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California’s Racial Iceberg
Newsmax ^ | 6/28/03 | Patrick Mallon

Posted on 06/27/2003 11:17:05 PM PDT by LdSentinal

Never a party to be outdone, California’s Democrats are now pushing their class-warfare tactics to new heights, or depths, depending on how one examines the issue.

Now in control of every level of state government, they manifest an abject reluctance to address (let alone acknowledge) their financial negligence. The governor deflects rumors that he will resign, and Assembly Speaker Herb Wesson trots around the state campaigning for increased taxes, seeking a vindication of reality only he can understand.

The Democratic majority, the "Untouchables," move further left, continuing to push for driver’s licenses as well as Mexico-issued ID cards for the millions of illegal immigrants living in the state.

Late-night comedy shows consistently find material from the crazy legislation and knucklehead ideas that surface out of Sacramento and become law. We tend to examine what each of the parties does on a partisan basis, without any real discussion of who the individual legislators are, what they believe or what they say. In fact, very few people in California can even name their assembly person or state senator.

This piece examines what several very powerful California politicians have revealed in their own words, perhaps divulging where ultimate loyalties reside, using words many would consider incendiary and racist. If one definition of loyalty is "faithful in allegiance to one’s lawful government," then we may have some real problems on our hands.

The outward appearance of California Democrats actually performing the job they raised their right hand and swore to do is both a myth and a strategy.

The myth is that they are looking out for the public’s best interest. The strategy is to thrust new taxes upon the public to pay for services for illegal immigrants, knowing the "brotherhood of silence" in the press has rubber-stamped a Hispanics-as-victims script that trumps neutral pursuit of facts.

If this party had even a modicum of concern for both the financial and security interests of California, it would engage in an honest and open debate about the costs and sustainable assimilation of immigrants, most of whom are decent people, balanced against the overwhelming burdens on strapped taxpayers, enforcement of immigration law, and the legitimate threats posed by porous borders.

Pictures From Below the Surface

The following quotes show these Democrats' true feelings.

Art Torres, California Democratic Party chairman, at the Latino Summit Response to Prop 187 at U.C. Riverside (Jan. 14, 1995):

"Power is not given to you, you have to take it! People say to me when I was on the Senate floor, when I was in the Senate, why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs. And I tell my white colleagues: because you're gonna need them. Remember, 187 is the last gasp of white America."

Antonio Villaraigosa, former speaker of the California State Assembly and present Los Angeles City Council member-elect, discussing Prop 187 with a KABC-TV, Los Angeles reporter (July 29, 1999):

Reporter: "What happens to the will of the people?"

Villaraigosa: "Well, the will of the people is something all of us have to respect, but when the will of the people is unconstitutional, the will of the people is null and void."

Mario Obledo, former California secretary of health and welfare and co-founder of Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), interviewed on radio station KIEV, Los Angeles (June 17, 1998):

"We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. If they [Anglos] don't like Mexicans, they ought to go back to Europe."

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, speaking at the 1997 Southwest Voter Registration Education Project:

"We demand to be counted. And what we know as well is that the big giant that they keep talking about is awakening. And he's pretty angry about what's going on. Ya basta! [Enough!] This community is no longer going to stand for it. … And our vote is going to be important. But I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.'"

Pay who back?

Fabian Nunez, California assemblyman, at the Latino Summit Response to Prop 187 at U.C. Riverside (Jan. 14, 1995):

"Each of you, get ten people to go with us on that march in Washington, D.C., and I guarantee you just as we mobilized 150,000 to the streets of Los Angeles on October 16, we will mobilize 1 million people and bring Washington to a standstill, and those rednecks that are out there making decisions for the betterment of their communities will think twice before they push forward anti- immigrant legislation against our community."

State Sen. Nell Soto, D-Ontario, June 25, 2003, San Bernardino Town Hall meeting to discuss SB60, the bill that would grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, responding to critics who say the legislation promotes illegal immigration:

"Guess what?" Soto said. "The immigrants are already here. I welcome them. I hope they keep coming."

Do any of these quotes strike anyone as marginally racist or irresponsible?

