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NASCAR Called 'Bastion of White Supremacy'
CNSNews.com ^ | 6/25/03 | Marc Morano

Posted on 06/25/2003 3:13:14 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
Jesse Jackass is being his usual opportunistic extortionist self here. Nevertheless, NASCAR's hands aren't entirely clean here, on a historical basis. Imagine Don King arranging for a black fighter to be awarded a decision over a white in order to prevent a riot by black fans, and later "correcting" one judge's ballot.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The only black driver to win at NASCAR's highest level never got a proper celebration in Victory Lane.

Wendell Scott beat the field in a 200-mile race in 1963, but as the story goes, NASCAR officials were worried about how the predominantly white crowd in Jacksonville might react to seeing a black man hoist the winner's trophy.

Buck Baker was declared the winner, and only after two hours of review -- with the crowd long gone -- was a "scoring error'' detected and Scott named the official winner.

-Eric
51 posted on 06/25/2003 5:51:40 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: astounded
The first black driver will get a 10-lap lead from the pole position, while the white guys will have to use 6-cylinder engines.

No, no, no - this is too much like the U. of Mich. point system, which uses a rigid numbering scheme. Should give lead laps based on something like "hardship suffered as a child", or "from a poor family".

If I were nascar, and pursuing diversity goals, I'd just start giving some of the older nascars to inner-city youth.

52 posted on 06/25/2003 5:59:17 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (This space for rent.)
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To: kattracks
Why would anyone expect the shakedown to stop when it's obvious minorities still require gov. mandated handouts just to cope with ordinary, everyday, life in general ?
53 posted on 06/25/2003 6:02:37 AM PDT by warmath
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To: ovrtaxt
She also expressed hostility for some of NASCAR's fans. "When I watched NASCAR on TV, I saw people holding confederate flags. I am not going to go somewhere where I am seeing confederate flags all the time," Mills said.

You know, who even cares? Maybe Asians should start protesting their lack of representation in most sports. Perhaps whites & others should begin protesting black domination of professional football and basketball.

Maybe everybody ought to just quit whining.

I'm pretty disgusted with NASCAR for caving to Jesse's blackmail, though.

54 posted on 06/25/2003 6:03:14 AM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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To: Amelia
Asians? You mean like Hideo Fukuyama who can't seem to crack the top 30 of anygiven race on the NASCAR circuit? The poor guy came in dead last on Sunday's road course.

"Freedom of Association" is dead.

55 posted on 06/25/2003 6:12:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: kattracks
Ok, if Shakedown Jesse wants more black in NASCAR, I propose this:

Every professional sport must conform to quotas that accurately represent that race/ethnic groups' percentage of population in America. This means that MLB baseball teams will have to be 70% white, 13% Hispanic, 12% black, 4% Asian and 1% Native American. So at any one time, on the field, a baseball team must have 6 white guys, 1 black guy, 1 hispanic and 1 Asian/Native American. Same for the NBA. I want 3 whites on the basketball court at all times with 1 black and 1 hispanic. This WILL BE MANDATORY. NFL? 7 white guys, 2 black guys, 2 hispanics and 1 Asian/Native American, alternating out once in awhile with a black guy or a hispanic guy.

Hey...this only seems fair and we want to promote accurate diversity in professional sports.

56 posted on 06/25/2003 6:15:27 AM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
I like that theory. If only because it would cause Jumpin' Jesse's head to implode.

That, I would PAY to see...

57 posted on 06/25/2003 6:16:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: E Rocc
Nevertheless, NASCAR's hands aren't entirely clean here.

Sounds to me like NASCAR should be forced to pay reparations to all black drivers.

...Wendell Scott ... Buck Baker...

Well, at least these folks are honored on tv promos during "Black History Month", like those Tuskeegee airplane flyers.

