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LACI'S 'KILLER' HUBBY UNCORKS NEW WHINE
The NY Post ^ | June 27, 2003 | Howard Breuer

Posted on 06/27/2003 5:30:50 AM PDT by runningbear

LACI'S 'KILLER' HUBBY UNCORKS NEW WHINE

LACI'S 'KILLER' HUBBY UNCORKS NEW WHINE

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June 27, 2003 -- MODESTO, Calif. - A cocky Scott Peterson took a verbal swipe at prosecutors yesterday, blaming them for delays in his double-murder trial that won't begin for several more months.

Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami set Peterson's preliminary hearing for Sept. 9, pushing it back from its originally scheduled date of July 16.

Peterson, 30, and his lawyer Mark Geragos complained that prosecutors are too slow to turn over evidence. When Girolami procedurally asked Peterson if he agreed to the delay, the accused killer seized his chance to pop off.

"I think we're forced to [delay the preliminary hearing] without the information coming from the prosecution," sniped Peterson, who wore a tan suit and short haircut to court yesterday. "It's not my wish, but yes [to the delay to Sept. 9]."

Peterson is accused of killing his wife Laci Peterson, who vanished on Christmas Eve, and their unborn son Connor. Howard Breuer

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((my comments: what a stupid moron scaughty is!!))

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Police talk to 4 women who live near Petersons' home about murder case

Police talk to 4 women who live near Petersons' home about murder case

By GARTH STAPLEY

BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 26, 2003, 07:33:05 AM PDT

Police last week contacted two women living in Laci Peterson's neighborhood who also were pregnant with their first babies Christmas Eve.

Like Laci Peterson, both have dark brown hair and regularly walked their dogs -- but neither did that day, they said.

Two other women, also neighbors, say Scott Peterson contacted them on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as he spread the word about his missing wife. They also told their stories to police.

One said Peterson cried, and she hugged him to show support. But she said she since has wondered if they were tears of sorrow or guilt.

The other woman said Peterson appeared wracked with anxiety as he let another man do the talking.

Police spokesman Doug Ridenour, citing a court-imposed gag order, refused to comment Wednesday.

Scott Peterson has been charged in the deaths of his wife and their unborn son, Conner. He faces the death penalty if convicted.

Three of the women -- Leslie Streeter, Janet Kenworthy and Joan Barnett Lee -- work in various departments at The Bee. The fourth, Jill Lear, is employed by a private social services company.

The women's accounts could play a part in court if attorneys bring up reports by people who said they saw Laci Peterson walking her dog the day her family reported her missing.

Scott Peterson told police he left their Covena Avenue home about 9:30 a.m. to go fishing in San Francisco Bay, and that his wife had planned to walk their dog in nearby East La Loma Park. A neighbor found the golden retriever less than an hour later, its muddy leash attached, and returned it to the Petersons' yard.

The bodies of mother and fetus washed up along the bay in mid-April. Police arrested Scott Peterson a few days later.

Streeter said Scott Peterson and another man came to her door between 7 and 8 p.m. Christmas Eve. She didn't know Brent Rocha, Laci Peterson's brother, at the time, but figured he was the other man after seeing numerous reports about the case.

A Rocha family spokeswoman said family members would not comment because the gag order extends to witnesses and potential witnesses.

"Scott didn't say anything," Streeter recalled. "He just stood there; he looked kind of stressed out."

The other man explained that they were looking for the woman in the picture, Streeter said. She said Scott Peterson was in the picture as well.

"After about an hour, we heard search planes going over the park," she said. "That's when we knew something was terribly amiss."

Streeter called police the next day, more to offer help than to report the encounter, she said, and an officer called back to take a statement.

Encounter in the park

The next day -- Christmas -- Kenworthy happened upon Scott Peterson as both walked their dogs in the park, where authorities and volunteers already were searching.

"He reaches in his coat, pulls out a flier and says, 'My wife's missing,'" Kenworthy recalled. "He about broke down in front of me. I did see tears, retain-your-composure efforts."

