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Shreveport Counselor Sees More Sex, Pornography Addicts
Shreveport, LA, Times ^ | 06-29-03 | Haag, Diane

Posted on 06/29/2003 12:09:32 PM PDT by Theodore R.

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:00:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A few quick keystrokes and pornography is easily available to anyone who wants it.

Too easily, if you ask Marty Miller, a counselor who treats those with pornography and sexual addictions. Recently, he has had increasing numbers of people asking him for help, leading him to begin support groups for men.


(Excerpt) Read more at shreveporttimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: addiction; counselor; internet; la; martymiller; pronography; sex; shreveport
Dr. Laura Schlesinger said several years ago that the pornography on the Internet overshadowed and cancelled out the good that the medium would otherwise have provided.
1 posted on 06/29/2003 12:09:32 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Dr. Laura Schlesinger said several years ago ...

If you want to know more about her, I believe there are still nude pictures of her available on the internet.

2 posted on 06/29/2003 12:15:47 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
you bad bad person you
3 posted on 06/29/2003 12:20:29 PM PDT by corkoman (did someone say cheese?)
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To: templar
The silly FR libertarians will post how this isn't a problem we should care about, but they're wrong again. Pornography devastates families. I've seen it, and they will too one day.
4 posted on 06/29/2003 12:21:06 PM PDT by 7 x 77
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To: 7 x 77
Testify!
5 posted on 06/29/2003 12:22:40 PM PDT by general_re ("Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Theodore R.
Dr. Laura is right. I remember when my ex husband got us our first VCR...
6 posted on 06/29/2003 12:25:09 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Theodore R.
He has seen men spend $200 a day on Internet sites.

With the thousands of *free* porno sites out there, this kind of spending is mind-boggling!

7 posted on 06/29/2003 12:31:06 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: templar
Yes, I knew about the nude pictures of Dr. Laura on the Internet, and I have not seen them. I think that episode in her past has been put aside. Or perhaps she is like so many of us: we don't always practice what we preach!


8 posted on 06/29/2003 12:34:21 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: templar
If you want to know more about her, I believe there are still nude pictures of her available on the internet.

I see you conceded the point in the debate.

9 posted on 06/29/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Theodore R.
This is so true. I know guys who were so obsessed with internet porn they almost lost their wives. It really is a serious issue.
10 posted on 06/29/2003 12:36:30 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God and country)
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To: 7 x 77
This might be a problem that concerned people should care about, but it certainly isn't a problem that the government or one dime of government money, should care about. Doctors like to say the problem is an "addiction" because they can seek to get paid by insurance for "treatment". The afflicted would be happy to say it's an addiction because having been caught a few times it's an apt excuse for their lack of moral willpower. Just a load of stuff.
11 posted on 06/29/2003 12:37:13 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: Theodore R.
I don't believe a word of that sex "addict" stuff. The whole thing is a way to rationalize bad behavior. The way things go today, it's a million times easier to "admit" that you're an addict. Instead of being called a pervert, people will immediately rush to you for support, have a good cry, and send you on a two-week vacation for "rehab". When you come back, it's bad form for people to talk bad about you since you are now a "former-addict" (one of the latest cannonized victim groups). The whole thing is an easy out for a bad behavior.
12 posted on 06/29/2003 12:40:36 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (No animals were harmed during the making of this post.)
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To: templar
Eww, I'm thinking that any pictures of Schlesinger naked might actually cure a problem with pornography.
13 posted on 06/29/2003 12:42:18 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: kcar
This might be a problem that concerned people should care about, but it certainly isn't a problem that the government or one dime of government money, should care about.

We're already spending trillions in governmental and non-governmental money trying to compensate for the breakup of American families which is caused in no small part by extra-marital sex, which has been encouraged by the destruction of community standards. And this cost is small compared to the cost of lost souls.

More libertarian nonsense.

