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Dems Declare Political War in the House
Fox News ^ | 6/27/03 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 06/27/2003 6:07:57 AM PDT by Pest

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON — House Democrats have declared war on the Republican leadership, vowing to gum up the legislative process in retaliation for what they say is systematic and unfair treatment by the majority.

“Our bag of tricks is somewhat small, but we will continue to use it,” said Stacey Farnen, spokeswoman for House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer (search), D-Md. “There are some more dramatic ways we can express ourselves.”


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Hoyer testified that, “when Democrats controlled the House, we did not always provide for fair debates. We should neither excuse those past practices, nor countenance the current ones."

Translation: We know we did it, but it's unfair now.

1 posted on 06/27/2003 6:07:57 AM PDT by Pest
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To: Pest
Unlike the Senate, I don't think there is a whole lot they can do in the House.
2 posted on 06/27/2003 6:09:07 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Pest
yup.

House rules give the minority party less leeway in fighting the majority’s agenda

Gee, I wonder where these rules originated?

3 posted on 06/27/2003 6:10:31 AM PDT by SC_Republican (mmmm....FOOTBALL)
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To: Pest
“There are some more dramatic ways we can express ourselves.”

Oh, no...they're gonna bring on the puppeteers again!

4 posted on 06/27/2003 6:12:19 AM PDT by SavageRepublican
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To: SC_Republican
My gosh, let me mark this day on my calendar. Democrats are actually complaining! Who could have predicted this?
5 posted on 06/27/2003 6:12:52 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Pest
“Mr. Speaker, this is one of the most cynical, arrogant displays of power that I have ever witnessed in this House,” Hoyer charged during a June 12 debate on the GOP proposal.

Hmmmmmmm I guess this maroon wasn't around for the 40+ years the dims controlled the House!

6 posted on 06/27/2003 6:13:19 AM PDT by borisbob69 (This space available...)
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To: Pest
I just noticed something: 229-206. What were the numbers when the GOP first took the House in 1994? We have been led to believe in every election that we were "losing ground," but this seems up several seats from just a couple of years ago, and about where we were in 1994, is it not?
7 posted on 06/27/2003 6:18:08 AM PDT by LS
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To: SC_Republican
House rules give the minority party less leeway in fighting the majority’s agenda

Isn't that the way a democratic form of government is supposed to work? The People elect the representatives they think will best represent their views in congress. If the majority of the representatives are Republican, then that's what The People want. Therefore, the majority should rule.

8 posted on 06/27/2003 6:26:11 AM PDT by Pest
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To: LS
230 in 1995. We should have 230 now but LA-05 screwed it up for us.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 6:28:04 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: LS
The GOP gained about 5-6 seats last election, as I recall.
10 posted on 06/27/2003 6:28:08 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Pest
Or, "It was okay when we did itm but not when it is being doen to us."

If I were the Republican leadership, I would nationalize the next race and highlight the Rats' policy of obstructionism.
11 posted on 06/27/2003 6:30:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Pest
I heard an audio clip on the radio this morning but I didn't catch the name of the Senator who made the following statement on the medicare bill: "It used to be that GOP stood for Grand Ole Party. Now it stands for Get Old People". How low can you go?
12 posted on 06/27/2003 6:31:57 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Gabrielle Reilly
ping
13 posted on 06/27/2003 6:36:45 AM PDT by Gabrielle Reilly
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To: SC_Republican
> House rules give the minority party less leeway in fighting the majority’s agenda

Gee, I wonder where these rules originated?

I'll wager that the most-restrictive on the minority's power came into being between January 5, 1955 and January 3, 1995 when the DemonRATs had a 40-year lock on the House.

14 posted on 06/27/2003 6:40:46 AM PDT by steveegg (Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, air-burst artillery and thermonuclear weapons)
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To: Pest
Just Dems being Dems, stomping their feet and turning blue when they don't get their way.
15 posted on 06/27/2003 6:41:05 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Pest
Do it, DemonRats! You're not angry and militant enough.

This is all they can do. It's not like they have a vision, an actual plan, or any reasonable justification for what they want.

