Skip to comments.Maine: Groups rally AGAINST smoking ban
Posted on 06/28/2003 6:53:43 AM PDT by SheLionEdited on 04/13/2004 2:10:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
AUBURN, Maine (AP) A former state representative and candidate for governor is joining with a number of bar owners in an effort to overturn a new law that would ban smoking in bars and pool halls.
John Michael of Auburn has notified the Secretary of State's office of his intent to launch a ''people's veto,'' an attempt to get voters to overturn the law in a referendum.
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Finally, people are starting to stand up for their personal freedoms and rights. I understand that Denver shot down the smoking ban as well. This is a wonderful stand for personal freedoms!
This is nothing more than "legal prohibition". Now some of these Do-Gooders also promote abortion, I'm sure. You figure it out!!
In NY, the state is reacting to bar owners fighting the smoking ban by issuing public service announcements about how GOOD the ban will be for you. The announcements are LADEN with numbers which they claim are statistics...though none of them are based in any scientific study. As with all leftists, they feel that an Orwellian misinformation campaign to the public will make the masses settle down and allow the state to "care for them". After all, it's for "the children". The worst part is that in NY, it just might work.
I like the guy.
I'd much rather have these laws overturned on legal and constitutional grounds, because whether the referendum passes or fails, it is still other people passing on what a property owner can or cannot do on his/her property.
Good to hear from you again!
I don't understand it either. What's even more puzzling is that many of these types would encourage the legalization of marijuana and other drugs.
I think that we need to let private businesses police themselves and if others don't like what goes on at that business, then go elsewhere.
People are fed up, Gabz! We used to look upon our lawmakers as "little gods," but now we all see that they are no better then the rest of us. They just ran for office. We could have done the same thing.
But they sit "on the hill" and hand down bills and laws to govern our lives, and with each bill and law, a little more of our personal freedoms are being taken away. I am sick of it. And I see that a LOT of people are SICK OF IT.
HEY GUV DAVIS.......FIND A NEW JOB YET?
New York is so damn liberal. Have you been listening to Ann Coulter and her new book? She tells it like it is when it comes to libs.
Have you heard of ONE Maine lawmaker that helped invest in anyone's business? I sure haven't. Pity that the lawmakers think they have a legal right to RUN the businesses, eh?
Oh! No kidding! Well, the base is a 4 minute drive from me on a good day, that's how close I am. But I am off of the beaten path, so I don't see the parade of vehicles going to the concert.
The concert is great for Aroostook economy, however, the vendors around here are rather hurt, because Phish is bringing their own food vendors. I guess they found out how much money was to be made, and they want to get in on the action.
I just hope that our vendors make out well. That's the name of the game: pump money into our hurting economy.
Hope you have a super time and be safe!
Thank you! And likewise!!!
Summer time and all of that. I hope to be back here in full force come fall. I really miss all my online friends.
I was watching Hannity and Combs last night, and Fox hired on as a commentator, Dennis Miller, the comedian? Well, he is irate over the treatment the smokers are getting from the Government. He said that he wants to help smokers live longer because if it wasn't for the smokers, there wouldn't be any money for all those programs!
Wow, he really nailed it there. After they lose the taxes from cigarettes, the "fat tax" will be in effect...and after they lose the income from the "fat tax", they'll tax caffeine or something like that....and on and on until the US will be like Germany and none of us can afford to live here anymore.
I keep saying if smoking is so bad for us, ban the damn stuff and be done with it. But......that would really throw us into a Civil War. I can't imagine me or any one who loves to smoke not being able to buy tobacco products. Can you? hehe!
ANNIE GET YOUR GUN. LOL!
My sentiments exactly!
BTW, Maine's economy is horrible. If this goes through, a lot of restaurant and tavern owners, etc. WILL go bust and things will just get worse.
Good for John Michael - I loved him in the gubernatorial debates, an iconoclast with a real sense of humor.
But I hope he pursues this from a property rights angle, since the libs have succeeded in redefining busybody-ism as morality and they have the media on their side.
Gee, I wonder if the Maine "Peoples" Alliance will come down in favor of this effort. Yeah, right.
One of them came to my door a few weeks ago, clipboard and chirpy little demeanor in hand for who knows what.
"Hi, I'm from the Maine People's Al-"
"Commies 'R Us? No thanks."
I had a warm glow for days.
So good to see you, SheLion!
OMG, I'd be up in arms. Who am I kidding, I'm up in arms
now as Florida's smoking ban goes into effect on July 1.
Actually it's not, The reason why is because they are liberal-socialist-communist who hate corporations and the corporations of the tobacco industry are(partially through their own actions or more precisely inactions) an easy target.
Notice they are not exactly for the legalization of Marijuana or other drugs but instead they are for the decrimminalization of drugs. There is a big difference between the two.
If drugs were legalized and they were distributed by corporations like Philip Morris they would quickly change their toon, Well unless the corporation doing the distributing was Ben & Jerrys or Time Warner.