'Since We Stole It, Let Them Steal It Back'

On June 17, I watched an incredible exchange during the legislative hearing over the Matricula Consular card (SB522) introduced by Manny Diaz, D-San Jose. The bill would require every state public officer or employee to accept, for identification purposes, the card as equivalent to a California driver’s license or ID card issued by the DMV.

Statements in favor included MALDEF, La Raza, the League of California Cities, the City of Los Angeles, and The Friends Committee on Legislation.

When the speaker stated "Opposition to the Bill?" a clearly audible "Oh God, same jerks" could be heard by all.

Statements opposed included several law enforcement and police organizations and the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform (FAIR). Yeh Ling-Ling, the executive director of the Diversity Alliance for a Sustainable America (DASA), stated:

"It frightens me to see that our government is accepting ID cards issued by foreign governments. For example, in the land of my ancestry, China, the level of fraudulent documents is very high. Let’s say from the Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, where I lived, with money you can buy basically anything. Including documents.

"After the bombings [Sept. 11], I urged Congress to protect our borders. Very few congressional members listened. After the bombings, where thousands of people died, people were saying, it was unthinkable. Please, think of the list of what Mexico has been trying to do. What Mexican-American leaders, what many of them, have said. Mario Obledo said in 1998, quote, ‘eventually we are going to take over all the political institutions of California.’

"They said publicly that they are going to use immigration to control the Southwest, retake the Southwest, and eventually, take over the entire U.S. So please listen to those statements carefully."

Interruption by State Sen. John Vasconcellos, D-San Jose: "Since we stole it from them, why do you say it’s unfair to steal it back from us?"

Yeh Ling-Ling: "I’m sorry?"

Vasconcellos: "We stole it from them in the first place."

Yeh Ling-Ling: "Exactly what do you want to have happen?"

Vasconcellos: "I found your testimony (shaking his head, putting his glasses down) … I don’t want to debate you."

Yeh Ling-Ling: (with a questioning look) "Exactly?"

Vasconcellos: "I don’t want to debate you. I’ve listened to what you’ve had to say, period."

Since nobody in the chamber voiced any objection to Vasconcellos’ remarks, the reasonable inference is, yes, the Left is moving even further left, and American legislators like Vasconcellos believe that since Mexico was stolen by the U.S., there really isn’t anything to debate.

It should be noted as well that Ling-Ling has been confronted by other California Democrats while delivering similar testimony. Recently, during a hearing on SB60 (driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants), Sen. Nell Soto castigated Ling-Ling in a manner similar to Vasconcellos’, stating that her remarks were "blatantly racist," had no place at a legislative hearing and "really insulted the intelligence of some of us here."

Ling-Ling, whose group is based in Oakland, responded from the audience: "They were quotes, OK, from Mexican-American leaders."

What could Soto say? It was an embarrassing moment for SB60 backers.

We All Need to Remember Our History

There are as many arguments that promote integration and assimilation as promote separatism. What we need to be well aware of is the history nobody can deny. In a nutshell, and not to oversimplify:

1821: Spain accepts Mexican independence.

1836: Texas breaks free of Mexican rule.

1846-48: Mexico loses much of its territory in the Mexican-American War. Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo signed.

1867: American Union Army assists Mexico’s Benito Juarez, a democratic reformer, removes France from Mexico.

1910: Mexican Revolution.

1914: U.S. Marines enter Veracruz.

1916: U.S. chases Pancho Villa out of New Mexico.

1938: Mexico nationalizes PEMEX. Cardenas and Roosevelt sign Good Neighbor Policy.

1942: Mexico supports U.S. in WWII. Relations generally stable during postwar years.

1960s: Tourism industry thrives, Mexican nationalism rises.

1971: U.S. imposes 10 percent tariff on all imports, hurting Mexico, which sends almost 70 percent of its exports to the U.S.

1980s: Mexico supports nationalist movements in Nicaragua and El Salvador. U.S. drug war creates mutual tensions.

1992: North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) signed. U.S. moves plants to Mexico to exploit cheap labor.

1995: Devastating Mexican peso devaluation.

2003: Mexican population in U.S. reported to have increased 10 percent in just three years, mostly as a result of illegal immigration.

