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1000 Sign-ups a minute for the "National Don't Call Me with Your Garbage Registry!"
Yahoo! ^ | June 27, 2003 | Andy Sullivan

Posted on 06/27/2003 12:15:53 PM PDT by PeaceCorpsGuy

370,000 Sign Up for Anti-Telemarketing List 1 hour, 30 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Andy Sullivan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One thousand people per second signed up Friday to get on a free "do not call" list that will prevent telemarketers from bothering them at home, swamping telephone lines and a Web site set up to handle demand.

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Eager Americans rushed to place their home phone numbers on the Federal Trade Commission's list shortly after President Bush (news - web sites) launched the measure in a White House ceremony.

By noon the list had grown to 370,000 and was increasing by 1,000 per second, the FTC said.

The do-not-call list should help Americans enjoy their private time without unwanted interruptions, Bush said a few hours after the list was opened up for registration.

"When Americans are sitting down to dinner or a parent is reading to his or her child, the last thing they need is a call from a stranger with a sales pitch," Bush said in a White House Rose Garden ceremony.

Telemarketers who call numbers on the list after Oct. 1 will face penalties of up to $11,000 per call, as well as possible consumer lawsuits.

Consumers can sign up for the list by logging on to (http://donotcall.gov), while those living west of the Mississippi river can also register by calling 1-888-382-1222.

Consumers will not have to pay to get on the list, as it will be funded by telemarketers.

Plunging long-distance rates and computerized dialers have led to a five-fold increase in telemarketing calls over the past decade, prompting a deluge of consumer complaints.

The FTC announced plans for the list last year, and Congress approved it shortly afterward. The list will also include mobile phone numbers.

Do-not-call lists have proven popular in the roughly 25 states that have set them up. In Minnesota, for example, roughly half of the state's 2.2 million residential lines have subscribed.

FTC officials ultimately expect 60 million households to sign up for the national list, prompting the agency to delay telephone-based registration until July 7 for those living east of the Mississippi in an effort to handle demand.

Individuals across the country said they had trouble getting on to the Web site Friday morning, or were kicked off once they started the registration process.

FTC spokeswoman Cathy MacFarlane said consumers don't need to rush as they have all summer to sign up, and will not see a drop-off in telemarketing calls until Oct. 1.

Consumers will also be able to sign up for the list after the summer.

The list does not cover all callers. Nonprofit and political callers will be free to ignore it, but will have to honor consumer requests not to be called back. Businesses will be free to call customers for 18 months after making a sale, but they too will have to honor opt-out requests.

Telemarketing groups have sued to scratch the effort, arguing that it abridges free-speech rights, and say it could decimate an industry that employs 2 million.

Privacy advocate Jason Catlett, who has pushed for a national list for years, said he has little sympathy for their plight.

"Free speech doesn't give you the right to pester people in their homes when they don't want to be pestered," said Catlett, president of Junkbusters Corp., which helps clients avoid unwanted commercial pitches.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: telemarketing
Guess I'm not the only one who is tired of being disturbed during dinner!
1 posted on 06/27/2003 12:15:53 PM PDT by PeaceCorpsGuy
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Now we need similar lists for junk mail and spam
2 posted on 06/27/2003 12:18:11 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412
Now we need similar lists for junk mail and spam

Yes, by all means. Heaven knows we need the national government to regulate something else for us don't we? The new 'conservative' agenda: Don't like it? Have the national government pass a law against it.

3 posted on 06/27/2003 12:21:08 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: omega4412
I don't mind junkmail, they pay to send it, I don't pay to receive it, and some of it makes good kindling. It's the phonecalls and e-mails I hate, I pay to receive that, and it doesn't burn well. IMHO they should all go back to regulation junkmail, the only time the post office was profitable was during the junkmail boom of the early 90s, you can argue that it actually save us money by keeping the post office from raising rates.
4 posted on 06/27/2003 12:21:10 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: omega4412
FCC Chairman Powell noted during the White House Cermony that email spam will be targeted next
5 posted on 06/27/2003 12:22:31 PM PDT by PeaceCorpsGuy
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To: discostu
Start printing out your e-mails.
6 posted on 06/27/2003 12:24:31 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak
It's not the same, I paid for that paper, I could burn it without printing stuff on it. The stuff they send me is completely free. It also helps the complex I live in puts a big trashcan right next to the mailboxes, junkmail has 5 feet to prove its use.
7 posted on 06/27/2003 12:27:54 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: billbears
Yes, by all means. Heaven knows we need the national government to regulate something else for us don't we? The new 'conservative' agenda: Don't like it? Have the national government pass a law against it.