58 posted on 06/25/2003 6:18:53 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (This space for rent.)
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To: kattracks
I wish the Upper Negro Society would just leave NASCAR alone. Why the NASCAR officials gave into Jesse JackA$$ is beyond me. Yikes! Don't they have enough pimps in other corporations to make them happy.

I'm not a huge fan of NASCAR, but I always watch the beginning of each race. The NASCAR and their fans are some of the most patriotic people in this country. I love the whole "hoopla" at the beginning. There's nothing wrong with praying before a sporting event and having our military jets fly over. I better stop writing now before I decide to start a lettter campaign to Jesse to clog up his email and fax. UGH!

59 posted on 06/25/2003 6:19:00 AM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: bullseye1911
Seems to me a black pit crew would give even Jeff Gordon's team a run for the money. He's in and out in about 14 seconds. My tires and wheels got stole in Detriot in half that time!!!
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Problem is they would be using the other pit crews' tools though!
60 posted on 06/25/2003 6:19:50 AM PDT by TexanAmerican
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To: stainlessbanner; shuckmaster
Dixie Ping!
61 posted on 06/25/2003 6:21:10 AM PDT by TomServo (Free Illbay!!)
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To: kattracks
OK, GOOD OLD BOYS...LETS ROLL...
62 posted on 06/25/2003 6:22:16 AM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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To: TomServo
Excuse me for being off topic, but what happened to ole' Illbay anyway?
63 posted on 06/25/2003 6:23:31 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (game on in 10 seconds....)
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To: kattracks
NASCAR took the bait. Fools.
64 posted on 06/25/2003 6:25:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: kattracks
bttt
65 posted on 06/25/2003 6:26:39 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: libertylover
I'm reminded of Danny DeVito in a movie where he's a slumlord ordered by the court to spend time in his own apartment building

Actually, that was Joe Pesci in "The Super". Funny movie.

66 posted on 06/25/2003 6:28:07 AM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: viligantcitizen
Excuse me for being off topic, but what happened to ole' Illbay anyway?

I often wonder the same thing...If you find out please let me know?

67 posted on 06/25/2003 6:31:16 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: kattracks
"....they are not looking for black females," Mills said. "

Bull hockey! If you qualify, you race. If she can show herself to be as talented as Dale Jr., she will make a bundle.

68 posted on 06/25/2003 6:34:35 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried.)
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To: ricpic
A simple question: Why is it incumbent on anyone to "reach out" to anyone else in a free society?

Touche`!

69 posted on 06/25/2003 6:38:41 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: xrp
Excellent suggestion!
70 posted on 06/25/2003 6:42:29 AM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: NerdDad
There are some jobs that absolutely must be filled based on skill and experience and not skin color or gender--building, maintaining, and driving these tin-can rockets are among those jobs.

Well, yeah, but 'Doctor' is another one of those jobs, and it hasn't stopped AA in medical schools.

71 posted on 06/25/2003 6:43:01 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: kattracks
Nothing is stopping Jessie Jackson from funding and fielding a black NASCAR team. Nothing. If he can get cars that meet spec and a driver that can qualify, he's in. You or I could do the same thing if we had the money.

He and others don't understand the setup of NASCAR and most other motorsports - If you have the money, a legal car, and a driver that can qualify, your in.

72 posted on 06/25/2003 6:43:06 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: kattracks
bump for later
73 posted on 06/25/2003 6:43:45 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: MJM59
I wonder why he does not try his extortion scheme on the NHL, probably not enough dollars in it for him.

Probably, but contrary to popular belief the NHL is very diverse. Someone already mentioned Kevin Weekes who is a black goalie for Carolina. Jarome Iginla plays for the Calgary Flames and is black and one of the leagues top scorers. There was a kid drafted on Saturday, I think his name was Andrew Stewart (I could be wrong)- who is black- to play for the LA Kings. Anson Carter plays for the Rangers and is black is very popular.

