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British troops 'were executed'
This is London ^ | 6/25/03 | By Robert Fox in Basra and Valentine Low, Evening Standard

Posted on 06/25/2003 12:03:49 PM PDT by scotslad

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To: leftiesareloonie
"The want to remake Iraq as a stable, market-oriented, secular democracy in the heart of the middle east. "

Like trying to build a Porsche out of turds. I don't think these people are capable of doing it on any level. The arab world is like Africa with oil.

41 posted on 06/25/2003 12:58:28 PM PDT by newwahoo
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To: scotslad
said one Iraqi. "As Muslims, we can't accept dogs at our homes."

So....where do the wives sleep?

42 posted on 06/25/2003 12:59:48 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: Aaron0617
No helmets, no kevlar and...

battled it out with Iraqi gunmen for two hours before giving up their weapons

no radios.

43 posted on 06/25/2003 1:02:58 PM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: newwahoo
I hope you are wrong about that. Now that we've taken it on, we've got to at least provide Iraq with a relatively benign and hopefully secular dictatorship, beholden to the west.

The cost of failure is now SUPER high. So despite the fact that I thought this was a bone-headed idea borne of utter hubris and arrogance, I don't think we can turn tail now.

If some combination of the Shias and Baathist and pan-arabists drive us out. Iraq will be super hostile to the US for the rest of history. It will go nuclear as fast as it possibly can. ANd the UN will NEVER EVER impose sanctions on it again.

So we had better get this silly exercise right NOW.
44 posted on 06/25/2003 1:03:23 PM PDT by leftiesareloonie
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To: newwahoo
The arab world is like Africa with oil.

Africa is like Africa with oil.

45 posted on 06/25/2003 1:05:00 PM PDT by dead
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To: scotslad
"Sergeant Simon Alexander Hamilton-Jewell, from Chessington. He was 41 and single. Corporal Russell Aston, 30, from Swadlincote, Derbyshire, married with a daughter. Corporal Paul Graham Long, 24, "

Anyone know why these soldiers are so old for their rank. Reservists? Are promotion schedules different from US forces?

46 posted on 06/25/2003 1:05:29 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: Lazamataz
From elsewhere in the same poem:

"When your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight;
Just take open order, lie down and sit tight
And wait for supports like a soldier."
- --"The Young British Soldier," by Rudyard Kipling

47 posted on 06/25/2003 1:07:21 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: henderson field
Dog hating is definitely a hate crime. I love all animals. My daughter has a hermit crab, gerbils, rats, one cat, one dog and is pushing for a snake (wants one that eats grass instead of mice). I forgot, she also has a lizard.

Also, we have wounded birds and assorted wounded small wild animals from time to time-mostly victims of our cat. Our cat is a hunter-beloved by our neighbors because he kills rats. People borrow the cat sometimes so they can get rid of mice and rats.

In all seriousness though, I offer my condolences to the families of the British soldiers and hope sincerely that their killers are brought to justice very soon.
48 posted on 06/25/2003 1:09:59 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: newwahoo
"Like trying to build a Porsche out of turds."

Every significant accomplishment has been sneered at by those claiming it was impossible. The price we've paid thus for is miniscule, and this incident is no significant conformation of pessimism.

49 posted on 06/25/2003 1:11:11 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: dead
Put your hands up!”
“Allah forbids it!”
“Then lay on the ground!”
“A sin in Allah’s eyes!”
“Then stand perfectly still!”
“Allah commands me to jump up and down!”


5 posted on 06/25/2003 12:14 PM PDT by dead

At that point, if is was me giving the orders, he would look like a piece of Swiss cheeze.
50 posted on 06/25/2003 1:11:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: scotslad
The remaining three battled it out with Iraqi gunmen for two hours before giving up their weapons.

Two hours? Where in the hell was their backup?

51 posted on 06/25/2003 1:14:02 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: scotslad
I hope the Iraqis are happy. No UK or US unit should surrender to an Iraqi mob ever again. They should fight to the death.
52 posted on 06/25/2003 1:15:08 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: tkathy
I wonder if they had to retreat so quickly, that they left their radios and extra ammo behind? Hopefully, some important details will be released.
53 posted on 06/25/2003 1:15:24 PM PDT by Hinoki Cypress
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To: scotslad
Nuke 'em.
54 posted on 06/25/2003 1:18:16 PM PDT by sandydipper (Never quit - never surrender!)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Where in the hell was their backup?

Since the Brits had given up wearing the protective gear, could they have also loosened up security too much?? Heck if I know...a lot of this doesn't make sense at this point. Prayers for the fallen and their families.

Prairie

55 posted on 06/25/2003 1:19:41 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the rest of the world: "We don't want no STINKING PEACE!")
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To: scotslad
OMG!

Send in the SAS and hunt these ba$tards down!

56 posted on 06/25/2003 1:20:01 PM PDT by Dog
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To: scotslad
WHEN WILL THE U.S. AND BRITS DEAL WITH THESE MUSLIM MAGGOTS AS THEY DEAL WITH US? SMASH ALL RESISTANCE. KILL ANYONE WHO SO MUCH AS WINKS. THEN THERE WILL BE CALM.

Amazing how little we have learned from the IDF's experience. Perhaps if we brought the IDF in to crack some heads, things might change.

57 posted on 06/25/2003 1:20:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Jeff Gordon
The combat team sent in on a chopper to rescue them was ambushed and shot down as it raced to the scene.
58 posted on 06/25/2003 1:21:53 PM PDT by Dog
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To: prairiebreeze
See 58 Prairie..
59 posted on 06/25/2003 1:22:45 PM PDT by Dog
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To: prairiebreeze; Jeff Gordon; hchutch; Grampa Dave; section9; Miss Marple
This wasn't just townsfolk upset at heavy handed tactics this was a well planned out operation from start to finish. Time for the SAS to go hunting.
60 posted on 06/25/2003 1:26:14 PM PDT by Dog
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