NEW ZEALAND legalises prostitution

The Press [Christchurch, New Zealand] ^ | June 26 2002

[shaggy eel]

Cheers, tears as prostitution bill passes

26 June 2003

Parliament erupted in cheers last night, as a landmark law to decriminalise prostitution passed by a single vote.

Christchurch MP Tim Barnett's Prostitution Reform Act will become law next Monday and soliciting for sex and brothelkeeping will no longer be illegal in New Zealand from that day.

In one of the closest votes in Parliament's history, the Act passed 60-59, on the abstention of Labour's Muslim MP Ashraf Choudhary.

Had Mr Choudhary, who opposed the bill, not abstained the bill would have fallen because a 60-60 tie is counted as a defeat.

A packed public gallery screamed and cheered as the vote was read out after a tense 10-minute wait. Mr Barnett was mobbed by supporters both in and outside the chamber.

"I think right has won. We have created world-leading law. This is an historic moment. We have completed the unfinished business," a jubilant Mr Barnett told his supporters.

Mr Barnett said he knew the result when ACT MP Heather Roy, who had planned to vote against the bill, walked into the ayes lobby.

"She was the 60th vote."

Key movers included Mr Choudhary, Labour MP Winnie Laban, Ms Roy, and National MP Lockwood Smith.

Prostitutes Collective spokeswoman Catherine Healy thanked the sex workers who had supported a marathon effort to decriminalise prostitution after three years of scrutiny, 415 hours of debate and 222 public submissions.

"I hope there are sex workers out there celebrating tonight as I know they all can," Ms Healy said.

Family Planning Association head Gill Greer said the victory marked the beginning of a new era in prostitution in New Zealand.

"It's going to need a lot of work and a lot of support to change the lot of sex workers in New Zealand," she said.

In the greatest change to New Zealand's sex laws in 100 years, massage parlours will become brothels, and offering sex for money and living off the earnings of a prostitute will become lawful.

Under the new law, brothelkeepers will be subject to health and safety laws and will be required to offer sex workers employment contracts. They will be required to obtain certificates from local courts and may be banned if they hold serious criminal convictions.

Local councils have been handed sweeping new powers to decide where brothels may operate and to control their advertising and signage.

Mr Barnett's bill appeared to be heading for defeat earlier this week, following a sustained attack by opponents which led to the defection of five key National Party MPs.

Prime Minister Helen Clark, a key supporter of the law change who when Minister of Health approved funding for the Prostitutes Collective, made a personal plea to wavering Labour MPs to vote for Mr Barnett's bill.

In an emotionally charged and at times heated debate, reform opponents predicted a rise in organised crime and the degradation of small communities while supporters spoke of new protections for women in an industry characterised by coercion and oppression.

Emotional Labour MP Georgina Beyer, who admitted she burst into tears outside the chamber after her speech, told the House she might have been spared the five years she spent in the sex industry if the bill had been law when she was a teenager.

"I support this bill for all the prostitutes I have known who died before the age of 20 because of a society who in its hypocrisy would not allow them the chance to have their own protection," Ms Beyer said.

"I plead with you in this House who are wavering right up to the wire. This is our one chance in 20 years – please, I beg of you to consider the side I'm on. Please think of the people who may be spared some of the hideous way that society treats us."

In his own final plea before Parliament, Mr Barnett asked MPs to vote to remove "the last significant vestige of Victorian moral law from the New Zealand statute book."

Mr Barnett said the issue was the most significant morale debate in Parliament since homosexual law reform 17 years.

"Each member here has to live with their vote for the rest of their lives. Is disapproval of prostitution best expressed by sustaining bad law or do we make the law as good as we can get it?"

National MP Nick Smith said the law would mean more prostitutes and more harm. He said Mr Barnett was attempting to make sex just another commodity.

"Having sex, Mr Barnett, is not the same as buying a beer or a latte. Sex is special and it should not be for sale."

Dr Smith said ordinary New Zealanders rejected the "anti-family, politically-correct liberal agenda of the Government."

Prostitution was nothing more than paid rape, he said.

United Future MP Larry Baldock said Parliament was passing the cost and responsibility for regulating the sex industry on to local councils.

New Zealand First MP Brent Catchpole predicted a tide of organised crime and said many more women would enter the sex industry under the new law. His colleague, Pita Pareone, said he had seen enough young Maori women ruined by prostitution.

However, Green MP Sue Bradford said the bill aimed to end the very problems opponents were concerned about.

"I have grown entirely sick of the misinformation which has been deliberately circulated in our communities about this bill, making it sound as if the bill itself is causing all these inequities."

ACT MP Stephen Franks said those on both sides of the debate were simply posturing.