Believe it or not, some laws are actually good.

8 posted on 06/27/2003 12:29:12 PM PDT by SC_Republican (mmmm....FOOTBALL)
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To: discostu
I was being silly.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 12:29:13 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak
I know, I'm being a straightman.
10 posted on 06/27/2003 12:31:16 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Been trying for 2 hours to get my registration completely processed. Obviously the site is completely overwhelmed. I'd love to see the remaining list of numbers they can actually call when registration trickles off. Hopefully it will be frustratingly short.
11 posted on 06/27/2003 12:32:00 PM PDT by agrace
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I get a dozen spams a week trying to sell me stuff for the septic tank I don't own. When I filtered for "septic" they started coming as "Fix your S E P T I C tank" and "You 2 can Fix your S-E-P-T-I-C tank". (Nevermind the people who want to sell me "V1aGrA"!) These people should be the first ones up against the wall when the Revolution comes. I rank them a step above the "toner pirates" who regularly call me at work and advise "Yeah, this is Frank at the warehouse...your toner is going up but I can get you a skid at the old price...what is your model number again?" ("Shouldn't you know my model, Frank? And that it comes free with my copier agreement?" )
12 posted on 06/27/2003 12:32:29 PM PDT by 50sDad (The only thing worse than Smurfs is CLOWNS! (or maybe MIMES!))
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To: billbears
You know, billbears, I usually agree with you, but . . .

Seems to me that this is the type of thing government should be doing. If you want salesmen calling you all the time, then simply do nothing. If don't, put your name on the list. I wish government would do more stuff like that.

Let's see, if you want to continue receiving power generated from nuclear plants -- do nothing. If you don't, put your name on the list to have your power terminated.

I bet there's a million of 'em.

I like it! I think it could actually cut DOWN on government intrusion, shrink the size of government, and save us all money.

13 posted on 06/27/2003 12:32:40 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I'm one of those 1000 per second folks.
14 posted on 06/27/2003 12:32:43 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: SC_Republican
Laws like this at the national level? No, not according to the Constitution. At the state level? I have no problem with it. Oh, I forgot, SCOTUS destroyed what was left of the 10th Amendment yesterday
15 posted on 06/27/2003 12:33:03 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: SC_Republican
"mmmm....FOOTBALL"

Any opin on the ACC expansion?
16 posted on 06/27/2003 12:33:45 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
See #15. At the state government level, I have no issue with such laws. Should have clarified. Sorry about that :)
17 posted on 06/27/2003 12:34:27 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Glad Ky. did this 2 years ago. It cut out about 99% of the unwanted calls.
18 posted on 06/27/2003 12:39:57 PM PDT by somedaysoon
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To: billbears
Laws like this at the national level? No, not according to the Constitution

This is pretty clearly interstate commerce, and it has been well established in this country that the fedgov can regulate that. Too often, they push the bounds of what can justifiably be called interstate commerce, but this isn't one of them.

19 posted on 06/27/2003 12:40:10 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: billbears
You know, this SCOTUS thing is way bigger than the public reaction would indicate. Rush (and you) are right. This is so much bigger than the issue the ruling applies to. And the sheeple don't have a clue. What do we need states or elected officials for when it's really 9 people who make the laws of the land.

20 posted on 06/27/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
took me about half an hour to register
been waiting nearly that for my two minute confirmation email
21 posted on 06/27/2003 12:45:35 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I'm really an SEC guy (GO DAWGS!), but I'd love to see Miami and Vtech int the ACC.

THe big East is getting screwed though.
22 posted on 06/27/2003 12:50:42 PM PDT by SC_Republican (mmmm....FOOTBALL)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
Not only did you change the title of the article, you got it wrong. It's one thousand people per SECOND.
23 posted on 06/27/2003 12:51:06 PM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: SC_Republican
The idea that Donna Shalala is calling the shot for Miami makes me want to puke. Maybe she'll consult Janet Reno and they'll burn down the campus.
24 posted on 06/27/2003 12:55:34 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: billbears
Laws like this at the national level? No, not according to the Constitution...