14 posted on 06/29/2003 12:46:46 PM PDT by 7 x 77
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To: kcar
"[I]t certainly isn't a problem that the government or one dime of government money, should care about."

I'm not really seeing anything here that is about gov't spending, maybe I missed it.

Cripes, with all my many problems, at least I'm not a sex addict!

But, seriously, I have not doubt that for many people this is a serious problem. I thought this was a good article, thanks to the original poster.
15 posted on 06/29/2003 12:48:51 PM PDT by jocon307 (You think I exagerate? You don't know the half of it!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I don't believe a word of that sex "addict" stuff.

When you continually partake in a behavior that's destroying your life and the lives of your loved ones, and you know it, but you continue -- what do you call that? But even if it weren't an addiction it's doing great damage and should be controlled.

16 posted on 06/29/2003 12:49:49 PM PDT by 7 x 77
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I don't believe a word of that sex "addict" stuff.

When you continually partake in a behavior that's destroying your life and the lives of your loved ones, and you know it, but you continue -- what do you call that? But even if it weren't an addiction it's doing great damage and should be controlled.

17 posted on 06/29/2003 12:49:52 PM PDT by 7 x 77
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To: Theodore R.
Those photographs are from quite a while back. She had a boy-friend who wanted to snap some shots (just between the two of us, honest!). Her mistake was in trusting an ass.
18 posted on 06/29/2003 12:51:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Dimpublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet behind!")
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To: Theodore R.
Hey, if you want to get yourself into a high growth field, get into sex addiction counseling. It's only going to get worse in this country.
19 posted on 06/29/2003 12:55:40 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces )
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To: 7 x 77
The point is that by using medical terminology, "addiction" to describe a moral failing doesn't do anyone any good - not the "Addict" who doesn't confront the moral choice he's making, nor our fellow taxpayers, who get to pay for the "treatment". There's nothing nonsensical about liberty.
20 posted on 06/29/2003 1:11:21 PM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: 7 x 77
Jack Kennedy certainly was an "addict." if by this we mean a person who had no control.
21 posted on 06/29/2003 1:17:31 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Registered
Eww, I'm thinking that any pictures of Schlesinger naked might actually cure a problem with pornography.

Have you seen the Helen Thomas gallery?

22 posted on 06/29/2003 1:20:54 PM PDT by WKB (3!~)
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To: Theodore R.
Pornography and lack of morality are a serious problem, today. My ex had a problem w. sex/pornography addiction, which escalated (assuming he ever was as faithful as he said) into cheating and eventually leaving the kids and me for someone MUCH younger. I have no doubt that he continues to have pornography problems, but she is much more dumb and naive than I ever was, and it will probably be some time before she catches on. Pornography is not the root of the problem- he would have been a jerk even without it- it just made him an even bigger jerk than he would have been.
23 posted on 06/29/2003 1:22:37 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Theodore R.
Do you keep secrets about your sexual or romantic activities?

Yes, when friends ask inappropriate questions about my married sex life I refuse divulge any details.

Do your sexual activities include the risk, threat or reality of disease, pregnancy, coercion, or violence?

Yes sex with my wife carries the unfortunate risk of pregnancy.

Uh oh I'm a sex addict.

24 posted on 06/29/2003 1:36:22 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: kcar
Moral willpower will only take you so far. As someone who beleives porn to be destructive and something to stay away from, I was able for many years to stay away from it by my own willpower. But it is such a pervasive thing in our society that you can't just "stay away from it," forever. It is so subtly seductive, especially for men, that you don't realize you're hooked until you can't go online without going to a chat room or sex site. After a while you lose any sense of wrongdoing and it pretty much becomes part of your life.

Ok, sermon over. See you in the Yahoo BDSM room.

Ciao
25 posted on 06/29/2003 2:08:41 PM PDT by sixgunjer
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To: bethelgrad
I know guys who were so obsessed with internet porn they almost lost their wives. It really is a serious issue.