Kenworthy was especially touched, she said, to learn that the missing woman was pregnant. She said she gave Peterson a hug.

"I would have sworn at that time that he was innocent," Kenworthy said.

A police investigator tracked down Kenworthy last week and asked questions about her dog-walking routine. She has a white husky named Aroo; the Petersons' dog, McKenzie, is a golden retriever.

"I think there is so much pressure to make this case tight, (police) don't want to go to court and say they didn't follow up on all calls," Kenworthy said.

Other pregnant women worried

Also last week, an investigator questioned Lee and Lear, both of whom were pregnant at Christmas time.

Peterson was 5-foot-1, while Lee is 5-foot-5 and Lear, 5-foot-7 1/2. Peterson was 27, Lee is 33 and Lear, 36.

Lee was only four months along in December. She had walked her chocolate Labrador retriever, Kramer, in the neighborhood in November, but quit when the weather turned colder and was not out on Christmas Eve, she said.

"I didn't look half as pregnant (then) as she did," Lee said.

Lear said she was six months pregnant at that time, but hardly showed. Her hair color is close to Laci Peterson's. And their dogs were about the same size, although Lear's Australian shepherd, Maitland, was mostly black with some white and copper.

"From a distance, a lot of us probably look similar," Lear said.

The park was her favorite destination while running and walking the previous seven years with Maitland, who died in February. But she clearly remembers not being out on Christmas Eve.

Both Lee and Lear quit walking as the missing-woman case was splashed across newspapers and television screens all over North America.

"I remember being freaked out about that," Lee said. "We didn't know if there was some crazy person abducting pregnant women."

Said Lear: "It made everyone more cautious. Things like that are a little too close to home."

Both resumed walking, pushing strollers, after delivering their babies -- and after police made it clear that their investigation pointed to no one other than Scott Peterson. But they prefer to walk with their husbands.

Kenworthy, who was not pregnant, never stopped walking Aroo.

"I did give (Peterson) a hug," she recalled. "When someone approaches you and says, 'My wife's missing, and she's pregnant, too,' it makes your heart squeeze tight."

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Judge keeps gag order on participants in Peterson case

Posted on Thu, Jun. 26, 2003

Judge keeps gag order on participants in Peterson case

MODESTO, Calif. (AP) - The judge in the Laci Peterson murder case reaffirmed his gag order today, but refused to hold contempt proceedings against the Stanislaus County district attorney for speaking publicly about the case.

Judge Al Girolami also sealed a search warrant for Scott Peterson's cellular phone records and postponed a preliminary hearing until September, at which time he will hear testimony to determine whether Peterson will stand trial on two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Laci Peterson, and their unborn son.

The judge rejected claims by defense lawyer Mark Geragos that District Attorney James Brazelton breached ethical lines when he said he would seek an open preliminary hearing to show the public the evidence amassed against Peterson.

Geragos said Brazelton violated the court's gag order when he told The Modesto Bee that he chose not to seek a grand jury indictment in favor of the preliminary hearing so he could dispel rumors and ``open some eyes.''

The remarks did not rise to an ``extremely egregious or prejudicial'' level, Girolami said. At most the comments would result in a fine and the judge said he didn't want to take up the matter before the trial, which could be more than a year away.

Geragos also lost an attempt to have the lawyer for his client's former mistress found in contempt for repeatedly appearing on television talk shows to discuss the case. Girolami said the gag order did not apply to attorney Gloria Allred, who represents Amber Frey, the massage therapist Peterson was romantically involved with before his wife vanished.

Bolstered by the ruling, Allred amplified her rhetoric outside the courthouse, calling it a ``pathetic loss'' for Geragos.

``I think Mr. Geragos knows if he wants war with me, he gets it,'' she said. ``I'm not the shy type.''

Geragos had asked the judge to lift the gag order because he can't respond to rumors or evidence leaked in the case.

The judge has barred lawyers, witnesses and investigators from speaking about the case to prevent evidence leaks and gossip that could make it difficult to find fair jurors.

