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At the end of a Childs movie this was found...
June 27th, 2003 | Ice Flyer

Posted on 06/27/2003 3:54:56 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER

We found something off today on one of the kids movies that we own. At the end of the film we ejected it out and just by chance noticed that a substantial amount of tape was left on it. Being a store bought tape (Wal-Mart) I thought it odd as most any movie you buy has just enough tape for its previews and the movie itself and little left over.

After we fast forwarded thru the end credits I was absolutely shocked to find about 40 minutes of a conference led by a Michael Ruppert (Someone I did not even know of until today) and his speaking to an audience at Portland State University.

It would have been one thing if it was a moment or tow of this as a mistake at the time the tape was created but this was about 45 minutes of this.

It had Michael Ruppert laying out his claims on how our government set up and knew of the impending attackes on the World Trade Center and how the CIA is a drug trader and on and on. How Bush stole the election.

Additionally, in the film was an interview with Congressman Ron Paul, Shelia Jackson Lee and one other.

What in the hell is this doing at the end of a kids movie?????

Has anyone else seen this before or heard of this??


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1 posted on 06/27/2003 3:54:57 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER
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To: ICE-FLYER
By the way, the name of the kids movie was ICE AGE
2 posted on 06/27/2003 3:55:43 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
What was the name of the kid's movie?
3 posted on 06/27/2003 3:56:07 PM PDT by Hazzardgate (if you get my drift)
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To: Hazzardgate
Oops, posted before i saw that ;-(

You should get in touch with 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment, the studio that produced Ice Age.

5 posted on 06/27/2003 3:57:32 PM PDT by Hazzardgate (if you get my drift)
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To: ICE-FLYER
That's genuinely odd.
6 posted on 06/27/2003 3:58:23 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: ICE-FLYER
I think somebody previously rented the tape and replaced it in the cartridge with a longer tape containing the movie and his whack job political views as a way of spreading them.
There is a good chance his fingerprints are somewhere in the cart.
Look for a website of one of the corporate antipiracy websites for someone to report it to.

So9

7 posted on 06/27/2003 3:59:22 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Probably a tape that got sent back due to lack of sale and they recycled it. Or just a problem with the mass production machine. I had a book once where one cluster of pages (not even a clean chapter or anything) were in there twice, the second time replacing the cluster that should have been there (so it was like 50 - 100 twice with no 101 - 151). These machines go pretty fast and it doesn't take much to screw up a copy, it's amazing how few get messed up actually.
8 posted on 06/27/2003 3:59:25 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: ICE-FLYER
New-in-the-box, still shrink-wrapped, unopened, regular speed, store-bought?

Kinda weird. Make a copy of it before you return it.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 3:59:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite
I would call the distributor of the film. I think that ICE AGE Is a Disney film, and tell them exactly what happened.
10 posted on 06/27/2003 4:02:27 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: ICE-FLYER
Hundreds of angry e-mails poured in. Some accused me of being a sophisticated CIA disinformation agent. Others claimed I was hopelessly naive. (Could I be both?) Much of it concerned two men, Michael Ruppert and Delmart "Mike" Vreeland. Ruppert, a former Los Angeles cop, runs a website that has cornered a large piece of the alternative-9/11 market. An American who was jailed in Canada, Vreeland claims to be a US naval intelligence officer who tried to warn the authorities before the attacks. Ruppert cites Vreeland to back up his allegation that the CIA had "foreknowledge" of the 9/11 attacks and that there is a strong case for "criminal complicity on the part of the U.S. government in their execution." My article discounted their claims. But, I discovered, the two men had a loyal--and vocal--following. They were being booked on Pacifica stations. Ruppert was selling a video and giving speeches around the world. (In February, he filled a theater in Sacramento.) I decided to take a second--and deeper--look at the pair and key pieces of the 9/11 conspiracy movement.
Mike Ruppert is a liar and a moron.
11 posted on 06/27/2003 4:06:42 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: ICE-FLYER
Sounds like Wal-Mart's selling cheap bootlegs - tapes that never sold, being recycled (likely in China) with more popular content.
12 posted on 06/27/2003 4:06:45 PM PDT by dead
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To: Servant of the Nine
I think somebody previously rented the tape and replaced it in the cartridge with a longer tape containing the movie and his whack job political views as a way of spreading them. There is a good chance his fingerprints are somewhere in the cart.

I would like to believe that but the tape itself has all the original print on its surface identifying it as ICE AGE and it would not have this if it were a blank tape.

13 posted on 06/27/2003 4:07:12 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Hildy

20th Century Fox Home Entertainment

Report that for sure. They'll probably send you a bunch of swag too!

14 posted on 06/27/2003 4:07:37 PM PDT by Hazzardgate (if you get my drift)
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jeez, all i ever get at the end of my movies is the same lyndon larouche speech.
15 posted on 06/27/2003 4:09:26 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
It isn't difficult to crack an original cart and replace the tape. Nor is it difficult with a color scanner and printer to make duplicate labels. Either method will produce a cart that looks factory original.