16 posted on 06/27/2003 6:42:03 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (No animals were harmed during the making of this post.)
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To: Pest
How about this Dem House member:

• As sometimes happens with Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.), he let his mouth race ahead of his brain Wednesday night at a gathering of Young Democrats at the Washington nightspot Acropolis. After presidential candidate Howard Dean spoke, Kennedy delivered an impassioned peroration against President Bush's tax cut. We hear that Kennedy told the crowd: "I don't need Bush's tax cut. I have never worked a [bleeping] day in my life." With that he got the audience's attention -- the dropping-jaws kind.
17 posted on 06/27/2003 6:44:37 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: freeperfromnj
"It used to be that GOP stood for Grand Ole Party. Now it stands for Get Old People".

Maybe someone who has followed politics longer than I can remember when that was first used. I think it might have started back in the Reagan years.

18 posted on 06/27/2003 6:50:04 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: Pest
Hoyer testified that, “when Democrats controlled the House, we did not always provide for fair debates. We should neither excuse those past practices, nor countenance the current ones."..Translation: We know we did it, but it's unfair now.

????...No Answer Required...Anybody have the New 'RAT (baby Crying) seal Avail.?

19 posted on 06/27/2003 6:51:23 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: freeperfromnj
I heard an audio clip on the radio this morning but I didn't catch the name of the Senator who made the following statement on the medicare bill: "It used to be that GOP stood for Grand Ole Party. Now it stands for Get Old People". How low can you go?

The Very, very, Elderly, Senile Sen. Fritz Hollings..from S.C., I believe.

20 posted on 06/27/2003 6:57:23 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: StriperSniper
it might have started back in the Reagan years.

You may be right. I do remember the Rats saying Reagan wanted to throw old people out in the street. Hearing that comment first thing in the morning really ticked me off. He said it with such malice and hate in his voice. I wish I knew who it was that said it. Just have to shrug it off as typical Rat's sophmoric behavior I guess.

21 posted on 06/27/2003 6:57:29 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Tribune7
Dear Dems-

Cry me a river.

CP
22 posted on 06/27/2003 6:58:01 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: skinkinthegrass
The Very, very, Elderly, Senile Sen. Fritz Hollings

I should have guessed that one!

23 posted on 06/27/2003 7:00:21 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: borisbob69
Careful there Borisbob69 with the typos...the liberals love to whine and do it in the most unlikely places. My daughter use to enjoy this doll board, but its been taken over by liberals. I guess these losers can't discuss their view on a normal political board. Free Republic does seem to get under their skin. Read this crap posted by one Anne-Marie Burns...

"That is what they call themselves (freepers) and the name of the web site is the Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com)

I've went there a few times and each time felt I needed a shower afterwards. So much hate and anger! They are always praying for something or praying for politicians (false prophets as far as I am concerned). They are anti-anything that makes for individual rights or freedoms. They are also called "dittoheads" because they generally work themselves into frenzies over there and it sounds like big hate chants. They mix hate, religion, killing and quests for killings like it is a group of people talking around a BBQ or church meeting. It sickens me how they can always drag God into their hate spews. It's so ugly, it makes my skin crawl to even look at.

You should have seen the comments just before the Iraq war. Racial remarks that just made you go pale. I will not even repeat what I saw there. It goes on like this day after day there.

What scares me is, that these people must actually go out in the world and work somewhere? And have kids?

One remark that had me rolling with laughter was this freeper stating something like this about anti-war people: "them and all their kids and grandkids should be sterilized". hee hee hee I laughed myself silly over this.

There was this priceless photo circulating for a while around the internet of this Freeper wearing a pair of shorts and a baseball cap and holding a beer in one hand and a sign in the other that said "M O R A N S" (mispelled from morons.) Wow, people everywhere were sending this pic to each other for a good giggle. So when you see the word Moran used, this is what it refers to."