Peterson, 30, a former fertilizer salesman, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder and could face the death penalty if convicted. He was arrested after the remains of his wife and unborn son washed ashore in San Francisco Bay in April near where he said he was fishing Christmas Eve when she vanished.

Girolami added a search warrant of Peterson's phone records to about a dozen other court records that have been sealed, including autopsy results, wiretap applications and other police records. The court records are sealed from the public but available to lawyers.

Girolami set the preliminary hearing for Sept. 9 after prosecutors said witnesses were not available when it was originally scheduled next month. Defense lawyers agreed to the change.

If the hearing is open to the public, it will be the first time evidence in the case has been discussed in open court. The judge will hear arguments Aug. 14 on whether to close the courtroom.

Girolami set an Aug. 15 hearing to consider a defense ........

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Peterson hearing delayed until September

Peterson hearing delayed until September

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 26, 2003, 10:49:06 AM PDT

Sept. 9 is the new date for a hearing to determine if there is enough evidence to try Scott Peterson for the murders of his wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner. Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami granted the delay today after asking Peterson is he agreed to postponing the hearing.

"It's not my wish, but yes," Peterson answered.

Peterson's attorney, Mark Geragos, said the delay was necessary because there is still some evidence that hasn't been shown to the defense team.

Laci Peterson was nearly eight-months pregnant when she was reported missing on Christmas Eve. Her body and that of Conner were found in early April on the eastern shore of San Francisco Bay.

The hearing today also covered whether a search warrant should remains sealed. The warrant was issued after Peterson's arrest April 18 just north of San Diego. Girolami ruled that the warrant should remain sealed. He has said that opening the warrant and other documents could make it difficult for Peterson to get a fair trial.

Eight more search warrants are set to be unsealed July 8 unless an appeals court reverses Superior Court Judge Roger M. Beauchesne's order.........

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Did DA violate gag order?Did DA violate gag order?

By SUSAN HERENDEEN
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 26, 2003, 07:33:04 AM PDT

A judge is not likely to order a contempt of court hearing for Stanislaus County District Attorney James Brazelton this morning, legal experts predict. Defense attorney Mark Geragos has asked Judge Al Girolami to hold Brazelton in contempt for violating a gag order in the double-murder case against Scott Peterson, who is accused of killing his wife, Laci, and unborn son, Conner.

If that happens, Brazelton could get a reprimand, be fined or even spend a day behind bars. But experts said the chance of censure is slim.

"Judges generally don't hold prosecutors in contempt," said Bennett Gershman, a former New York City prosecutor who teaches at Pace University Law School and has written textbooks about prosecutorial misconduct.

"It sounds like the type of violation that the judge won't find to be in contempt," said George Bird, a certified criminal law specialist and defense attorney in Torrance.

Girolami two weeks ago forbade attorneys on both sides from discussing evidence in the case. He also could rule today on another defense motion to lift the gag order.

Brazelton last week told The Bee he wants to take the case to a preliminary hearing, rather than to a grand jury where he could lay out his evidence behind closed doors.

He said the move is needed to because leaks to the media and speculation on television talk shows force prosecutors to "spend all our time running down this phony baloney stuff they throw up."

In court papers, Geragos said the comments are "nothing less than outrageous."

But it will be up to the judge to decide if Brazelton was merely talking about the process or flouting his order by talking about the evidence.

"It's not a clear, unequivocal, unambiguous reference to the evidence in violation of the judge's order," Gershman said.

The California Bar Association doesn't keep statistics on contempt of court findings, but will investigate if attorneys are held in contempt for ethical violations. Brazelton has no public record of discipline.

The defense also has alleged "grave prosecutorial misconduct" in the interception of 71 phone calls in a wiretap, because three calls between Scott Peterson and his attorney were re-corded............

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No room at the inn since TV comment

No room at the inn since TV comment

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: June 26, 2003, 07:33:06 AM PDT

The manager of a Modesto hotel said he turned away Scott Peterson's parents after his father criticized Laci Peterson's family on a nationally televised talk show. "I didn't want to take care of them anymore," said Brad Saltzman, general manager of the Red Lion Hotel. He made it clear that his stance did not reflect that of hotel ownership.