I agree that the addiction to pornoghraphy is a serious issue in our time. However I can't agree that the government should have any say in the matter beyond legislation to keep it out of the hands of minors. I see sense in much of the legislation being brought forth i.e. requiring filters on computers in Public Libraries to limit their ability to access porn, yet I am still a firm believer in what a person does behind closed doors,(and don't get all indignent and make stupid statements about abusing kids and farm animals) is none of the governments bussiness.

If a guy is so addicted to porn that his wife leaves him then he's a sick foolish man and probably needs to be left. If however a man uses porn to feed his sick fantasies until he finally breaks and commits a horrific act then he is, was and always would have been, regardless or his use of porn, a sick dangerous man that needs to be locked up and get secluded from the rest of society.

26 posted on 06/29/2003 2:11:43 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: Registered
Eww, I'm thinking that any pictures of Schlesinger naked might actually cure a problem with pornography.

Actually, she's pretty hot if you like 60's chicks.

27 posted on 06/29/2003 2:12:58 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: templar
^5 !!!
28 posted on 06/29/2003 2:15:45 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: HIDEK6
um, my mom was a 60's chick!
29 posted on 06/29/2003 2:24:20 PM PDT by Registered (77% of the mentally ill live in poverty, that leaves 23% doing quite well!)
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To: Registered
um, my mom was a 60's chick!

So I guess you wouldn't think Dr. Laura is that hot.

30 posted on 06/29/2003 2:26:47 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: DoughtyOne
"She had a boy-friend who wanted to snap some shots (just between the two of us, honest!). Her mistake was in trusting an ass. "

Wasn't the "boyfriend" a married man?
31 posted on 06/29/2003 4:39:30 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: Theodore R.
When it comes to sex, I hold my own...
32 posted on 06/29/2003 4:40:20 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: Theodore R.
Dr Laura is given to hyperbole.
33 posted on 06/29/2003 4:46:29 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Theodore R.
Ha What utter crap....
34 posted on 06/29/2003 4:49:32 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: 7 x 77
Pornography devastates families. I've seen it, and they will too one day.

What if you're banging the wife while watching porn together?

35 posted on 06/29/2003 4:50:19 PM PDT by DAnconia55 (Thumping the Moral Ayatollahs, daily.)
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To: Theodore R.
Yes, I knew about the nude pictures of Dr. Laura on the Internet, and I have not seen them.

You didn't miss much. Trust me.

36 posted on 06/29/2003 4:52:01 PM PDT by DAnconia55 (Thumping the Moral Ayatollahs, daily.)
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To: M. Peach
Wasn't the "boyfriend" a married man?

I am not certain, but if he was, she is deserving of criticism right along with anyone else who participated in such activity.

My point with Dr. Laura is this.  None of us is perfect.  If the fact that any of us has sinned disqualifies us from taking moral stands, then morals will have no advocates on the planet.

Where Dr. Laura's comments are within reason, they should be listened to and agreed with on merit.

Where extenuating circumstances exist, such as Laura not specificly posing for a porn concern, or perhaps not knowing a man is married, this should be taken into considertation.  On the other hand, standards do cut both ways.  If she did pose for a porn concern or did know the guy was married, she should have known better, and it is certainly fair to mention it.

37 posted on 06/29/2003 4:53:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: 7 x 77
And this cost is small compared to the cost of lost souls.

Just to let you know, you're not in the running for Pope. Although he is elected, it's not going to be you.

38 posted on 06/29/2003 4:54:02 PM PDT by DAnconia55 (Thumping the Moral Ayatollahs, daily.)
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To: Theodore R.
Interesting article. The 'Net is addictive, no doubt about it.

I'm not sure that the negative aspects (porn, etc.) outweigh the good (a more informed populace, for example, thanks to sites like FR).