The woman is a idiot. I gave her an ear full further down on the board, but I don't think it registered. Here is a link to the site. http://www.xynadra.com/bbs/doll-lounge/

24 posted on 06/27/2003 7:00:44 AM PDT by Bee-9
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To: Pest; Republican Wildcat; Mo1; justshe; ArneFufkin; scott7278
Was part of a small group on here last night that watched the debate in the House until the final vote was cast early this morning!

The DemocRATs, if last night was an example, are in an all out war against Republicans. Their speeches were rabid, finger-pointing, arm flailing, obnoxious, lying, mean-spirted, and nasty rhetoric when debating on Medicare. Their lack of class in heckling Cong DeLay said it all!

Bill passed anyway in spite of their nasty rhetoric. Guess the RATs don't like living with the RULES they created!
25 posted on 06/27/2003 7:05:40 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Pest
Republican aides said the GOP leadership has treated the Democrats more fairly than the Republicans were treated a decade ago.

WHY? Treat them worse, they deserve it.

26 posted on 06/27/2003 7:15:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: SavageRepublican
LOLOL......guess they are jealous and want to be known as obstructionists too!
27 posted on 06/27/2003 7:19:44 AM PDT by OldFriend (Liberal bias in the media????)
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To: LS
Yes, we have been gaining seats. More to do but going in the right direction.
28 posted on 06/27/2003 7:20:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (Liberal bias in the media????)
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To: freeperfromnj
Oh yes, I heard that too. They've been doing that for so long....it's stale.

Further, we need to point out exactly which president taxed social security RETROACTIVELY!

29 posted on 06/27/2003 7:22:09 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Well, then, this is an amazing story that the press deliberately played down. We have constantly heard the the Dems have "made gains," when in fact, they are right back where they were 10 years ago!
30 posted on 06/27/2003 7:23:47 AM PDT by LS
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To: Pest
RATS crying again, nothing new.
31 posted on 06/27/2003 7:24:23 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: Pest
Well, paybacks being what they are...
32 posted on 06/27/2003 7:27:19 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Pest
RATS are RATS no matter where they are in the government--obstructionists par excellence and whiners all the time.
33 posted on 06/27/2003 7:34:25 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (RAVING RATS RAIL RECKLESSLY!)
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34 posted on 06/27/2003 7:41:52 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it.)
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To: Coop
Yeah they are all gonna hide in a Holiday Inn near Ardmore Oklahoma .........Ahhhh democracy, how sweet it used to be.......:o)

Stay Safe Coop !

35 posted on 06/27/2003 7:51:13 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Pest
Hoyer testified that, “when Democrats controlled the House, we did not always provide for fair debates. We should neither excuse those past practices, nor countenance the current ones."

No Thanks. We’ve been down this street more than once.

Under Trent Lott, the Republicans "shared power" with the Democrats in the Senate. The very moment the Democrats flipped Jumpin Jim Jeffords, Daschle stopped and froze everything Republican as “controversial” and then required a two thirds vote to even think about it.

36 posted on 06/27/2003 7:56:23 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Pest
Politics INTSUM
37 posted on 06/27/2003 8:12:52 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Pest
House Democrats have declared war on the Republican leadership, vowing to gum up the legislative process in retaliation for what they say is systematic and unfair treatment by the majority.

Yawn

38 posted on 06/27/2003 8:14:12 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (When the tree of Liberty is washed, may it be only with the blood of tyrants!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I saw it also...did you catch Maxine Waters' hissy fit.she threw her papers up in the air, as she left the well of the House..aslo, didn't you love the "parade"of the Dem washerwomen, with their 15 second scripted comments...
39 posted on 06/27/2003 8:30:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Squantos
The Dems don't have to leave the state anymore for the Holiday in OK..the SC struck down the Texas sodomy law..
40 posted on 06/27/2003 8:31:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: freeperfromnj
That was a quote from Sam Gibbons YEARS ago. He was some old redneck trash from Florida, and I think he grabbed Joe Scarborough by the tie one time.
41 posted on 06/27/2003 8:33:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: ken5050
LMAO !.......Good one !
42 posted on 06/27/2003 8:36:58 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Pest
Politics is war, and war is hell.
43 posted on 06/27/2003 8:38:56 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Say Hey! Hey! Damn Yankee!")
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To: ken5050
Sure did see Waters! It was like Saturday Night Live for the RAT Women except it was real time! You couldn't have written their hissy fits any better. I laughed when Pelosi got going, the RATs applauded, and she started trying to keep from being giddy instead of angry. DemocRAT women in the House definitely give women a bad name!