History is never pretty, but ultimately, each nation is responsible to its own citizens first (the U.S. apparently excepted). Since Mexico is unable to reform its endemic corruption, forcing the majority to live in poverty and squalor, it exports its economic problems to the U.S., then blames the U.S.

California is a state where many schools today, as a policy, suppress references to our nation’s Founding Fathers. Portraits of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are prohibited. In San Francisco, a student needs a lawyer to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

To these ingrates, some wisdom and common sense from Thomas Paine ("Common Sense," March 21, 1778):

"To argue with a man who has renounced the authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture."

Our laws, and generosity with taxpayer dollars, are literally inviting Mexico’s poor to migrate to California at a time when we claim to be broke, while we increase border enforcement and deportations. It’s an absolutely crazy situation.

Meanwhile, back in Sacramento, the place where race is everything, laws are pushed to make the situation worse. And nobody will talk about it, except perhaps those who claim California belongs to Mexico.

The irony in all this is that the "progressives" actually want to go backward in history to find justification to correct past injustices and keep their followers on the plantation. "Conservatives" want to be realistic about where we are today and go forward, but are accused of being stuck in the past. Go figure.

Until the dishonesty and tactical bluster cease, California is at serious risk of becoming a Third World entity, and the longer Democrats are in power, the more businesses will continue to flee the state, the more wealthy taxpayers will relocate and the more our standard of living will continue to decline.

The country knows few Democrats who can sustain an argument in favor of the policies of their party. But they know many who will sling the mud when reason, fact and common sense fail. All the reason why "Throw the bums out!" has become California’s new pastime.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; hispanics; immigrantlist; latinos; recall
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1 posted on 06/27/2003 11:17:05 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
Art Torres, Antonio Villaraigosa, Mario Obledo, Gloria Molina, Fabian Nunez, and Nell Soto. Each and every one of them a stinking racist.
2 posted on 06/27/2003 11:22:04 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: LdSentinal
In fact, very few people in California can even name their assembly person or state senator.

It's called selective amnesia. Traumatic events are stifled when one's brain can't handle it. All I need to know is that I didn't vote for them...

3 posted on 06/27/2003 11:35:53 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: judgeandjury
Damn Skippy.
4 posted on 06/27/2003 11:36:35 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: judgeandjury
Art Torres, Antonio Villaraigosa, Mario Obledo, Gloria Molina, Fabian Nunez, and Nell Soto.

These are the real racist in California, their statements are well documented. They are nothing but traitorous, racist criminals, with clear anti-American agendas....

5 posted on 06/27/2003 11:38:39 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: LdSentinal
Because DemocRAT Davis would not continue the validation of Prop 187 in the courts, it is now coming back to haunt California.

Pray for bankruptcy.

It may be the only chance for California to set things right.

6 posted on 06/27/2003 11:47:45 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: LdSentinal
I travel to Mexico often. It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. Poverty, corruption, racism, extreme classism......No thanks.
7 posted on 06/27/2003 11:48:16 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: LdSentinal
We should let Mexico think that they have won in the SW. And then using heavy armor units (Ft Hood?), roll our border south a few hundred miles - depopulating the countryside as we go. NAFTA? We don't need no stinking NAFTA.
8 posted on 06/27/2003 11:55:02 PM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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To: happygrl
Because DemocRAT Davis would not continue the validation of Prop 187 in the courts, it is now coming back to haunt California.

Look, I don't really give a baboons butt what some leftist screw worm governor, or the democrats did regarding 187. As far as I am concerned the Federal government which initially stepped in and burned our ballots was in conspiracy with the politico bozos on the state level to bury 187.

The bottom line here is the fish stinks from the head and it's the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS RESPONSIBILITY TO SECURE AND PROTECT OUR FEDERAL BORDERS, GAWD DAMN IT.

Look at the states all over this country, the same damn thing is happening, I mean everywhere! Once these millions of illegals enter, the politicos in almost every state are pandering to these criminals and we are paying the big price. The fish stinks from the head, it's the federal government!!!

9 posted on 06/27/2003 11:59:58 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Get out of there, my friend. The ship of California is lost. Put your personal flotation device on and get into the lifeboat. Get to another state while the ForniaLibs change their state bird to the housefly.