...must never smoke and never say "In God We Trust"
The New Democrats have set themselves up as the American hizbah : the morality police used by the Taliban.
Yeah, but all those Somalis on welfare are happy as clams.
Maybe it won't in the end, but then...how many times was Al D'Amato elected?
Oh yes! One of my very favorite places to eat were forced into going smoke free in 1999. We didn't go back, because we felt why should we spend our money at places that do not accomodate us....
They almost closed their doors when a year later, the owner invested in a very expensive liquor license. They were able to open up the smoking section again.
It has since changed owners, all new renovation with a beautiful glass enclosed non-smoking room, and in the bar/restaurant area, huge smoke eaters are on the ceiling. You have to look to see if anyone is smoking, because the smoke eaters are wonderful.
The new owner said if they make him go smoke free, he will have to shut his doors. I believe that over 70% of his customers are smokers, because I hardly ever see anyone using the non-smoking room.
And if they make him go smoke free, will Augusta reimburse him for the 4 huge smoke eaters and for the money he spent to make a beautiful glass enclosed non-smoking room? I think not. There is no justice.
Great seeing you, too, Madame Dufarge. I have been out on the riding mower cutting the grass. It has been way too hot, but it cooled down enough now, that I can get out there and do my work. :)
Remember that 17 million that was found to be missing from the Maine budget..........did they ever find it? Someone said he thinks the old Guv King used it to buy his spify new motor home. LOL!
What with our economy, and all that money missing, sounds to me like there is some stinkers at work in Augusta. And they try to put a red mark on smokers to hide their OWN in inaccuracies.
Hey Great Dane! Good seeing you, too!
I just heard that the smoking ban was shot down in Denver. That's a great win for personal freedoms out there. I hope it spreads all over the US.
GUV DAVIS.......FIND A NEW JOB YET?
On one of the talk shows last week, one man said you could play football in the NY City bars now, they are that empty. Good old BloomingIdiot is screwing New York like so many of the lawmakers today.
Well, Florida is also known as Denture Heaven. All the old folks end up there. And I no longer support the AARP, because they, too, have turned on the smokers. They are probably working with the anti's in Florida to get that law passed. :(
Exactly. I believe that we have the underbelly in America, and the ones living down there are working hard to really slam it to the true Americans.
Have you noticed how everything we were brought up to believe is right, is now wrong? And what we were brought up to believe was wrong, is now right? Well, you can't teach an old dog new tricks and I still have my own beliefs that I grew up with.
Yea, that's another pimple on the azz of Maine. The newspeople sure shut up about putting them in print lately. I guess they were getting too many truths that they didn't like to hear. Ah..ain't life grand for those on welfare? A chicken on every plate and two brand new pick up trucks in the "door yard."
But it doesn't matter - after all, it was for "the children."
Yep, and like you I'm sick and tired of it. Let's never forget the lesson we learned in 2000 people: we ARE the majority, and a tiny portion of the population weilds a disproportionate amount of power over us. They constantly gray out all morality until no one knows what to believe in anymore....and then they pounce on the resulting weakness and indecision. At least we still have the internet (for now) with which we can exchange ideas and discover we aren't a small minority at all.
Gee, you mean the Somali threat of violence didn't being enough empathy from the evil, callous Americans??
You have to wonder if anyone in the Main legislature has considered what's going to happen to their wonderful population of welfare Somalis when there is no one left in Maine to pay taxes. Every bit of hizbah legislation passed which puts employers out of business bring this closer to fact...throughout the entire country.
Thank God for the internet! But the lawmakers are working their butts off trying to figure out how they can stop the sale of tobacco products over the net. Well, I say they better start knocking down the porn sites first. What's worse for the children....smoking or porn sites?
Also, the lawmakers want to stop the sale of tobacco products over the Net because we are "cheating" the state out of their high tax revenue. Well, I say they better start cracking down on all the online auction sites first. I buy a lot off of one very popular Auction site, and I never pay taxes. So........the lawmakers better give it up!
Even though AL GORE invented it. LOL
Gee, do you think they would be willing to put those chickens on those plates if all the constituents moved out? hehe!
This type of "step-by-step" banning is becoming "the weapon of choice" of the ninny-nannys out there. A similar smoking ban has just made it through Florida's zoo of a legislature (mostly on the influence of retired folk from up North), seat-belt laws which were never supposed to be a primary-stop offense are now enforced by roadblocks, of all things, and the issue of firearms rights should serve as an object lesson for the entire country. SUV's? Take a look at all those wonderful modern, late-model musclecars with huge engines Detroit puts out...oh, wait...
We should regard with EXTREME SUSPICION all proposed legislation which:
1. Claims to be "good for us";
2. Uses, in any way, "The Children" as its hook;
3. Promises, From The Bottom Of Its Heart, to NEVER ask for more.
We SHOULD all have had ENOUGH lessons in this.
And they still have the nerve to say business is better than ever........ LIARS.