Doesn't the Constitution mention something about regulating Interstate Commerce (Article I Section 8 to be exact: To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states...)?

I'm quite sure that all of the calls I get are not exclusivly from my home state.

25 posted on 06/27/2003 12:55:37 PM PDT by SC_Republican (mmmm....FOOTBALL)
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To: SC_Republican
I'm quite sure that all of the calls I get are not exclusivly from my home state.

Most of them are purposely not from your own state to skirt existing laws on the book blocking such calls from within states.

26 posted on 06/27/2003 1:07:24 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
1,000 people per second?

Their site says 385,000 were verified in a 4 hour period. The 1,000 per second seems high.

27 posted on 06/27/2003 1:14:19 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sorry, but this tag line has been blocked by the FTC "do not tag" list!)
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To: SC_Republican
there is already a way to get off of most mail marketing lists. see: http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/protect.htm#Direct

i don't know why they should charge you $5 for this, but it's something you can do if you're truly ticked by junk mail and it is the industry making an attempt to regulate itself (no feds that i can see).

as to the phone calls - if they didn't use computerized systems that dial every freakin' phone, maybe they wouldn't be in this mess. have you ever been in an office with consecutive phone numbers as one phone after another rang w/these stupid calls?

i pay for an unlisted, unpublished number and still got these calls (because of the computer dial system). even if you tell the salesperson not to call you, either they aren't in control of the list or they don't care. all i know is that it hasn't worked for me.

what seems to work so far is getting the phone number blocked. i did this about a month ago and can't think of any telemarketers calling, other than those w/whom i already do business.

28 posted on 06/27/2003 1:17:28 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: D. Brian Carter
My mistake. I was rushed when I was writing the headline.
29 posted on 06/27/2003 1:19:44 PM PDT by PeaceCorpsGuy
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To: SC_Republican
Well, there is going to be a whole new group applying for unemployment. Most of these jobs are minimum wage. I found it a minor inconvience, as compared to computing my quarterly taxes.

How about a law against people smacking their lips while they eat in public. Yeah, and what about those offensive bumper stickers?

It won't be long before we can trash all those laws about what we can't do, and replace with what is allowed. All on one piece of paper double spaced.

30 posted on 06/27/2003 1:22:51 PM PDT by stubernx98
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
I know you're kinda new around here... to prevent double posting of articles and allow others to search to see if an article has been posted, don't change the original headline. If you must put comments in the title, place them in parentheses after the title. And welcome to FR.

Have fun in the Philippines... I've got a young lady friend over there and would love to be joining you. However, I'm leaving for USArmy BCT in October, so won't be making any trips to PI for awhile.
31 posted on 06/27/2003 1:38:22 PM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: billbears
Yes, by all means. Heaven knows we need the national government to regulate something else for us don't we? The new 'conservative' agenda: Don't like it? Have the national government pass a law against it.

I agree. In fact, I think they are already regulated too much. All laws regulating telemarketing, or any other industry in fact, should be removed. I mean, who really cares if someone calls you at three in the morning, doesn't tell you who they are, and asks you to buy home insurance or they will burn down your house.

This is America, doggone it! People should be able to do what they want!

32 posted on 06/27/2003 1:48:22 PM PDT by meisterbrewer
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To: billbears
Hey billbears. I agree that the states should be passing the laws, but I'm curious about something.

Could a telemarketing firm call a state that had those laws as long as they were situated in a state that did?

For example, a telemarketing firm in California (which does not have the law) could legally call a resident in Texas (which does have the law) because California firms are not held responsible for Texas laws.

Therefore, these firms would just be limited to operating in states that didn't have the law, making the law moot. Right?

I know I am I missing something . . . Sorry for the ignorance . . .
33 posted on 06/27/2003 2:01:55 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe
Therefore, these firms would just be limited to operating in states that didn't have the law, making the law moot. Right? I know I am I missing something . . . Sorry for the ignorance . . .

Tee hee.

34 posted on 06/27/2003 2:08:41 PM PDT by meisterbrewer
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To: theophilusscribe
I see your point and my solution would require vigilance at the state level to elect officials that would see that is not only the rights of the states but responsibilities of the separate states to do what the majority of their citizens so desire

However in no way do I see a national government solution as fixing anything. Adding another level of bureaucracy and a whole line of sit on your A$$ jobs to be handed out like candy that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

35 posted on 06/27/2003 2:13:31 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: meisterbrewer
I mean, who really cares if someone calls you at three in the morning, doesn't tell you who they are, and asks you to buy home insurance or they will burn down your house.