These are just the black players off the top of my head. There are more. Plus, there are players from every race and every country imaginable. Owen Nolan was born in Ireland. Paul Kariya is half Japanese (sp?). Last year the Blackhawks had a kid at prospect camp who was middle eastern. There are alot of Canadian players who are Indian (Ted Nolan, Theo Fleury, Chris Simon, etc.).

But the fact that NASCAR makes a mountain of money more then the NHL probably has a whole lot more to do with it.

74 posted on 06/25/2003 6:43:53 AM PDT by retrokitten (It's true! I'm a rage-aholic! I can't live without rage-ahol!)
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To: kattracks
To aid black america in their pursuit of NASCAR... it is surely necessary for the government to establish midnight go-kart racing for troubled black youth. This will help them grow up around the sport of racing and enhance their appreciation for the sport. A sport where physical attributes are not a deciding factor.

Anyone ever priced NASCAR tickets?

75 posted on 06/25/2003 6:44:00 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: NerdDad
There are some jobs that absolutely must be filled based on skill and experience and not skin color or gender--building, maintaining, and driving these tin-can rockets are among those jobs. Anything less will get people on the track and in the stands killed.

Probable response from JJ and the like: (Shrugging the shoulders) "So?"

76 posted on 06/25/2003 6:44:57 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: MoJo2001
I love the whole "hoopla" at the beginning.

Oh me, too! I'm not a NASCAR fan at all, but the fan fare at the beginning is so cool!

77 posted on 06/25/2003 6:45:43 AM PDT by retrokitten (It's true! I'm a rage-aholic! I can't live without rage-ahol!)
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To: af_vet_rr
Takes a little more overhead than a $100 pair of Nikes and a $12 basketball.
78 posted on 06/25/2003 6:45:47 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: retrokitten
I like the flyovers.
79 posted on 06/25/2003 6:46:14 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: billbears
Jesse's just mad they have white letters on the tires!
80 posted on 06/25/2003 6:46:28 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: kjam22
Me too. They usually have one at the start of the Rose Parade, too (the only parade I watch). So I never miss the start.
81 posted on 06/25/2003 6:47:18 AM PDT by retrokitten (It's true! I'm a rage-aholic! I can't live without rage-ahol!)
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To: af_vet_rr
God forbid anyone should explain to JJ that he would half to start in the BUSCH league to PROVE YOURSELF. That's just one more rule designed by the white man to hold the black man down!
82 posted on 06/25/2003 7:05:52 AM PDT by warmath (I can already hear it.)
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To: par4
After NASCAR, the next target will probably be Formula 1

Bernie Eccelstone and Max Mosley would put up with Jackson's antics for all of about 5 seconds before completely ignoring him.

83 posted on 06/25/2003 7:07:13 AM PDT by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: kattracks
I wonder what Jackson thinks of the NBA or NFL? Fewer and fewer whites every season.
84 posted on 06/25/2003 7:08:31 AM PDT by al_c
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Hey Jesse ... Could it be that they're just not interested in participating in NASCAR? And what about all the other racing leagues? Gonna pick on them or just the one from the good ol' South?
85 posted on 06/25/2003 7:10:53 AM PDT by al_c
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To: NYC GOP Chick
NASCAR ping
86 posted on 06/25/2003 7:11:38 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're bad. We're Nationwide)
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To: Flurry
True. If we're going to make pro sports mirror the racial percentages (you know, we need quotas, for equality...) we find in society, then there should only be 18% blacks in the NBA.

I want the Supreme Court to make this ruling, like they did for colleges. ( /sarcasm off )

87 posted on 06/25/2003 7:29:58 AM PDT by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: Gargantua
In fairness a black NASCAR team has little chance of being competitive now days. An 85 4 four Caprice needing paint job with at least 2 space saver spares on the ground, just isn't going to hit the speeds or have the endurance. Tiger Earnhart will have to find an established team.
88 posted on 06/25/2003 7:38:48 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: warmath
More to the point way should they stop when they are so effective. Everybody JJ shakes down pays up. NASCAR, Honda, Toyota, Budwieser the list is never ending. Racist has become the most powerful world in the American lexicon. It can stop all debate, opens up wallets, stops meaningful reform and sends whites scurrying for cover begging for forgiveness as they go..
89 posted on 06/25/2003 8:04:41 AM PDT by redangus
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To: mitchbert
Don't bet on it. Who would have thought NASCAR would have caved?
90 posted on 06/25/2003 8:09:31 AM PDT by redangus
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To: redangus
Don't bet on it. Who would have thought NASCAR would have caved?