So9

16 posted on 06/27/2003 4:10:46 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Hahaha - good one!

But seriously, DVDs are the way to go - no messy propaganda snuck onto the unused spaces. And don't get me started on the subject of Wal-Mart...
17 posted on 06/27/2003 4:14:00 PM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: Servant of the Nine
It isn't difficult to crack an original cart and replace the tape. Nor is it difficult with a color scanner and printer to make duplicate labels. Either method will produce a cart that looks factory original. So9

True, However, there is no lable on this tape. As on many of the movies sold today in VHA format the surface of the tape itself has the white only lettering and logos of the film title, the FBI warning and the logos of 20th Century Fox. Yes, easy to print on a lable, but not to spray on the case of the cassett itself. I am willing to bet it was a recycled tape mismatched for its length and this garbage was on the end. The guy makes amazing accusations, thats for sure. I wonder how Ron pAul ties in and its easy to see why the shrieking Shelia Jackson Lee is in it.

18 posted on 06/27/2003 4:14:09 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Will you please post what they say when you return the tape, I'd like to know what the explaination is for this one. Thanks!



Photogirl
19 posted on 06/27/2003 4:20:14 PM PDT by photogirl (Go faster, or get out of my way...)
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To: ICE-FLYER
I'd heard that Rupert Murdock was taking over the media. Looks like he's found another outlet.
20 posted on 06/27/2003 4:26:09 PM PDT by gitmo (What's in the Constitution isn't. And vice-versa.)
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To: gitmo
Michael Ruppert.
21 posted on 06/27/2003 4:35:36 PM PDT by kcordell
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To: ICE-FLYER
Did you try to play the kids section backwards?
22 posted on 06/27/2003 4:37:32 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Honcho Bongs
But seriously, DVDs are the way to go - no messy propaganda snuck onto the unused spaces.

The downside is that the program material on DVDs can disable your remote - which will make it possible for messy propaganda (e.g., commercials) to be placed before the feature; and you won't be able to fast-forward through it. You know it's coming.

23 posted on 06/27/2003 4:44:37 PM PDT by snarkpup
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To: kcordell
Never mind.
24 posted on 06/27/2003 4:46:45 PM PDT by gitmo (What's in the Constitution isn't. And vice-versa.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
I've had this happen once. Following the end of a Disney movie there was the end of another movie.

I assumed it was recycled,but your's I don't know. Too wierd.
25 posted on 06/27/2003 4:53:35 PM PDT by lizma
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To: ICE-FLYER
I think we got our copy of Ice Age at Walmart, but it has no such additional footage.
26 posted on 06/27/2003 4:58:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." --James Madison)
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To: lizma
Same here. Good Morning Vietnam picks up at the end of Lion King
27 posted on 06/27/2003 5:24:06 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Honcho Bongs
DVDs are worth it just for not having to sit through (FF>> through) 10 minutes of "previews")
28 posted on 06/27/2003 5:37:31 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
ICE AGE

Isn't that a Disney flick?
29 posted on 06/27/2003 5:51:36 PM PDT by alnick
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To: ICE-FLYER
QUICKLY - PULL YOUR SHADES AND KILL YOUR LIGHTS! DON'T SILOUETTE YOURSELF AGAINST THE WINDOWS OR DOORS.

You have obviously intercepted a specially prepared communique for an operative in the Illuminati infrastructure. The kid's video ploy is an old trick of subversives and black operations going back beyond the anti-Pharonic elements in the Masonry guild behind the pyramid construction. The video store is a 'drop' and the deceptively normal staff are, no doubt, highly trained agents. A sure clue is to look for earings on the men and tatoos that might be visible or partially concealed under the suspects clothing.

There is little doubt that deeper coding exists behind the 'blind' material that, apparently, is conspiratorial in nature so as to fool the superficial investigator.

Please, for your safety, call the FBI immediately and until they arrive, immerse the tape in a pail of soapy water to neutralize the self-destruction plastique used in such materials.

GOOD LUCK, ICE-FLYER! AND, AS ALWAYS, SHOULD YOU, OR ANY OF YOUR FAMILY BE CAUGHT OR NEUTRALIZED, I WILL DISAVOW ANY KNOWLEDGE OF YOU OR YOUR FR POST.



30 posted on 06/27/2003 5:51:53 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Honcho Bongs
And they are so easy to rewind!
31 posted on 06/27/2003 6:01:59 PM PDT by irishtenor (Red Green is my hero.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Some dude told me this, so i dont if its true, you might want to check up on it. He told me walmart pays the film companies a flat sum, and then walmart has rights to produce as many of those movies for sale. This would mean your ICE AGE movie was produced by walmart and not the film company.

This would also mean that Walmart is a totalitarian marxist organization disguised as small town southern hicks.

