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Gays Overjoyed, Conservatives Despair Over Sodomy Ruling (Mega-barf ALERT)
Associated Press ^ | 06-26-03

Posted on 06/26/2003 5:44:54 PM PDT by Brian S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In a gesture of gratitude for the Supreme Court's decision Thursday striking down a Texas anti-sodomy law, gay-rights activists lowered the huge rainbow flag that always flies over the city's Castro District and hoisted the Stars and Stripes in its place.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: activistcourt; activistsupremecourt; cutlurewar; downourthroats; druglaws; homosexualagenda; incestlaws; lawrencevtexas; notconsentingadults; privacylaws; prostitutionlaws; samesexdisorder; sodomylaws
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1 posted on 06/26/2003 5:44:55 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
But Ruth Harlow, who argued the case before the Supreme Court as legal director of Lambda Legal, said the court was merely "catching up" with public opinion.

It is not the court's job to catch up with public opinion. That is the job of the legislature. If public opinion in Texas support this, the law would not have existed. This is unbelievably flawed reasoning. Sadly, 6 members of the Supremes agreed.

The only thing the sodomy gang and conservatives agree on is that this ruling is a huge and far-reaching win for them.

3 posted on 06/26/2003 5:49:36 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Brian S
Looks like another AIDS crisis is on it's way...
4 posted on 06/26/2003 5:50:02 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Brian S
Sad!:^{
5 posted on 06/26/2003 5:50:22 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: Brian S
Is this "Sodomy Select" since it was brought to us by that same biased court that "selected" GW Bush as President? I thought liberals didn't have any respect for the Supreme court!!!
6 posted on 06/26/2003 5:51:59 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: RAT Patrol
I highly doubt this is "public opinion" across most of the country! In fact, I am positive it is not! What lies.
7 posted on 06/26/2003 5:53:17 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: Brian S
I don't care what they do in their own homes, and I fail to see why the government should either. The only possible issue is that gays have this doubletalk about HIV and AIDS: they say it isn't a gay disease, yet the say that Bush is trying to kill them by not providing as much funding for the search for cures as they would like. As long as the amount of funding for HIV and AIDS doesn't get overblown (i.e. it should remain in proportion the the amount of Americans that have it - these guys also pay taxes, so they should get something for their money), it's none of my business.
8 posted on 06/26/2003 5:57:14 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: Brian S
Georgians later repealed that law . . .

Wrong. Our state Supreme Court threw it out. That court was given to us by the Democratic governors whose line just ended here with the last election.

9 posted on 06/26/2003 5:57:34 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Brian S
In a gesture of gratitude for the Supreme Court's decision Thursday striking down a Texas anti-sodomy law, gay-rights activists lowered the huge rainbow flag that always flies over the city's Castro District and hoisted the Stars and Stripes in its place.

Wonder if it's legal to burn a rainbow flag?

10 posted on 06/26/2003 5:58:18 PM PDT by DaBroasta (GRID will eventually cure homosexuality)
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To: psychoknk
As long as the amount of funding for HIV and AIDS doesn't get overblown (i.e. it should remain in proportion the the amount of Americans that have it - these guys also pay taxes, so they should get something for their money), it's none of my business.

Too late, it already gets 20 times what cancer research is getting.

12 posted on 06/26/2003 5:59:39 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: caisson71
Conservatives shouldn't despair. They
should just buy another box of ammo.


Why buy ammo?  What do you expect to happen?
13 posted on 06/26/2003 6:01:02 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Brian S
Gay advocacy groups from Alaska to Florida planned to celebrate into the night.

Deviant sex alert.

14 posted on 06/26/2003 6:01:48 PM PDT by BeerSwillr
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To: Brian S; RJayneJ
"The high court's 6-3 decision overturned not only the Texas statute but apparently swept away laws in a dozen other states that ban oral and anal sex for everyone, or for homosexuals in particular."

Per the title for this thread, *why* should Conservatives despair?

The Supreme Court just ruled that *government* doesn't have the Constitutional authority to ban, tax, or regulate certain activities inside our private bedrooms.

Isn't that what Conservatives want: more restrictions on *government* authority?

Frankly, leftists can cheer and conservatives can jeer or despair, but I'd call this ruling a stealth victory for reigning in the power and scope of the federal government.

The precedent set in this case could *easily* be applied to a number of other areas in which government should be prohibited from regulating.

How can the government justify regulating my love of guns in my bedroom now, for instance?!

15 posted on 06/26/2003 6:02:22 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: psychoknk
As long as the amount of funding for HIV and AIDS doesn't get overblown (i.e. it should remain in proportion the the amount of Americans that have it - these guys also pay taxes, so they should get something for their money), it's none of my business.

AIDS funding is already overblown. More money goes to AIDS research and treatment than 11 other diseases that kill more Americans than AIDS every year.