Point taken, but recall that the FIA had no hesitation in telling Belgium to take a flying leap over their tobacco advertising restrictions, and SPA was widely accepted as THE F1 track. There is no corner in racing like the Au Rouge.

91 posted on 06/25/2003 8:15:59 AM PDT by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: bullseye1911
It takes 14 seconds for gordons team because they replace the tires and wheels.
92 posted on 06/25/2003 8:29:41 AM PDT by bigj00
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To: kattracks
NASCAR is doomed. They can't see past the dollar sign in their eyes. They are leaving their fan base in search of new fans with more money. For example, take the moving of the Southern 500 from Darlington to California. Sure NASCAR can sell more tickets in California in the short run. But how long before the new Fontana Speedway goes the way of the Riverside and Ontario speedways? Southern California has had two world class racing facilities with Winston cup races in the past. Both of them have been closed and bulldozed. California fans are fickle. As soon as the new wears off, the fans won't be back. When the Fontana speedway is bulldozed for new housing and NA$CAR comes crawling back to it fan base, will the fans forgive and forget? As for jesse hihackson, he must have forgoten about Wendell Scott, a black man who raced in NASCAR's top series for two decades and won a cup race in 1963. NASCAR's "color barrer" was broken 50 years ago. It's not racism keeping the blacks out. It's attitudes like hijackson's, breeding hatred for whites among blacks.
93 posted on 06/25/2003 8:31:39 AM PDT by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: Flurry
Nonsense, Dude.

Got my Somali Posse out rounding up the equipment we need to become competitive, right now. We'll sell off the stereos, airbags, bumpers, and mag wheels; and keep the engines and transmissions.

Rev. Jackson is going to give us the extra seed money we need for logos, uniforms, press kits, etc. Sponsorship will not be a problem with Jackson backing us up.

94 posted on 06/25/2003 8:54:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
NASCAR should tell Jackson to put his money where his mouth is. They should tell him to buy a car and start a competitive team.
95 posted on 06/25/2003 8:58:06 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Kenny Bunk
Je$$e ain't gonna spend any of his money to help a brother.
96 posted on 06/25/2003 9:09:23 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: j_tull
And I wonder when these people are going to stop letting J.Jackson do their thinking and their talking for them? If this young lady would crack open a history book; she might find out that there were blacks that fought on the Confederate side! That is, she will if she has an open mind.

She might find to her surprise, that some of her own ancestors possibly fought under "that Confederate flag"! And not only that, there were white people who helped many blacks to get out of slavery! Sheesh, these people need to learn their history better, instead of listening to the one of the biggest racists of our time!
97 posted on 06/25/2003 9:19:30 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: kattracks
When CNSNews.com asked NASCAR's Pyne about the company's involvement with Jackson, he refused to respond.

"I don't have anything to say," Pyne told CNSNews.com.

Omertà.

98 posted on 06/25/2003 9:21:18 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: kattracks
Maybe black guys don't race because there isn't a college handout to get them there?
99 posted on 06/25/2003 9:22:21 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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To: NerdDad
Exactly. Stock racing isn't a part of black culture, but still whites must make concessions and give blacks 14% of the sport. Of course, blacks need not make any similar concessions to whites in any of their organizations, and are fully validated when they whine about whites "stealing" their music, their ideas, or their inventions.
100 posted on 06/25/2003 9:25:58 AM PDT by Teacher317
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