We can build another fence and they can flood us from Mexifornia, once they have turned it into a corrupt, lazy, disease-ridden, turd-world dump. That should buy us some time to flee farther inland.

Get outta there before it's too late!
10 posted on 06/28/2003 12:40:48 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
Uh, what do you suggest, Phoenix?
11 posted on 06/28/2003 12:44:39 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: LdSentinal
Mario Obledo: "We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. If they [Anglos] don't like Mexicans, they ought to go back to Europe."

Hey Mario, if we leave, where will you get your wellfare and free medical? Hmmm? Where will you get clean water, UNDERGROUND sewers, roads that don't suck, people who show up on time for work and do a good job? Hmmm? I guess you will just have to follow us to Europe to escape the alternate $hithole you create. Then you can degrade Europe into a cesspool, too. Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.
12 posted on 06/28/2003 12:50:49 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
Get outta there before it's too late!

Running away aint my style.....You can't run from this government sponsored invasion. LOL. Hell, they are behind you and in front of you, where you going to run too?

13 posted on 06/28/2003 12:53:21 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Thorondir
California has already lost the critical mass of productive citizens that are necessary to support the welfare state. The anti-business tactics of the state government are accelerating the exodus of business and employed people. Politically, the welfare class owns the ballot box. I don't think that will ever change. It was that critical observation that prompted my own exit in December 2000.
14 posted on 06/28/2003 12:59:59 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LdSentinal
Flee.
If you are in California, get out of that place as fast as you can. Flee like the wind. Do not end up like the last white farmers in Zimbabwe who stayed around too long, hoping for a miracle that never came.
Good luck.
15 posted on 06/28/2003 1:01:28 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Tongue in cheek, my friend. But Mexifornia is a lost case. Perhaps it will be a good example of what people should NOT do if they don't want their states destroyed too. Perhaps that will do some good for the rest of America, if it's not already too late.
16 posted on 06/28/2003 1:03:26 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
Hey Mario, if we leave, where will you get your wellfare and free medical? Hmmm?

Ya, once California becomes part of Mexico they'll just pick up and move North again to Oregon then Washington. Eventually they'll have to go up into Canada and discover thier nice socialist system.

17 posted on 06/28/2003 1:03:34 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: LdSentinal
Darryl Issa he has spine enough to boot the Mexicans.
18 posted on 06/28/2003 2:17:01 AM PDT by Rodsomnia
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Ping
19 posted on 06/28/2003 6:58:41 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: happygrl
California never has done anything right I agree with woody allen when he stated that the only thing california has contributed to the nation was the right turn on a red light so far that looks like the only thing california can do right.
20 posted on 06/28/2003 7:34:02 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
California never has done anything right I agree with woody allen when he stated that the only thing california has contributed to the nation was the right turn on a red light so far that looks like the only thing california can do right.

DOH!

Where do you people get this crap? LOL.....Must be easy to shoot off your mouth about other states while keeping your state anonymous.....LOL.....

What conservative paradise do you live in pal?

21 posted on 06/28/2003 8:39:45 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Vaduz
California never has done anything right

Ronald Reagan.
The personal computer.
The Internet.
Now biotech.

I agree with woody allen

Woody Allen married his stepdaughter.

Masticate feces and expire, dipwad.

22 posted on 06/28/2003 9:10:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography, every day!)
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To: judgeandjury; Willie Green; Black Agnes; Regulator; Brownie74; glc1173@aol.com; A CA Guy; ...
Art Torres, Antonio Villaraigosa, Mario Obledo, Gloria Molina, Fabian Nunez, and Nell Soto. Each and every one of them a stinking racist.

This is a virtual who's who of the most vile, despicable, and traitorous seditionists in the United States today. These scumbags are living proof that one can remain a hostile Mexican nationalist even if one is elected and even if one is a U.S. citizen.

And don't forget about this snake in the grass... Senator John Vasconcellos:

"Since we stole it from them, why is it unfair for them to steal it back from us?"

Should be rotting in prison.

Watch this traitor
56k / DSL

This cerdo loco ought to be a permanent resident of Leavenworth. It's time for Americans to take back the state of California.

