Reprimands and Consequences at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University

Liberty University ^ | 6/2003 | Liberty University

[strela]

Involvement with witchcraft, seances or other satanic or demonic activity

No Harry Potter in their library, whot?

[Theo]

When Michelangelo was an active gay man, was he working for a stronger church?

Bach wrote commissioned music, sucking up to one of his main customers (one which could break him like a twig).

Aquinas was a typical example of what one could do in the twisty world of manufactured medeival Catholic theology, so he doesn't count.

DaVinci would count, but he wasn't particularly churchy, so that example is gone.

I could provide additional examples of creative Christians, but I don't have the heart to play your game. If you're willing, the Lord can change your hateful, sarcastic heart.

[AlaskaErik]

Most of you should be glad that Dr. Falwell didn't consult me first. I probably would have ix-nayed sleeveless garments, period. Cover those armpits!! ; )

Well, if he had consulted with me, they'd be wearing minis, see-through blouses and tight fitting jean, tops and dresses!

[Theo]

Even if you can find individual atheists who have contributed to this world in a positive way ...

You making an underhand reference to Chancellor and Mineral?

:-)

[AlaskaErik]

Perhaps to demonstrate just how bizarre and out of touch Falwell and his institutions are. Having read this, I'd think twice before putting any graduate of this institution in a position of authority over others. Legalism bites, is non-Biblical, and smacks of tyranny.

It's probably just like anywhere else. A few believe in the rules and even abide by them, but most just roll their eyes and do what they have to to get by. And they can be found partying and fornicating (their term, not mine) on weekends.

[Tamar1973]

Their time under strict regulation has led to rebellion, not maturity.

I would disagree. It wasn't the "strict regulation" that made them alcohol imbibers, it was the unchristly condition of their hearts that lead them to the bar scene.

I would say that after 4 years of LU, they simply didn't want to pretend to be christians anymore. They were just showing the true selves that they hid from the LU administration.

[bluecollarman]

The Quote from mineral man was this:

"It's simple. Authoritarian leadership is useless where innovation and creativity are required."

That statement is false, and yes, Di Vinci would apply.

The issue at hand is whether the leadership prohibited, or was usless in producing creativity.

By you own arguments you have affirmed that the institution of the chuch and its leadership resulted in the work product achieved.

So they were not usless. The statement is false.

[sitetest]

Dear SoDak,

"'Possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages'

"I broke this one the first night after freshman orientation."

Where I went to school, this wasn't against the rules. In fact, the school paid for the beer and wine at freshman orientation.

But that was a little bit of a time ago.


sitetest

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I don't have the heart to play your game.

Reality does suck, doesn't it?

If you're willing, the Lord can change your hateful, sarcastic heart.

Nah - I kinda like me the way I am, sentience intact.

[rwfromkansas]

Legalism is a view that includes all sorts of little regulations and is basically a kind of works righteousness.

[AlaskaErik]

Christian women should not dress to be sexually stimulating to the opposite sex.

Obviously you've never been to a church on Sunday morning. Pick any one in your area, go there next Sunday, and look at how the women dress. It's a total turn-on for any red-blooded male.

[bluecollarman]

Wrong poster. I did not write that...I like pretty women.

[rwfromkansas]

Brilliant man. That was brilliant.

[Tamar1973]

Even if you can find individual atheists who have contributed to this world in a positive way ... You making an underhand reference to Chancellor and Mineral?

Well, yeah, I suppose so. Anyone who's fiscally conservative can't be all bad, y'know. But I specifically had Stephen Hawking in mind when I made that comment.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

DaVinci would have been DaVinci in any age. Luckily, he escaped persecution, and overcame notions of the ludditism favored by the PTB of the Church and State.

[Tamar1973]

Obviously you've never been to a church on Sunday morning. Pick any one in your area, go there next Sunday, and look at how the women dress. It's a total turn-on for any red-blooded male.

Unfortunately, you are right. Churches don't enforce their own standards anymore because they are afraid of being considered "legalistic".

[Tamar1973]

Obviously you've never been to a church on Sunday morning. Pick any one in your area, go there next Sunday, and look at how the women dress. It's a total turn-on for any red-blooded male.

Unfortunately, you are right. Churches don't enforce their own standards anymore because they are afraid of being considered "legalistic".

[rwfromkansas]

I attend a private Christian college, one that is pretty darn conservative.

The rules at Liberty are ridiculous.

Basic ones like no swearing, no having sex, no sleeping in a female's room overnight, are reasonable and are the main rules at my institution. We don't even have a curfew and I like that. Most of the kids are responsible enough they can handle not having a curfew. I like that when I am up late studying, I can run to Coastal at 3 a.m. if I want to.

But Liberty goes way beyond this and the fines are ridiculous.

[rwfromkansas]

Also, the restrictions on displays of affection (you can't even give a kiss on the cheek???) are just asinine.

At my college, such rigid rules are not in place.