Posted on 06/25/2003 7:28:42 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
Click here to see Google NEWS Search for "Lester Maddox" as a phrase and the word "democrat" Note that while 63 hits are reported, when similarities are removed (eg., multiple hits because an Associated Press article appears in amny papers), it just two different articles. Go to the search box on that page and remove "+democrat" and the number jumps to 358 and there is not a lot of similarities, they're different article. Look at the bottomm and you'll see it says there is nine pages of hits. THE LIBERAL MEDIA DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE AX HAND SWINGING RACIST WHO USED VIOLENCE TO KEEP BLACL PEOPLE OUT OF IS RESTAURANT IS A DEMOCRAT!!!!
But did this need it's own thread?
If you'd grown up in the South during the late 1950s and 1960s ... as I did ... you'd understand this.
But the thing is, of the folks from that era who are still involved in politics ... not so much on the national level like the Senate, where you have Byrd, Hollings, etc., but on the local and state level ... an awful lot of them switched to the GOP (like George Wallace Jr., FYI). And need I point out that Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms were once Democrats and switched to the GOP?
Bottom line, by all means let's use ever weapon at our disposal to hammer the Dems ... but let's make sure they're relevant and put them in context and consider all the factors.
Absolutely deserves it's own thread because it exposes the Underground Democrat Racists. They seek the safety of darkness, but every once and a while, they slip up and express their true racist beliefs.
Robert Byrd, with his own words, confesses to being a racist. On a Sunday news show he stated that there were "white niggers too" and that he knew "a lot of white niggers". Funny how he was only talking about some white people. White people who acted like what? Well Robert Byrd believes is a type of person called "nigger". Do we know anyone who uses the word "nigger" in earnest that doesn't believe it means all black people? Is there any black person that hears the word "nigger" and says, "They can't be talking about me..."
"Old Sheets" bared his racist soul on national TV and the liberal media give him journalistic absolution. And Hillary Clinton on arrival to the Senate seeks out Byrd for his advice and describes him as a mentor.
Yeah, this one does deserve it's own thread.
As for Helms, I don't know his history as well.
And the Democrats still use that lie to buy votes with hate. They'll stand in the pulpit of a house of God in a black community and blame "the right wing" for burning black churches. Well under the Clinton administration, a multi-agency task force headed by BATF called the "National Church Arson Task Force" looked into "burning black churches". Hell those agencies were run by CLINTON'S APPOINTEES and still they couldn't find this epidemic of "burning black churches". The Democrats lied to create hate between the races so as to gather votes for themselves. How noble.
The reports of the "National Church Arson Task Force" are available on the web. Any reporter who has the good work habits and an investigative spirit would have a great news story comparing Clinton and Gore's statements against the task forces finding. Do I think that will happen? No, not unless Matt Drudge does it. That's why he's a millionaire, and few reporters are, he works harder and has higher standards.
A typical taunt from a liberal at our protests is "redneck", which PROVES LIBERALS ARE BIGOTS. What is a bigot, it's someone who applies a stereotype (positive or negative but usually negative) to all members of a group. "Redneck" according to the dictionary is a derogatory term for poor rural southernerns, as I was born, raised and live in Philadelphia (above the Mason-Dixon) those liberals ARE bigots. Since black people can also be poor in the rural south, I conclude that those liberals are not only BIGOTS, but pretty dumb BIGOTS because they are using a term that according to the definition would include poor rural blacks as well.
To reiterate, I'm not taking all Southetrners to task, just the subset of RACIST DEMOCRATS.
Does that meet with your approval now?
Hey at least get the story straight. He didn't wield an axe
Maddox gained national attention in 1964 when he brandished a pistol and chased black protesters from his Pickrick restaurant the day after the Civil Rights Act was signed into law.He wielded a pistol. And you have something wrong with freedom of association do you? So according to you, it was wrong of Gov. Maddox to refuse to serve someone in his private establishment that he didn't want to? Heck, we better make sure we're down protesting with the feminazis next year at the Masters then!! What kind of sign do you want me to have them save for you?Whites from his restaurant chased the protesters with pick handles. Maddox closed and then sold the Pickrick rather than serve blacks. He would adopt the pick handle as his political symbol during his gubernatorial campaign and thereafter, and sold souvenir picks and axes.
Mind you, I don't agree with racism, but then again I don't agree with the national government setting quotas
Me!
However, I grew up in another place and time before 1984 and the invention of "NewSpeak" and the concept of "Thought Crimes." When I was growing up, we considered George Orwell's 1984 as a warning and something to be horrified about.
How dare you attack someone like Lester Maddox or even Robert Byrd, who grew up in another place and time!
They would only be "guilty" if they violated the accepted social norms of that time and place.
Lester Maddox wasn't a racist, but I don't expect you to understand or believe that.
Yes, unbelievably I imagine for you, right here in the South. Applied to both black and white and actually from the mouths of some well educated black people
He was slimed by the NY Times and all the other liberal media and you fell for it.
As they say..."Don't believe what you read in the newspapers."
It was so funny as they were knocked back on their heels by people calling up. The first few they discounted, but as people persisted and cited figures and names, all they could cite was "well LBJ introduced it and he was a Democrat." Well the Presdient introduces no bill in Congress and they should read Ronald Kessler's book "Inside the White House". In that book, a USAF serviceman, serving as a Steward on Air Force one describes how Presidents sometimes forget the staff is there. On page 33 of the paperback, at the bottom, he qoutes LBJ being candid with two Southern Governors (DEMOCRATS) about why the civil rights act, "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for two hundred years." Kessler's book is still around, he's in the phone book and his website is ronaldkessler.com in case you'd like to verify that quote.