Hmmm, caller ID, telemarketer block provided by private industry, and existing laws already in place should be able to handle a situation like that.

But you're right!! I agree, we need to get the national government involved in something else. Lord knows no one at that level, of either party, knows what the Constitution says anymore so let's get'em involved in this too

36 posted on 06/27/2003 2:16:14 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
How does this affect me calling past customers?
37 posted on 06/27/2003 2:24:24 PM PDT by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: billbears
that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that there is NO need for the government to get any bigger or suck more money from our paychecks. (Aaaaargh! God forbid!!!)

Of course, whether states take responsibility, or feds do, there will be a new army of government workers to implement it (probably ex-telemarketers with a vendetta. LOL!).

I also wonder how hard it will be for the feds to actually enforce this law.

It seems pretty impossible unless the new army of federal workers includes a new army of trial lawyers.

(sigh) Well, at least Edwards will have something to do after he loses the Democratic primary.

:o)

38 posted on 06/27/2003 2:36:10 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: billbears
However in no way do I see a national government solution as fixing anything. Adding another level of bureaucracy and a whole line of sit on your A$$ jobs to be handed out like candy that will be paid for out of my paycheck is what I see out of this

I don't know how much "bureaucracy" and "sit on your A$$ jobs" are involved, but at least be reassured that it's not coming out of your wallet. The system will be paid for by subscription fees paid by the telemarketers.

39 posted on 06/27/2003 2:38:55 PM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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To: billbears
Hmmm, caller ID, telemarketer block provided by private industry, and existing laws already in place should be able to handle a situation like that.

You, of course, know that caller ID was only provided by the industry when legislation was threatened, and even then by only some states. That's why I still receive "out of area" calls all the time.

40 posted on 06/27/2003 2:41:02 PM PDT by meisterbrewer
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To: kevkrom
The system will be paid for by subscription fees paid by the telemarketers.

Thanks. Good to know!

41 posted on 06/27/2003 2:42:17 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: PeaceCorpsGuy
"When Americans are sitting down to dinner or a parent is reading to his or her child, the last thing they need is a call from a stranger with a sales pitch," Bush said in a White House Rose Garden ceremony.

LOL! At least we wont have to worry about answering an annoying phone call, while America is literally being invaded by millions of illegal aliens, while the Democrats and Republican stand winking and nodding at this attack on our sovereignty....Sheesh!

42 posted on 06/27/2003 2:47:38 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
At least we wont have to worry about answering an annoying phone call, while America is literally being invaded by millions of illegal aliens

And how exactly are these two things related?

43 posted on 06/27/2003 2:56:27 PM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Since this story broke no calls have come to me, I usually get at least 2 per day.

Anyone else notice this?

44 posted on 06/27/2003 2:56:55 PM PDT by norraad
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To: norraad
Oh yeah, we've noticed, and we are all and celebrating and having a block party. You betcha, this is just what the country needed.
45 posted on 06/27/2003 3:14:10 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Budge
Ping!
46 posted on 06/27/2003 3:18:42 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Amazing, I know we should be concerned with "more important" thangs, but I'm excited, this is worth all the tax I've paid to me.

This is the first time I can remember being truly grateful the guv'ment has helped me.

Oh, no, is that good or bad, am I becoming a 'rat?

47 posted on 06/27/2003 3:40:23 PM PDT by norraad
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Over 1000 people per second signed for the Department of Homeland Security's "Do not kill me" list, the DHS reported today. The list, created in response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 is designed to help the federal government meet its constitutional responsibility to protect Americans against being killed during dinner.

"When Americans are sitting down to dinner or a parent is reading to his or her child the last thing they need is to be killed by a terrorist armed with an Iraqi-made WMD smuggled through Syria or Iran", President Bush said at a White House ceremony inaugurating the project. "So we are taking practical action to address this problem."

The Federal Government created the national registry to make it easier and more efficient for Americans to stop getting killed by the enemies of freedom and our way of life. Illegal immigrants, Muslim asylum seekers and rampaging politicians are exempt from the registry.

48 posted on 06/27/2003 3:41:56 PM PDT by palmer (q)
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