But the computer does exert a powerful pull, and when we're sitting here typing, we are not spending time with our families, nor are we outside, walking in the woods or on the seashore, enjoying God's gift of creation.

jmho. please, no flames. :)
39 posted on 06/29/2003 4:54:41 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: conservative cat
My ex had a problem w. sex/pornography addiction, which escalated (assuming he ever was as faithful as he said) into cheating and eventually leaving the kids and me for someone MUCH younger

Yeah, I know what you mean. That never happened before the internet existed.

40 posted on 06/29/2003 4:55:28 PM PDT by DAnconia55 (Thumping the Moral Ayatollahs, daily.)
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To: templar
If you want to know more about her, I believe there are still nude pictures of her available on the internet.

I believe you just helped support her claim that pornography on the Internet overshadowed and cancelled out the good that the medium would otherwise have provided.

41 posted on 06/29/2003 4:57:11 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: The_Pickle
However I can't agree that the government should have any say in the matter beyond legislation to keep it out of the hands of minors. I see sense in much of the legislation being brought forth i.e. requiring filters on computers in Public Libraries to limit their ability to access porn, yet I am still a firm believer in what a person does behind closed doors,(and don't get all indignent and make stupid statements about abusing kids and farm animals) is none of the governments bussiness.

Totally agree.

Although, I'd push for the ending of Public Libraries too - but that's the capitalist in me :)

42 posted on 06/29/2003 4:57:40 PM PDT by DAnconia55 (Thumping the Moral Ayatollahs, daily.)
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To: DAnconia55
Yeah, I know what you mean. That never happened before the internet existed.

Further in my post, I also said this:

Pornography is not the root of the problem- he would have been a jerk even without it- it just made him an even bigger jerk than he would have been.

However, in the long run, I am way happier he went off with someone else. I love the internet, and I used to pay for my ex's Playboy subscription, but internet porn has a way of dragging people in. The leaving was just the final step. Whenever he would go on a porn binge, it was a very unhappy time in our house. Any "addiction" usually has very bad side effects that are almost worse than what they are doing- lying, defensiveness, covering up, etc.

43 posted on 06/29/2003 5:20:30 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: DoughtyOne
Don't get me wrong - I agree with much of what she says - and I admire her strength of conviction - not that I necessariy agree with everything she says - however - the way she often passes judgment so harshly and in such a condescending way - leaves her open to judgement of her own personal history.

Overall - I like listening to her sometimes - it's entertaining and provacative - but like the old saying goes - "judge not lest ye be judged" (or something like that.)
44 posted on 06/29/2003 5:25:04 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: M. Peach
I'm not trying to be argumentitive, but do you think Laura should just stay off the air then? I don't think so. She's probably aged and gained a better perspective. I still think that if what she is saying is right, then it's right for her to say it.

I understand your those who live in glass houses comment, but mose of us live in glass houses to a certain extent.

Look, if Monica Lewinsky came out and said, "What I did was terrible, I wish I hadn't and I would urge other women not to do the same thing, would be be wrong to say it?" I don't think so. In fact I'd encourage her to do so.
45 posted on 06/29/2003 7:46:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: DoughtyOne
You are correct - but I don't know if I've ever heard Dr. Laura apologize for her indiscretions - of course I may have missed it - but I have never even heard her mention it.

Like I said - I like Dr. Laura - I admire her stance against the gays - although it almost ruined her. She is the voice of moral righteousness. I just think she could be a little more tactful at times....

But hey - if my ideas were so great I would be nationally syndicated instead of her....
46 posted on 06/29/2003 9:12:02 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: M. Peach
I'll be honest, I don't listen to her, so it isn't really fair for me to discuss her tactics to the inth degree. I hope I've made some general comments that would apply, but not a real endorsement of her style. She could very well need to use more tact. There are a lot of talk show hosts who use that style though. I think they feel that if they let their guard down even once, folks won't think they know what they are talking about. Personally I'd rather have a person be frank with me, admitting error at times and letting the chips fall where they will. I respect that.
47 posted on 06/30/2003 1:03:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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