16 posted on 06/26/2003 6:02:28 PM PDT by DaBroasta (GRID will eventually cure homosexuality)
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To: Brian S
Another win for the patron cause of liberalism: sodomy!
17 posted on 06/26/2003 6:04:20 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Brian S
I wonder how many freaks will celibrate my taking it up the a** tonight !
18 posted on 06/26/2003 6:04:33 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Live from the ladies room here at Tubbys DriveIn.)
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To: DaBroasta
Wonder if it's legal to burn a rainbow flag?

That would be a HATE CRIME.

ANY disagreement with the Cult Of The Anus is considered a HATE CRIME. After all, they are a protected class with SPECIAL RIGHTS.
19 posted on 06/26/2003 6:05:51 PM PDT by pyx
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To: Southack
How can the government justify regulating my love of guns in my bedroom now, for instance?!

I still think it should be illegal to have kinky sex with your guns... :)

20 posted on 06/26/2003 6:07:13 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Newbomb Turk
I wonder how many freaks will celibrate my taking it up the a** tonight !

You're taking it up the a** tonight?

21 posted on 06/26/2003 6:07:31 PM PDT by zoyd (My nameplate medallion says "Never Trust A HAL 9000")
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To: pyx
Cult Of The Anus

ROTFLM_O

22 posted on 06/26/2003 6:08:19 PM PDT by DaBroasta (GRID will eventually cure homosexuality)
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To: AmericaUnited


>>Looks like another AIDS crisis is on it's way...
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So this law stopped homo sex?

Understand, I think this behavior is absolutely disgusting, but this law should have never been enacted and I don't recall that it was ever enforced. What is the big deal?

Homos in Texas stopped boffing each other cuz it was against the law? Heh. SURRE.

-Mal
23 posted on 06/26/2003 6:08:22 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: zoyd
[Newbomb Tur is] taking it up the a** tonight?

Why are you concerned? Isn't your home large enough for visitors?

24 posted on 06/26/2003 6:10:00 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Southack
The precedent set in this case could *easily* be applied to a number of other areas in which government should be prohibited from regulating.

And of course we all know MOMMYMENT never selectively enforces regulations against groups it deems are unpopular. Nope... never !
25 posted on 06/26/2003 6:10:54 PM PDT by pyx
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To: Kevin Curry
Why are you concerned? Isn't your home large enough for visitors?

Ah ha, Kevin! Good one! Insinuate my sexuality! That's pretty adult behavior, KC.

No, I thought it was strange that someone who so despises gay sex would ponder about it far more than people who really don't care (this is assuming he meant to say "BY" instead of "MY").

Any more exciting, pithy commentary, KC?

26 posted on 06/26/2003 6:12:08 PM PDT by zoyd (My nameplate medallion says "Never Trust A HAL 9000")
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To: TIMLEIBY
I agree. Unless the roll-over Republican Congress finds its lost principles and passes a Constitutional Marriage Amendment, gay marriage is a done deal.
27 posted on 06/26/2003 6:12:10 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Brian S
What the Supreme Court did was it read the provision of the Constitution relating to Constitutional Amendments out of the Constitution. Apparently, the Supreme Court can now change the Constitution to say whatever it wants it to say at any given moment in time. In order words, the Justices have appointed themselves dictators.
28 posted on 06/26/2003 6:12:41 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Malsua
So this law stopped homo sex?

No, I meant that now there would be some exuberant celebrating, causing another "flareup".

29 posted on 06/26/2003 6:15:45 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: RAT Patrol
that is indeed what is will take.

But on the flip side, the 13 states that still have these laws should have gotten rid of them years ago. And arresting those two men, the case that started this, was insane. It gave the powerful gay legal rights organizations a case to use to start implementing their full agenda through the courts, and they have won round one, and will now use the courts to go after adoption & marriage rights.
30 posted on 06/26/2003 6:17:20 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: pyx
Yes, I know this is a little off topic but wondering why we have to be bombarded with gay rights issues contantly.
Our local news channels recently gave very big coverage to gay pride parade in Hollywood. I have two questions, why do gays need to have a parade and if they do, does it warrant news coverage? Gay,straight, I don't care, but do I have to hear about it non stop?
31 posted on 06/26/2003 6:17:26 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: zoyd
Why do homosexualists use an accusation of homosexualism as a put down on anyone who opposes their Homo-Juggernaut if there is nothing wrong with being a homosexualist as they claim ?

Of course any five year old knows not to play with his own or other's poop because its dangerous. Oddly, the Supreme Court doesn't understand this with their insistance on decimating the 10th Amendment.
32 posted on 06/26/2003 6:18:48 PM PDT by pyx
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
simple answer: the industries that control, produce, and provide US media, are heavily staffed by gays. That is where they work. They are of course free to hold those jobs, but that is the answer to why we constantly "hear about it".
33 posted on 06/26/2003 6:20:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
I agree about arresting the two men. I highly suspect that the whole thing was staged from start to finish, including the arrest.
34 posted on 06/26/2003 6:22:05 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
Gay,straight, I don't care, but do I have to hear about it non stop?

