cost of this technology is only justified by a free spending government because the system saves lives. The ABP will sadly conclude, after their experience, that it is cheaper to acquire, operate and maintain a light, civilian aircraft with a flight crew of two than it is to attempt to operate an autonomous, integrated, night surveillance system utilizing UAVs.

20 posted on 06/24/2003 5:32:22 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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