Saltzman said he was disturbed when Lee Peterson, Scott Peterson's father, complained on TV that his daughter-in-law's family burglarized his son's home. On May 30, her family removed truckloads of items that they said belonged to her.

Police, calling it a civil matter, did not intervene.

Sharon Rocha, Laci Peterson's mother, was not seen at the house that day.

Lee Peterson said on "Larry King Live," in part, "Instead of grieving, Sharon apparently planned this break-in."

That touched a nerve, Saltzman said. When Jackie Peterson, Scott Peterson's mother, called later to book a room, he said he suggested another hotel would have a better rate. They haven't spoken since.

Lee Peterson has said that his son's defense team has asked him not to talk to reporters.

Saltzman had provided a banquet room for a search command center for three weeks in late December and early January and continues to provide interview rooms for TV networks.

Saltzman said he had allowed the Petersons, who live near San Diego, to stay for free at the Red Lion until their son was charged with the murders of Laci and Conner Peterson. After that, they paid a discounted rate, said Saltzman, who has been at the hotel 18 months.

He said the Petersons stayed about a half-dozen times for a total of about 10 nights. Members of their extended family also stayed, Saltzman said.

"I look at the hotel like my house; I opened my doors to them," Saltzman......

((( My Comment:Good for Mr. Saltzman!!)))

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IF YOU ARE EATING, DON'T READ YET!!!

Aspiring rapper convicted of LA woman's murder

Aspiring rapper convicted of LA woman's murder

The Associated Press
(Published Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 7:05 PM)

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) - An aspiring rapper was convicted Wednesday of murder and aggravated mayhem in the April 2002 slaying of a woman who authorities say had her chest ripped open and one of her lungs partially eaten. A Superior Court jury deliberated less than an hour before returning the guilty verdicts against Antron Singleton, 26. Jurors were to meet again Thursday to begin considering Singleton's plea of insanity at the time of the murder. Prosecutors said they are not seeking the death penalty.

The body of Tynisha Ysais, who was stabbed to death, was found in the southeast Los Angeles apartment she shared with Singleton. Authorities testified that the 21-year-old woman's chest had been cut open and her right lung, which had been removed, appeared chewed and torn.........

Snip it

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Testimony In Peterson Case Postponed Until September

Testimony In Peterson Case Postponed Until September

Scott Peterson in court.

(AP)

June 26 (AP) — The judge in the Laci Peterson murder case reaffirmed his gag order Thursday, but refused to hold contempt proceedings against the Stanislaus County district attorney for speaking publicly about the case.

Judge Al Girolami also sealed a search warrant for Scott Peterson's cellular phone records and postponed a preliminary hearing until September, at which time he will hear testimony to determine whether Peterson will stand trial on two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Laci Peterson, and their unborn son.

The judge rejected claims by defense lawyer Mark Geragos that District Attorney James Brazelton breached ethical lines when he said he would seek an open preliminary hearing to show the public the evidence amassed against Peterson.

Geragos said Brazelton violated the court's gag order when he told The Modesto Bee that he chose not to seek a grand jury indictment in favor of the preliminary hearing so he could dispel rumors and "open some eyes."

The remarks did not rise to an "extremely egregious or prejudicial" level, Girolami said. At most the comments would result in a fine and the judge said he didn't want to take up the matter before the trial, which could be more than a year away.

Geragos also lost an attempt to have the lawyer for his client's former mistress found in contempt for repeatedly appearing on television talk shows to discuss the case. Girolami said the gag order did not apply to attorney Gloria Allred, who represents Amber Frey, the massage therapist Peterson was romantically involved with before his wife vanished.

Bolstered by the ruling, Allred amplified her rhetoric outside the courthouse, calling it a "pathetic loss" for Geragos.

"I think Mr. Geragos knows if he wants war with me, he gets it," she said. "I'm not the shy type."

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KEYWORDS: avoidingchildsupport; baby; babyunborn; conner; deathpenaltytime; dontubelievemyalibi; getarope; ibefishing; laci; lacipeterson; smallbaby; smallchild; sonkiller; unborn; wifekiller
>>Bolstered by the ruling, Allred amplified her rhetoric outside the courthouse, calling it a "pathetic loss" for Geragos.