Homosexuals can't procreate they must recruit.

35 posted on 06/26/2003 6:23:31 PM PDT by DaBroasta (GRID will eventually cure homosexuality)
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To: pyx
Why do homosexualists use an accusation of homosexualism as a put down on anyone who opposes their Homo-Juggernaut if there is nothing wrong with being a homosexualist as they claim ?

First off, I don't know what a homosexualist is, precisely, but I'll entertain your question. People who 'oppose the Homo-Juggernaut' get offended when you suggest that THEY'RE homosexual. That's why.

36 posted on 06/26/2003 6:23:43 PM PDT by zoyd (My nameplate medallion says "Never Trust A HAL 9000")
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To: oceanview
I agree completely. You are so right.
37 posted on 06/26/2003 6:25:04 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: AmericaUnited
No, I meant that now there would be some exuberant celebrating, causing another "flareup".

Well...I can buy into that. It's a meaningless celebration. They have nothing more than they did before

-Mal
38 posted on 06/26/2003 6:28:01 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: RAT Patrol
Agree, heard someone on Chris Matthews show tonight say that the men continued what they were doing after the police had come in? Is that true? If so, this was all a set up and they got what they wanted with the ruling today.
39 posted on 06/26/2003 6:28:41 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: psychoknk
"As long as the amount of funding for HIV and AIDS doesn't get overblown..."

It already is; spending is disproportionate to the statistics. Also, you should have added a "no pun intended" to your use of the word "overblown"..........

40 posted on 06/26/2003 6:28:42 PM PDT by yooper
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
why we have to be bombarded with gay rights issues contantly.

Because the Homosexualist Lobby (AKA The Cult Of The Anus) insist that you affirm their particular coupling methodology that identifies their very existance. In other words, because they jam a man's penis into the anus of some other man, that in of itself is what identifies their very reason for existance. Its a form of dominaton and submission. (In some primitive warring cultures it was used as a means of humiliation and to establish a heirarchy.) And by insisting that you and your pre-teen children fully understand every detail of their coupling methodologies, they indirectly get to dominate (or if you wish, to ideologically sodomize) you.

Their apparachiks in the LEFTIST media are only too happy to metaphorically hold you down while you are gang-banged nightly by the LEFT on the tee vee and local radio.

Of course you are expected to shut the hell up and take it because that's exactly what you have done thus far. The LEFT knows you will be compliant because you have been compliant during previous @$$rimmings.
41 posted on 06/26/2003 6:31:36 PM PDT by pyx
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
Exactly. You tell me that if the police were beating down your door you'd continue. Conservatives need to get with the new program. Courts are the way to go. Sue your way to victory. Who needs legislatures? Save money and get rid of 'em.
42 posted on 06/26/2003 6:32:36 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: psychoknk
that's not what this case was about, and its not really about the sodomy laws either. Its about adoption, gay marriage, the ability to legally teach the lifestyle in the public schools, etc. Things like the ability to have legal wills, or health care proxies, those are chicken feed. Keep your eye on the big three: adoption, marriage, schools.
43 posted on 06/26/2003 6:34:11 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: RAT Patrol
I don't want us to play the lefts game of let's sue everybody, but I would love our leaders to speak out much more forcefully on the complete hyprocrasy of the other side.
44 posted on 06/26/2003 6:48:43 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: pyx
Wow! Great post.
45 posted on 06/26/2003 6:50:59 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: AmericaUnited
look for the std spike in 6 months
46 posted on 06/26/2003 6:52:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: psychoknk
it a decision that should have been made at the state level not the supreme court. This is a state legislation. Its not about homsexual soddomy its about the origins of legislation.
47 posted on 06/26/2003 6:55:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Southack
I concur. What passes for 'Conservatism' around here, is more often and more accurately called Fundamentalist Theocracy.
48 posted on 06/26/2003 6:55:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Brian S
Homosexuality:

Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals: 1) subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants; 2) are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large; 3) are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population; 4) molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals; 5) engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event; 6) are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination “vehicle” and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation; 7) view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.

The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals shall not be confused with the deficiencies associated with the left wing democrat/socialist/Marxist/ feminist/environmentalists, etc., mind, which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

49 posted on 06/26/2003 6:56:07 PM PDT by Imagine
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To: Lazamataz
I concur. What passes for 'Conservatism' around here, is more often and more accurately called Fundamentalist Theocracy

I dissent, the reasoning in the majority opinion does away with the necessity for legislatures, legislators and states.

Applauding this opinion is like giving a tip to the executioner. Judicial activism at it's all time worst.

50 posted on 06/26/2003 6:57:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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