32 posted on 06/27/2003 6:06:58 PM PDT by chudogg
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"You're still here? Its over, go home."


33 posted on 06/27/2003 6:18:19 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Oops, musta linked to Madonna's website.


34 posted on 06/27/2003 6:21:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Honcho Bongs
But seriously, DVDs are the way to go - no messy propaganda snuck onto the unused spaces. And don't get me started on the subject of Wal-Mart...

But Wal-Mart has all those cool $5.88 DVDs.

35 posted on 06/27/2003 6:26:15 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: ICE-FLYER
You are obviously the chosen one by getting the secret tape.

I wouldn't take that too seriously.
36 posted on 06/27/2003 6:27:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
DVDs are worth it just for not having to sit through (FF>> through) 10 minutes of "previews")

I had a DVD once (I may still have it; I don't remember which movie it was) with a bunch of previews which would play immediately upon loading, with the FF button disabled.

37 posted on 06/27/2003 6:28:34 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: chudogg
Some dude told me this, so i dont if its true, you might want to check up on it. He told me walmart pays the film companies a flat sum, and then walmart has rights to produce as many of those movies for sale. This would mean your ICE AGE movie was produced by walmart and not the film company.

This would also mean that Walmart is a totalitarian marxist organization disguised as small town southern hicks.

Media distribution companies usually produce video tapes in bulk for large accounts. They produce the product, stock the shelves, and control the inventory inside of big stores like K-mart or Wally World. They also handle the royalty payments to the owner of the product.

Handleman Co. is a large "media distributor" in the Detroit area. They got in trouble with K-mart with some kiddie tape that had 45 minutes of x-rated porno at the end of it.

It turned out they had bought "economy" VHS tapes from a California distributor. For an extra ten cents per tape, it would be delivered degaussed (erased), but Handleman wouldn't spend the money. Without knowing, or caring, what might have been on the tape previously, they mastered the shorter children's program over the previous contents. Then ten thousand copies were shipped to K-marts all over the country.

The stink was so bad that Detroit newspapers couldn't keep it covered up, and actually reported the details. Considering Handleman is run by wealthy socialist RATS, I enjoyed the schadenfreude.

38 posted on 06/27/2003 6:52:07 PM PDT by 300winmag (All that is gold does not glitter.)
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To: snarkpup
Already here, they don't disable the remote they just ignore certain orders (my DVD player gives me a slashed circle in the corner when it can't do what I'm telling it to). Though the couple I've run into you can use the chapter skip to jump to the next preview or if you're in the last one to get to the menu.
39 posted on 06/27/2003 6:58:06 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Are you sure that you bought the tape new from Wal-Mart and not "pre-viewed" from Blockbuster? It sounds like a rental tape that someone's tampered with.

(I once knew someone who used to re-dub rentals tapes with audio from porn tapes. OK... so I have some sick friends.)
40 posted on 06/27/2003 7:08:10 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Some idiot may have conterfeited a copy of that movie, and then stuck this on to the end of it.
41 posted on 06/27/2003 7:09:08 PM PDT by rs79bm (Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence)
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To: ICE-FLYER
"It had Michael Ruppert laying out his claims on how our government set up and knew of the impending attackes on the World Trade Center and how the CIA is a drug trader and on and on. How Bush stole the election."

Two out of three ain't bad.

42 posted on 06/27/2003 7:16:31 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: ICE-FLYER
41 posts and this thread has not been pulled. Thats one way to do it ICE. Good for you because I like the old coyboy days of FR. Free Speech is the way to go and it should take a lot more to pull a thread.
43 posted on 06/27/2003 7:17:25 PM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall
"41 posts and this thread has not been pulled. Thats one way to do it ICE. Good for you because I like the old coyboy days of FR. Free Speech is the way to go and it should take a lot more to pull a thread."

Ok, but its not about what was on it though what was on the tape is seriously weird, it was about it being on a kids movie tape.

44 posted on 06/27/2003 7:38:22 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
If this thread starts to roll it will be pulled. That worries me because five years ago threads like this did not get pulled on FR. I trust Bush, but I need Free Speech in order to discern.
45 posted on 06/27/2003 7:43:25 PM PDT by TBall
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To: ICE-FLYER
Email FOX News. They'll check it out and see if it's a one time thing or a pattern. Odd story.
46 posted on 06/27/2003 10:03:10 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: WorkingClassFilth
man!--I was gonna say THAT!! Are you reading my mind before I think sumthin?
47 posted on 06/27/2003 10:03:21 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: ICE-FLYER
You should also consider the possibility that it was just someone's idea of a prank.
48 posted on 06/27/2003 10:17:45 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Honcho Bongs
You mean "China Mart" !!
49 posted on 06/28/2003 12:54:05 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!!)
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To: drhogan
"Are you reading my mind before I think sumthin?"

No.

But I am watching you very, very closely.
50 posted on 06/28/2003 10:24:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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