[shaggy eel]

Tim Barnett is New Zealand's Barney Frank. He's actually from Britain. Georgina Beyer is New Zealand's first trans-gender politician, but is quite a likeable character. The Family Planning Association equates to Planned Parenthood in the US.

[DonQ]

In New Zealand, this law serves to guard the nation's principal industry: it is intended to protect the sheep.

[JohnnyZ]

"I hope there are sex workers out there celebrating tonight as I know they all can," Ms Healy said.

snicker

[Conspiracy Guy]

ROTFLMAO. I hope they don't allow any smoking in bars.

[bedolido]

Parliament erupted in cheers last night

lol... and where did they go to celebrate?

[ICE-FLYER]

The socialist idiots who make up the vast majority of the government types in this country have brought New Zealand lower than ever. A great place with wonderful people is a whore house!

[Onelifetogive]

Sex is special and it should not be for sale.

Should it be legal to give it away free!

Is it too special even for that?

[Semper Paratus]

"I hope there are sex workers out there celebrating tonight as I know they all can,"

They're out in Wellington and ChristChurch giving away free samples.

[NeoCaveman]

In one of the closest votes in Parliament's history, the Act passed 60-59, on the abstention of Labour's Muslim MP Ashraf Choudhary. Had Mr Choudhary, who opposed the bill, not abstained the bill would have fallen because a 60-60 tie is counted as a defeat.

It's a religion of piece......

[shaggy eel]

FYI

[tkathy]

Prostitution remains the predatory and powerful making money off the young and vulnerable. Rape for money.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

YES! New Zealand should be next year's FReeper cruise!!

[shaggy eel]

lol... and where did they go to celebrate?

,,, you're on to it.

[shaggy eel]

,,, good point.

[Lazamataz]

Hey, ugly people need sex too, y'know!

[Dan from Michigan]

What do you think about this????

[ServesURight]

Prostitution remains the predatory and powerful making money off the young and vulnerable. Rape for money.

No one is forcing young women to do anything. They're doing it on their own free will.

I knew the holier-than-thou FReepers would show up soon.

[Onelifetogive]

Prostitution laws have always bothered me...(NO,not like that!)...I can buy a woman dinner (or a BMW) in the hope that (well, you know), but I can't give her $50 bucks.

[Tall_Texan]

"We have created world-leading law. This is an historic moment."

This poor fellow has no concept of history, does he? If he thinks he's the first politician to rubber stamp prostitution, he's led a sheltered life

I don't doubt that the prostitute lobby wasn't above passing out a few bribes to get this passed.

And why no quotes from the International Brotherhood of Pimps?

[shaggy eel]

,,, LOL! You know the aspect that interests me in this topic? I imagined the femynists would be performing about the government endorsing legalised exploitation of womyn. It isn't happening - and this is a country that is run by matrons and their subserviant vegetarian eunuchs.

[johniegrad]

They'll have to pay GST now. Did that become a consideration for the politicians?

[ErnBatavia]

Georgina?

[Van Jenerette]

.....for class reading.

[Tall_Texan]

YES! New Zealand should be next year's FReeper cruise!!

Not a chance! Why travel some place where we're likely to meet Bill Clinton? Wasn't he bragging he earned $9 mil (U.S.) recently and enjoyed paying taxes? (probably because paying taxes is *new* to him...).

[oceanperch]

It is a split disagreement in our family own wether it should be a legal service.

With one female and the other a male vote in our family it shoud be obvious who voted what.

[shaggy eel]

What do you think about this????

,,, I've never been to a pleasure palace. Never paid for it and never will, so it makes no difference to me. The cops have always turned a blind eye to knock shops as long as they know drugs aren't being fenced thru them.

If you examine this initiative in the wider scope of social justice legislation being pushed thru under our leftist government, it's not a good move in regard to maintaining a decent society. We're a small liberal society but as we get bigger, we're not necessarily getting better.

Legislation going thru at present is aimed to cater for lesbians to be legal fathers. Helen Klark will better explain the need for that than I will.

[knighthawk]

Georgina Beyer is New Zealand's first trans-gender politician

We got legalized prostitution, but still have no trans-gender politician. I guess we have to step up because we fell behind to NZ!

[shaggy eel]

No one is forcing young women to do anything. They're doing it on their own free will.

,,, if you asked them, the bulk would say they know the money's good, but they'd much rather not be doing it.

[shaggy eel]

Prostitution laws have always bothered me...(NO,not like that!)...I can buy a woman dinner (or a BMW) in the hope that (well, you know), but I can't give her $50 bucks.

,,, agreed. that's incongruous.

[shaggy eel]

They'll have to pay GST now. Did that become a consideration for the politicians?