"I think Mr. Geragos knows if he wants war with me, he gets it," she said. "I'm not the shy type."

Geragos had asked the judge to lift the gag order because he can't respond to rumors or evidence leaked in the case.">>

You go Gloria!

1 posted on 06/27/2003 5:30:50 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Lots of info today.... Pinging.....
2 posted on 06/27/2003 5:31:34 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Texas Eagle; Scupoli; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; muggs; ...
Lots of info today.... Pinging.....

Ray, I posted that article....;o)

3 posted on 06/27/2003 5:32:56 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
scaughty's smirk!


4 posted on 06/27/2003 5:34:36 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: All
OOps! Should of included the story link. 'o)

An annoyed Peterson speaks out in court

An annoyed Peterson speaks out in court

Scott Peterson expressed his annoyance Thursday at the slow pace of his case.

By Harriet Ryan
Court TV

MODESTO, Calif. — Scott Peterson lashed out at prosecutors Thursday, telling a judge in rare court comments that the district attorney's slow pace of turning over evidence to his lawyers left him no choice but to consent to a two-month delay in his double-murder case.

"I think we are forced to without the information coming from the prosecution," said Peterson in a loud voice tinged with annoyance when asked by Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami if he agreed to the postponement, a pro forma question that normally elicits a curt "Yes" from a defendant.

"It's not my wish, but yes," he added when pressed further.

Peterson's grudging agreement to moving his preliminary hearing from July to September was the most he has said publicly since his April arrest for the murder of his pregnant wife and unborn son.

Peterson, who insists he had nothing to do with his wife Laci's death and believes the real killer is still at large, is facing the death penalty and confined to a cell in the county jail. According to the county sheriff, the often-tearful Peterson is visited several times a day by mental health workers and, while not officially on suicide watch, is monitored closely by the staff. His supporters have said he is eager to begin the preliminary hearing, where prosecutors will disclose their evidence against him.

Chief Deputy District Attorney John Goold, speaking to reporters outside the courthouse, denied the prosecution was dragging its feet in turning over police reports and other evidence to the defense team as ......

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Lawyers toss barbs — and buffalos — during Peterson hearing

Lawyers toss barbs — and buffalos — during Peterson hearing

By Harriet Ryan
Court TV

MODESTO, Calif. — Scott Peterson's lawyer and the attorney for his former mistress traded insults inside and outside a court hearing Thursday in a verbal brawl that included references to "Saturday Night Live" skits, a gazelle, the county fair and at least one declaration of war, but practically nothing about the crime which could land the accused double-murderer on death row.

The face-off between media-savvy lawyers Mark Geragos and Gloria Allred, which the participants variously described as "a battle," "a game" and a buffalo hunt, ended with Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami rejecting Geragos' charge that Allred had violated a gag order by speaking about the case on cable talk shows.

Mark Geragos during an earlier pretrial hearing June 6

The judge said Allred was not covered by the order, which prevents lawyers, police, investigators and potential witnesses from publicly discussing evidence concerning the murder of Peterson's pregnant wife, Laci, and unborn child. Allred represents Amber Frey, a masseuse who began an affair with Peterson about a month before the killings and has been described by Allred as a key trial witness.

"Even if she were, I'm satisfied [her comments] were not clearly and specifically prohibited," said Girolami, who kept a calm and matter-of-fact demeanor as the two sides bickered.

At the conclusion of the hearing, a beaming Allred.......

5 posted on 06/27/2003 5:38:40 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks.Geragos was over the top about all his witnesses hiring lawyers and going on the talk shows to counter Gloria.No surprise about the prelim..but I grow impatient!
6 posted on 06/27/2003 5:41:28 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: runningbear
Gotta love the New York Post and their headline!

Does Scott want some Velveeta with that whine?