The liberals love to play the race card, so as Kevin Martin of the African American Republican Leadership Council said to Alan Colmes, "OK Alan, you liberals want to play always play the race card, let's play the race card". Let's set the record straight every chance we can, because they're lying every chance they get.
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1967-1971: As governor, Maddox surprises many by appointing more blacks to state boards and commissions than all prior governors combined. He named 38 blacks to local draft boards at a time when only two had ever been appointed before and named the first black member to the Board of Pardons and Paroles. He also opened the governor's office to ordinary Georgians, meeting with them on weekly "Little People's Days".
That was a common practice when I was growing up.
You were very careful to distinquish between "colored folks" and N-words.
One of the reasons I didn't take off on Byrd for the Russert interview....I knew exactly what he was saying.
(Poor taste and a cop out, though it was)
BTW....Lester Maddox would be called a Libertarian these days.
Think 1930s and 1940s, people going to ovens and it is the accepted social norm. You want to defend that with that arguement?
You were very careful to distinquish between "colored folks" and N-words.
One of the reasons I didn't take off on Byrd for the Russert interview....I knew exactly what he was saying.
Yes, when and where I grew up as well.
And that Lester Maddox was something that he was not.
I understand your point and it's valid, but you've picked the wrong man to tee off on.
He had a "Pickering" done on him.
I am sorry, a "Good Person" died today and I am feeling his loss tonight.
Those that are attacking the memory of Lester Maddox tonight are free to express their views.
I can express my respect tonight for a honored person also.
Hitler like dogs, little children and art. None of which is enough to make me forget what were his defining characteristics.
I was around 6 years old (making it around 1958) and I learned my lesson well, LOL)
Again, you would have to have been in the South in that era to understand what was going on and to understand the people and the personalties and the mindset, and again, comparing those Democrats to today's Democrats is utterly and completely silly. The only thing they share is the name "Democrat."
And I'll toss this out to you. If you think that race did not play a part in the rise of the GOP in the South ... the rise that basically was responsible for the election of the three GOP presidents who've been elected since 1980 ... you are sadly naive. Because those folks certainly didn't switch to the GOP because of esoteric stuff like tax and economic policy. Again, I am there. I know. I know for a fact.
Now I'm certainly not willing to give all those votes back, and I certainly don't want the Democratic Solid South to return ... but what shifted those votes over is a cross that, to some extent, we are going to have to bear, and it's always going to be there for the libs to beat us over the head with if they get a chance.
Dear friend, I do not quite understand what it is you are trying to express tonight.
Thirty years from today, the laws and social norms may change.
When you die, people may be telling horrible stories about how you had a Dog or Cat as a slave!
I judge a person on how well they used their abilities to alter the world and make it a little better when they are no longer around.
To me, Gov. Lester Maddox did make my world a little better because of him.
Sorry, I did not realize that Gov. Lester Maddox had died 10 years ago!
Yes, it is breaking news!
It means "White Trash" ....but in even stronger terms.
Yep, same thing happened at our house. That word was not allowed, in any context.
Dont get too proud about the civil rights record. These racist Democrats that you proudly attack mostly switched over and became Republicans after the civil rights law passage. Throughtout the seventies, those that remained Democrats were generally voting with the Republicans on issues of interest to conservatives.
Also keep in mind that Mr Conservative, Barry Goldwater, was deadset against the Civil Rights act. Also most conservative movement organizations such as Young Americans for Freedom and conservative publications of the time such as Human Events and I think National Review, were solidly against passage. Those you hold up to praise would be attacked today as "Country Club Republicans" ... think of that sleezeball from Pennsylvania.
Absolutely, because the Democrats have portrayed themselves as "protectors" of minorities, defending them against the "racist Republicans" and it works.
And you know what's VERY EFFECTIVE, calling them on just these kinds of things.
At a recent protest at a Hillary signing, the highwater mark for the otherside were some spirited calls of "Redneck" and "racist" against us. They were really, really into it. All I had to say in reply was, "The white racist governor of Alabama who stood in the school house door to stop black children from going to school with white children was named George Wallace.....a Democrat." I repeated that with Lester Maddos of Georgia and noted the only member of Congress with a KKK past was Robert Byrd. The response was absolute silence. Not one word. No one questioned the veracity of my statements. It was obvious that they didn't know that information. Seconds before they were all reved up and foaming at the mouth and then they stood there with eyes downcast.
It's the truth and against lies, it's very effective. Why? Because they have been conditioned that the other guy never lives up to his own rules and they use that to attack people. Well we are pointing out where one of their core beliefs is full of holes.
He was.
In his on little way he was "John Galt". He told the Feds and the Jesse Jacksons of their day that he would shut his business down before he groveled at their feet.
And he did.
(Unfortunately that put all his black kitchen help out of jobs, but hey...the liberals were helping them, don'cha know)
If you had ever visited Underground Atlanta and personally talked to this man, you would understand.
This is like going to your local Mall and talking to former President George H. W. Bush, as he is selling fishing equipment in his store. You sit in the store and just talk to him as a friend.
To just sit back and listen to ignorant people attacking this wonderful human tonight....
That sounds like the absolute BS that the Underground Democrat Racists spout. That the Dixiecrats were somehow Republicans. In fact, all started off as Democrats, and went back to being Democrats after the Dixiecrats folded. But you'll see over and over on the liberal boards that the Dixiecrats were Republicans. Only one became a Republican and that was over a decade later.
Sadly, I call my own daughter "White Trash" today. But that is another long story.
You are correct, that is a correct application of the word.
Name the Dixiecrats that became Republicans. Now remember, I do have the books "Dixiecrats and Democrats" and "The Dixiecrat Revolt" right here.
Basically, I get the impression that you're at war and anything goes in the fighting of that war, whether it's in context or not. I'm not willing to go there. More power to you as you storm the barricades.
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