23 posted on 06/28/2003 9:39:58 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder; madfly; Sabertooth
ping
24 posted on 06/28/2003 9:47:22 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: All
By the way, the material posted in #23 was found here.
25 posted on 06/28/2003 9:51:40 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: LdSentinal
It is a crying shame what is happening to the USA. Someday the people responsible will have to be punished.
The bad news is the people who are mostly responsible will be long gone.
And it is happening so fast, mostly the past 10 years the P&P's have allowed mexico to dump all their trash over our border.
26 posted on 06/28/2003 10:04:56 AM PDT by winodog (Learn to speak spanish. Politicians are determined to destroy America.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Art Torres, Antonio Villaraigosa, Mario Obledo, Gloria Molina, Fabian Nunez, and Nell Soto. Each and every one of them a stinking racist.

Amazing that these traitors encourage illegal immigration when they must realize that soon there won't be anyone left here to pay the bills or their salaries.

27 posted on 06/28/2003 10:16:03 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Lancey Howard
If you are in California, get out of that place as fast as you can. Flee like the wind.

To where are you going to flee? The others will flee too once they get their benefits cut, when they realize the money is gone and taxpayers left so no more money. Then they'll find you and start over.

28 posted on 06/28/2003 10:21:04 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: LdSentinal
California is at serious risk of becoming a Third World entity,

And then California will be like Mexico is now ---exporting a lot of third world types ---and ther other states would not be able to deny immigrants from California anything. Immigrants from California are just going to move to the other states ---in very large numbers since it's such a very big bankrupt state, they'll vote the same way they did in California, which is the same way they voted in Mexico ---and the new state will go the same way.

29 posted on 06/28/2003 10:26:58 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
We only have our corrupt, pandering numbskull politicians to blame for allowing this horde of locusts to threaten the very existence of the United States. They continue to do the same thing to this day.

Ironically despicable 'tan klan' desperadoes the likes of Vasconcellos, Molina, Soto, et al must be under the impression that the land is what makes the wealth. Wrong. It's the people. And they're filling the land with the very same moochers that made Mexico the disaster it is today.

Good thinking. Typical  

30 posted on 06/28/2003 10:43:03 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Tancredo Fan
These clowns never consider why prosperity ends right after San Diego, why all opportunity exists north of the Mexican border and no opportunity exists south of that border. They want to bring the exact same culture and government they had back in Mexico, and wonder why the budget can't be balanced. Total morons is all they are.
31 posted on 06/28/2003 10:47:22 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Thorondir
>>Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.<<

2 words: Bell Gardens. For those of you not from SoKal, it is a city that had a government that was a complete latino majority. Inside of a year they had set up a corrupt patronage and crony system that would have been the envy of Tamany Hall. This is a latino thing and will follow them everywhere they go -- It was described as Mexico PRI-style politics. If Kalifornia becomes Atzlan, it will havs the same economics as Mexico, and then there WILL BE NO $$. And the illegal immigrants will try to get out of here!

Wait, maybe thats a good thing. But it will be a couple of generations and I don't want to wait. If we don't retake our state, I am so moving (and taking my 6 figure salary with me, which I can do because I am in an industry where my home doesn't matter).

32 posted on 06/28/2003 10:51:57 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Tancredo Fan
Don't voters carry some responsibility?
33 posted on 06/28/2003 11:01:34 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: Thorondir
Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.

Oh, he's got culture, all right. The same culture that made Mexico a seething pit of crime and corruption. We have the Ford Foundation to thank for the likes of this low-life. And to think that Clinton gave this arrogant barnacle the Presidential medal of freedom. Sheesh.


Mario Obledo - Co-founder of MALDEF
June, 1998

"California is going to become a Hispanic state........"
"Eventually we will take over all the political institutions of California...."
[Tom Leykis Show]
 Listen to Obledo's rants

34 posted on 06/28/2003 11:07:04 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: freedumb2003
Here is another good example of how these people run things when they have power. As most of us know, in Mexico, in the town of Ciudad Juarez, hundreds of young Mexican women and girls have been brutally murdered, often tortured and their bodies dumped outside city limits. The Mexican government doesn't care in the least what happens to them ---they aren't from the elite families. President Fox himself has done nothing at all to stop the murders ---he SHOULD be making this his number one priority ---but they're poor women --so who cares. Now they're coming up with a way of saying American military guys must be doing all the murders.