7 posted on 06/27/2003 5:44:14 AM PDT by uvular
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To: uvular
The prosecution must be a little unsure of their case. Geragas entered the case because of the smell of money.
8 posted on 06/27/2003 5:53:51 AM PDT by meenie
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To: uvular
LOL....
9 posted on 06/27/2003 6:38:36 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: MEG33
some times, I do too! ;o)
10 posted on 06/27/2003 6:38:59 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: meenie
or geragos is confusing everyone, that everyone becomes unsure of who done it... "The Mystery of Who did Laci".. 'o)/humor off!...
11 posted on 06/27/2003 6:40:26 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Scott is laughing in our faces. I happened to see this brash and cocky POS "Live" yesterday. What an A$$. If I could have reached into the TV, my hands around his neck would have wiped that smirk off his face, pronto.

And yes… I think he killed Laci, pregnant with Connor. Just my opinion.

12 posted on 06/27/2003 7:04:27 AM PDT by auboy
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To: runningbear
Just a small post of a letter written to the Modesto Bee's Opinion page.

Oh, my head

Published: June 26, 2003, 07:25:09 AM PDT {Modesto Bee}

So, let me see if I've got this straight. If city-slicker attorney Mark Geragos has his way in the Peterson case, the entire prosecuting team will be dismissed, along with Gloria Allred and all the judges, and the wiretap recordings, search warrants and autopsy results will be thrown out. In the end, Scott Peterson will be set free, and the only people jailed will be every man in Modesto named Donnie, all tan van owners, Satanic cult members and Sharon Rocha.

Please pass me the Advil.

Excerpted see rest at:
http://www.modbee.com/opinion/letters/story/7025876p-7959229c.html
13 posted on 06/27/2003 7:15:57 AM PDT by alexandria ( T.A.K.E. {{"The All Knowing Entity."}})
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To: runningbear
Thanks for all the info rb!
The title of the opening article is sooo appropriate!
Allred was on fire after the hearing and on all of her appearances last night! Her dukes are up!
14 posted on 06/27/2003 7:20:58 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: alexandria
LOL.... that was great for my TGIF....
15 posted on 06/27/2003 7:21:34 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
EXCUSE ME BUT COULD WE HAVE A COMPLETE BAN ON ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE LACI PETERSON CASE?

THE STUPID BASTARD MANURE SALESMAN DID IT ALREADY. BUY A CLUE.

I AM SICK UNTO DEATH OF HEARING ABOUT IT.

please god make it go away

***creepy Laci Peterson music here***


16 posted on 06/27/2003 7:21:49 AM PDT by hang 'em
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To: auboy
Thank you... your thoughts are like many others...
17 posted on 06/27/2003 7:22:28 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Poor Scott! Life is tough when you're a defendent, eh? Well, Scott, try being the victim! (I really think he did it--but looks like we have to wait a few months to find out!)
18 posted on 06/27/2003 8:11:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: hang 'em
USE YOUR MOUSE TO AVOID THESE THREADS....DON'T CLICK ON THEM!!

Get ahold of yourself, this case looks like it will be around for a looonnggg time...;0)

19 posted on 06/27/2003 8:13:06 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: hang 'em
THE STUPID BASTARD MANURE SALESMAN DID IT ALREADY.

Without a doubt, you are Jury Foreperson material.

20 posted on 06/27/2003 10:43:44 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: alexandria
OMG - what a good letter to the editor. THAT in a nutshell is about the size of it. I think this Judge has Geragos completely figured out!! Good for Gloria Allred challenging him on the Courthouse steps. Wonder how he likes his own medicine??? LOL
21 posted on 06/27/2003 1:07:57 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear
The look on Peterson's face is one of subdued "extreme" rage. It probably won't be too hard to push his buttons. Just think what went on behind closed doors on Covena Avenue.!!
22 posted on 06/27/2003 1:10:11 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: hang 'em
Well for goodness sakes, DON'T read these threads if they upset you so. Seems pretty simple to me. Not interested - pass it by!!
23 posted on 06/27/2003 1:14:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
The look on Peterson's face is one of subdued "extreme" rage.