,,, the establishment of a formalised contract etc. will bring the IRD's looking glass over the industry. The government will win on that account. A thought just went thru my mind on depreciation of "plant and equipment"!!!

[Stopislamnow]

I'll second that.

I think there is absolutely no difference between a politician(of any party) and a whore.
Nothing different than a athelete selling his body and performance for millions. Except that sex is taboo due to societal mores, and baseball is the national pastime.
Atheletes risk injury, whores risk social diseases.

Yet one is legal, even admired, while one is a pariah.

My overriding concerns are the health issues involved.

[Dan from Michigan]

"""social justice""'

I hate that term....same with public health...consumer rights...

[Hodar]

,,, if you asked them, the bulk would say they know the money's good, but they'd much rather not be doing it.

You could make exactly the same arguement for just about any job. I'm certain there are more than a few software/hardware engineers, plumbers, technicians, doctors, teachers, ect.... that would rather be doing something else. Fact is, men and women have been doing this since man learned to walk upright. Sometimes the price is 3 dinners and movies; sometimes just a few drinks, and even sometimes it's free. At least Prostitution is honest.

[freeeee]

if you asked them, the bulk would say they know the money's good, but they'd much rather not be doing it.

And that differs from other jobs in what way....

[Onelifetogive]

,,, if you asked them, the bulk would say they know the money's good, but they'd much rather not be doing it.

I'd say the same thing about Information Systems Consulting!

[shaggy eel]

,,, that's Georgina Beyer. Her background has afforded her a singularly rounded look at life that she's brought to Parliament. She was also mayor of a sleepy little Wairarapa town called Carterton. She turned that town around and the people hold her in high regard. I would never vote for her bacause she's Labour, but I hold "her" in quite a high regard because of her sense of humour and positive outlook.

[ChadGore]

Congrdulations New Zealand . . now at least the sheep will have a "living wage".

[Onelifetogive]

My overriding concerns are the health issues involved.

Like torn rotator cuffs and damaged ACL's?

[adam_az]

Prostitution laws have always bothered me...(NO,not like that!)...I can buy a woman dinner (or a BMW) in the hope that (well, you know), but I can't give her $50 bucks.

Maybe you should offer another $150? ;)

[shaggy eel]

"""social justice""' I hate that term....same with public health...consumer rights...

,,, that's why I put it in italics. I wouldn't use it myself, so that sort of highlighted it.

[SevenDaysInMay]

A thought: HAMAS translates as ZEAL.

A question: How does a hooker kick back and celebrate?

A forecast: The Islamists' Sharia will repeal this act, and stone to death those who voted for it among the fornicators, male and female. But killing the girls is the fun part of Islam.

[bedolido]

true... to a point. There is no product in question when you purchase your lady friend dinner, or a BMW, if she wants to enjoy a special time with you, she can and will.

Purchasing a female body part for your use for a short period of time is not the same. In one you haven't bought her, you've bought her dinner. In the other, you've bought a few inches of her anatomy for temporary pleasure.

demeaning... yes.

[EggsAckley]

Didn't New Zealand just ban cow farts??

[Onelifetogive]

Maybe you should offer another $150? ;)

If you had seen her, you would have thought $50 was high....

[bedolido]

Didn't New Zealand just ban cow farts??

Methane expressing may be illegal. Bovine Methane is sometimes released during cow-tipping parties.

[spitz]

Does this mean NZ will reinstate the ‘ Whore house of the South Pacific’ label it once had? Hehe.

[Cicero]

I'm curious about this fellow Ashraf Choudhary. It's not really true that he "opposed the bill," as the article states, or he would have voted against it. Also, is he a Muslim, as this article says? I know several Chaudherys and Choudharys, and they are Indians of Sikh extraction. That doesn't necessarily mean that this one is, of course.

Did the Labour whip refuse to release party members to vote their consciences on this? It seems a very curious bill for the party to take that kind of approach to. Normally it's only done on really important bills, budgets and the like.

[Onelifetogive]

Purchasing a female body part for your use for a short period of time is not the same.

Like the hands of a chiropractor. Can't allow that! My chiropractor can exchange dinner for an adjustment, but shouldn't do it for cash?

[freeeee]

In one you haven't bought her, you've bought her dinner. In the other, you've bought a few inches of her anatomy for temporary pleasure.

No one buys prostitutes. If they did, they'd own them after the fact. / painfully obvious

One pays a prostitute for services in the same way they'd pay a message therapist or a chiropractor.

[Onelifetogive]

Purchasing a female body part for your use for a short period of time is not the same.

Like the hands of a chiropractor. Can't allow that! My chiropractor can exchange dinner for an adjustment, but shouldn't do it for cash?