Mexico's latest 'blame switch' ludicrous

There ---they've solved the murders ---it's Americans. They do this for two reasons ---first ---they couldn't care less about solving the crime, second they love to discredit the US.

35 posted on 06/28/2003 11:08:31 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: judgeandjury
Art Torres, Antonio Villaraigosa, Mario Obledo, Gloria Molina, Fabian Nunez, and Nell Soto. Each and every one of them a stinking racist.

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Bump to the Top. This is serious. They are apparently loyal to their race above their own country.
36 posted on 06/28/2003 11:18:38 AM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: LdSentinal
Hey. This is easy. What's good for the American goose is equally good for the Mexican gander.

Translation: If it is okay for the Mexicans to invade the US with their irregular "army" of illegals, then it is entirely okay if the US invades Mexico with its own Army -- and cleans house and sets up a decent Government.

Better, yet, let's just ANNEX ALL of MEXICO: If we are responsible for feeding, housing, employing, providing health care, and paying Social Security to all of them, anyway, we might as well take over Administration of their Government, as well.
37 posted on 06/28/2003 11:22:16 AM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: judgeandjury
You forgot Vasconcellos.

Used to live in that dimwit's district. We'd get sappy pamphlets from earnest young women out canvassing for him that showed "Vasco" hugging his mom. It was ridiculous.

And his mom looked uncomfortable.

38 posted on 06/28/2003 11:26:57 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Thorondir
Then you can degrade Europe into a cesspool, too

I thought Europe was already a cesspool. :)

39 posted on 06/28/2003 11:36:39 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Tancredo Fan
'tan klan'

That is awesome. I've never heard of that. Did you make it up, or am I just behind the times? I call the flight of blacks out of lower-class neighborhoods "black tracks". That one's not quite as good as "white flight", though.

40 posted on 06/28/2003 11:42:14 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair; Tancredo Fan
Actually the way it goes is, these Mexican race mongers and Atzlan types are just "the Klan with a tan"
41 posted on 06/28/2003 11:50:20 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Regulator
Have you seen the following article?:

Senate Backs 'Freedom Ride' Planned to Improve Immigrant Workers' Status

The California State Senate, a corruption-bloated gang of AINO's (Americans in name only), are now openly backing a bunch of criminal invaders (mostly Mexicans) who are demanding amnesty. These aren't "immigrant workers", they are illegal aliens who are illegally working in the United States and are demanding to be treated like citizens.

I'm beginning to think that the sooner California collapses the better.... and it will. It's time the place was cleaned out from the ground up. It would be helpful if whomever replaces the soon to be ousted Gray Davis would come out in favor of Proposition 187.

42 posted on 06/28/2003 11:54:39 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Thorondir
Get out of there, my friend. The ship of California is lost.

I think it is definitely lost, but I am not convinced they will stop with California. They have their own "manifest destiny."

43 posted on 06/28/2003 11:56:17 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: chasio649
Don't voters carry some responsibility?

The voters in California are increasingly hispanic, along with the liberal hispanic enablers. We're being outnumbered here, and our votes have no strength anymore. Coming to your state soon, or a state near you.

44 posted on 06/28/2003 12:04:04 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"These are the real racist in California, their statements are well documented. They are nothing but traitorous, racist criminals, with clear anti-American agendas...."

So, what are you going to do about it?
46 posted on 06/28/2003 12:05:00 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Mark17
Then we have to fight them. It's the only thing left.
47 posted on 06/28/2003 12:14:06 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
Then we have to fight them. It's the only thing left.

You mean the politicians, panderers, and bad laws?

48 posted on 06/28/2003 12:15:44 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kuleana
"To all "Freepers" that continually suggest surrender; go to hell."

Hey, I'm not suggesting surrender; just the opposite. I'm saying FIGHT! What the hell, better to die a free man than live a slave or a toady for some third-world maggot.
49 posted on 06/28/2003 12:16:43 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: FITZ
"You mean the politicians, panderers, and bad laws?"

I mean anyone and anything that threatens our country, our homes and our families.
50 posted on 06/28/2003 12:18:34 PM PDT by ought-six
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