I have to disagree, CO. I saw this pic on last night's thread, and seeing it again just reaffirms my first impression: He looks happy. I'd agree with "smirk" because I am aware of his comment and context.

24 posted on 06/27/2003 1:47:05 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: hang 'em
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people."

— Admiral Hyman G. Rickover (1900-1986).

25 posted on 06/27/2003 1:52:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the conspiracy of inanimate objects!)
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To: All
Just a question:

Yesterday, it was discussed somewhat on Greta and LKL, that the Rocha family has said they prefer NOT to have the trial televised.

One of the commentators, can't remember which one, said the Judges lean toward the victim's family in making the decision.

Has anyone heard anything further? I know the Judge should rule on it before the Sept. 9th Hearing. I just wondered if anyone heard any comments from anyone about the liklihood that the Judge will ban camera's in the courtroom.

26 posted on 06/27/2003 2:15:09 PM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: Neenah
Yesterday, it was discussed somewhat on Greta and LKL, that the Rocha family has said they prefer NOT to have the trial televised.

I did not see any of those shows last night, but I watched the Rocha interview with Katie Couric. On that program Sharon Rocha did in fact say they do not want the proceedings televised. She said it feels too personal to have splashed all over. However, she said they do not have any say in the matter. (Whether unbeknownst to her the victim's family's wishes are taken into account I do not know, but that is what she said.)

27 posted on 06/27/2003 2:18:30 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Thanks, cooper, I remember her saying that. It is selfish on my part, because I want to see it for myself, and not rely on a reporter to tell us what happened that day in court.

In the cobwebs of my mind, I think I heard some time ago that Garagos does not want cameras. Guess we will see.

28 posted on 06/27/2003 3:05:15 PM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: runningbear
Bump for later read
29 posted on 06/27/2003 5:20:44 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: cyncooper
Really?? You think he looks happy?? Look how his eyes are sort of blazing. He looks peed off to me. I agree he does smirk and before he was arrested in many instances he appeared to be smirking. But I definitely think he HATES jail and doesn't think he should be there. Sort of like Simpson, pathological liars, at some point believe their own lies.
30 posted on 06/27/2003 5:44:25 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: uvular
hehehe - I wonder if the New York Post will be getting a call from Lee Peterson?? I guess now the NYP has a personal vendetta against his son!!
31 posted on 06/27/2003 5:46:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: All
Regarding cameras in the courtroom for the trial... My own personal opinion is that so many people in the USA have been very much involved emotionally with the loss of Laci and Conner that it would be an injustice to all of us for no cameras...Since the beginning of this whole thing all has been kept from us and sealed. I think this is an unfair situation because we as citizens had the right to so many documents but as stated have been sealed. I sympathize with the Rochas for their feelings of not wanting it televised but we too need closure and by being able to see the actual trail and not just what is reported in the media is fair and just to us the citizens of USA
32 posted on 06/27/2003 6:54:07 PM PDT by fiesti
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To: runningbear
Hehehe..I like your thread title.

When I heard SP's little 'outburst' yesterday, I was thinking OUT LOUD, who does he think he is; part of the dream team? lol

I hope he keeps it up, too. He's looking more and more sure of himself, too cocky and arrogant, too.

Thanks for the pings, too.

33 posted on 06/27/2003 7:12:43 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Neenah
Hi Neenah..I know I'm a little late but I saw most of the shows last night and most of the talking heads for the most part agreed that the judge will more than likely allow cameras at the trial reguardless of the Rochas pleas..Saying that the accused has a right to a a fair trial in a public forum would over-ride victims wishes.
34 posted on 06/27/2003 7:34:38 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
Thanks, Jackie !!
35 posted on 06/27/2003 7:39:52 PM PDT by Neenah ("It's always something ! ")
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To: Neenah
Most welcome..Nite! ;0)
36 posted on 06/27/2003 8:19:26 PM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: fiesti
Good points and we should not forget it is the "People v. Peterson". Rochas can can have a very private civil suit if they wish to gain control of Laci's estate.
37 posted on 06/27/2003 8:26:39 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: fiesti
Just to be clear: I was not posting my thoughts on cameras in the courtroom, just answering someone's question if the Rochas had in fact expressed that they don't want them.
38 posted on 06/27/2003 11:10:03 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: IamHD
lol...have to thank NY Post on some of their titles... they are at times, real kickers... ;o)

your welecome, and my pleasure...