Thought Speaker Hastert nailed them perfectly with his pointing fingers and flailing arms when describing the RATs! Somewhere in Debate/Speech class they missed the part about using your hands and arms too much can distract from your message! They all reminded me of clinton and his "I did not . . ."

What is it with RATs continually pointing and shaking their finger at people to make their point?
44 posted on 06/27/2003 9:16:42 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: StriperSniper
Back in 1968 (!), Time magazine lamented that the nominations of Nixon and Agnew meant the Republicans were "changing GOP from 'Grand Old Party' to 'Going Out of Politics'".

As you can see, not much has changed with that rag, or the left, for that matter, over the years.

1968 was really the debut for the "New Politics" types in the Democratic party (read: extreme left takes over an established political party). Great impetus was gained from McCarthy's (Eugene, not Joe!) 43% "win" in New Hampshire's primary, an event that must have sent the nation's newspeople into a bout of orgasmic joy.

But enough of that history.

You're right, tho. The press and their soul brothers on the left did rachet up the decibel level when Ronnie won in '82. The landslide of '86 did quiet things down a bit for a while, but Bush I's assumption of the party leadership pretty much ensured a return to "politics as usual".

We have a tremendous opportunity coming up with 2004. Unless the Repubs do a number of incredibly stupid things (never dismiss such a possibility where politicians are concerned!), I stand by my earlier view that November 2004 will see a Dow at 12,000+, a NASDAQ at 2000+, and an economy poised to rebound very nicely, thank you.

Additionally, Bush must address the Iran and North Korean questions firmly and, one would hope, convincingly.

Should these things come to pass, it is quite probable that the Democrats will be enjoying minority status for some time to come, and I can't think of a nicer group of people it should happen to!

CA....

45 posted on 06/27/2003 9:29:14 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Chances Are
Back in 1968 (!), Time magazine

That was about 4 years before that I learned to read. ;-)

46 posted on 06/27/2003 9:32:59 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: Bee-9
Careful there Borisbob69 with the typos...the liberals love to whine and do it in the most unlikely places.

I assume that you are referring to the "maroons" spelling of morons. That is actually from old Warner Bros. Bugs Bunny cartoons, where Bugs says things like "Wotta maroon!!" I would have to assume that Boris was using it in that sort of context, and alos to avoid any moderator editing.

In reference to the diatribe by that lib woman on that doll board, she is definitely a whiner. I had to recently write to the local free liberal rag about an article by a toadie named Bisbort, who appears to spend all his time drooling slackjawed by himself in a room in his mom's basement, pumping out vile anti Bush invective for publication in this paper of no merit (other than the News of the Weird). I, and another Freeper, cut him down to size by pointing out his considerable ignorance of the truth. He ranted about FR in a manner similar to Burns, but seemed to be completely oblivious to the hate and expletive filled posts on DU. Bisbort is a true "maroon," but he is a fine example of the kind of "thinking" that many rabid libs practice.

47 posted on 06/27/2003 9:57:05 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Pest
RATS at war? They've always been at war. This announcement is only for show.
48 posted on 06/27/2003 10:22:22 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Pest
“Our bag of tricks is somewhat small, but we will continue to use it,” said Stacey Farnen, spokeswoman for House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer (search), D-Md. “There are some more dramatic ways we can express ourselves.”

I'm almost certain she's lying here. I figure she probably turns twelve or thirteen tricks a day

49 posted on 06/27/2003 10:45:42 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Pest
Yeah, the gold old double standard!!

We can treat you like a piece of garbage - but don't you try to do that to us!!

Well ... next election - they will have even fewer dems to work with - so I wish them good luck!!
50 posted on 06/27/2003 11:41:16 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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