39 posted on 06/28/2003 6:48:15 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I think peterson would do great on the stage floor if needed, geragoe got him all confident, and you know the DA would be looking for the opportune time to unwind him, and fizzle him out..... (well, if I had the ammo, I would....hummm, better yet, lets now get Allred to do it...lol...)
40 posted on 06/28/2003 6:50:25 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
My you are an early bird aren't you??? No news today?? I have to go to some friends for lunch today anyway. Amazing, I work all week, and frankly, I don't feel like going visiting today. This one is must tho. *groan*
41 posted on 06/28/2003 11:59:01 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage; Diver Dave
well there sort of was, but a continuation from Friday and Thursday's hearing stuff.... I'll get it posted for tomorrow... It just has been too dang hot in Modesto for the last 3 days....triple digits... Me, early, during work, hours are 0200 alarm clock time, non work time, when the light breaks the sky from night fall...lol..

Diver, I saw ya all today again..> I was whipping a fast right turn there... waved...

I zoomed by quick... the driving and heat was too much...

42 posted on 06/28/2003 7:00:10 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Hey bear - I'm home now, but we were sitting on our friends deck and I gotta tell you, it's hot like hell here too!! We couldn't get in the car right away, David had to start it and turn the airconditioning on high and walk away for a few minutes. We weren't in triple digits but high 90's and we have dry heat here. I prefer that to humidity!!
43 posted on 06/28/2003 7:06:52 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I hope Snott is enjoying the shade!! FOFL!!
44 posted on 06/28/2003 7:08:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: fiesti
if the judge rules for the DA, geragos is toast! He wants lights, cameras, and actions!

But I too say, and think for the reasons the DA cited, sounds to me a weak case to ban the tv's.... Media will win this one!

45 posted on 06/28/2003 7:11:28 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Canadian Outrage
humidity is mostly starting midwest to east.. few days per year, the humidity factor is high in Ca... But not this week, dry summer arid air! (a little Delta breeze is here, but man, can't wait til it backs down to low 90's, that I can handle.)I want to jump in a pool.....beer puts me in sleep zone....lol...
46 posted on 06/28/2003 7:14:40 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: fiesti
so many people in the USA have been very much involved emotionally with the loss of Laci and Conner that it would be an injustice to all of us

I think this is called projection.

47 posted on 06/28/2003 7:15:29 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: Canadian Outrage
you know, if I remember right, there is no A/C in the cells, at least for sure the Honor Farm ...they cook!

Watch, scaughty will whine on that too.... goodness.!

48 posted on 06/28/2003 7:16:02 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
I agree, THIS trial will be televised even if it is shown not in real time. Personally, I know there have been a couple of comments that some here think the DA has a weak case. I for one, do NOT think that. I think they have a heap of circumstantial evidence and some direct evidence (eg: Laci's hair in a pair of pliers found under the seat of a boat she knew nothing of) etc. The computer records and PETERSON's OWN voice on the phone calls could bury him. If, and I believe we will hear this, he is heard saying to Amber that he loves her and wants to spend his life with her, he's burnt toast. After all wasn't this the guy that was supposedly grieving over the loss of his wife and unborn son?? Geragos picked the wrong trial to attempt to become super famous on. I'm in agreement with the regular poster here that said, Geragos does not appear to be up to this trial. I've even heard it said, that most of Geragos' wins have been because of his ability to "USE" the media. Here he has had his greatest tool bagged. He's like a fish out of water. Flopping around in all directions. His hyperbole in his never ending stream of motions is also clearly over the top!!
49 posted on 06/28/2003 7:30:07 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear
AWWWW you mean Scotty is uncomfortable??? Too bad, so sad!! Bwaaaahaaaaaaa!!
50 posted on 06/28/2003 7:32:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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