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100,000 set for Hong Kong rally (Protest Against Beijing Control of HK)
Asia CNN ^ | 7.1.03

Posted on 06/30/2003 9:28:08 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A huge poster adourns the Lan Kwai Fong nightclub district on Monday night.

The proposed law, known as Article 23, has sparked concern in Hong Kong.

Under the proposed legislation, anyone found guilty of acts of treason, sedition, secession or subversion against mainland China could be jailed for life. Treason: instigation of foreign invasion, assisting a public enemy at war with the People's Republic of China (PRC), or joining foreign armed forces at war with the PRC.


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KEYWORDS: article23; china; chinastuff; hk

1 posted on 06/30/2003 9:28:08 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: *China stuff; HighRoadToChina; maui_hawaii; Slyfox; Free the USA; rightwing2; borghead; ChaseR; ...
 
 

2 posted on 06/30/2003 9:30:03 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Anyone who thought the PRC would allow Hong Kong to keep any sense of freedom for a prolonged period of time was seriously deluded. I'm not sure why Hong Kong was turned over to the PRC, but it was a reprehensible act, even if required by treaties.
3 posted on 06/30/2003 11:33:59 PM PDT by exDemMom (W in '04)
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To: Enemy Of The State
Will this be Tiananmen Square part II?
4 posted on 07/01/2003 3:51:15 AM PDT by antienvironmentalist
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To: exDemMom; Enemy Of The State; FreepForever
<< Anyone who thought the PRC would allow Hong Kong to keep any sense of freedom for a prolonged period of time was seriously deluded. I'm not sure why Hong Kong was turned over to the PRC ... it was a reprehensible act .... >>

The only time in Human History a FRee People and all of their Wealth and Property were voluntarily surrendered into medieval slavery, it was the lowest act of craven political cowardice of the twentieth century!

A not bad record in a century noted for its acts, a great number of them perpetrated by the national and political ancestors of those responsible for the Hong Kong obscenity, of craven political cowardice.
5 posted on 07/01/2003 4:22:14 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brian Allen
Bump!
6 posted on 07/01/2003 4:46:19 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: Brian Allen
<< Anyone who thought the PRC would allow Hong Kong to keep any sense of freedom for a prolonged period of time was seriously deluded. I'm not sure why Hong Kong was turned over to the PRC ... it was a reprehensible act .... >> <<>> I don’t think the Brits could have prevented or won an armed conflict over Hong Kong if they had resisted China’s demand for the turnover. I think they incorrectly believed that China would let them keep the New Territories after 1997 and never built a defendable border. There was never a large contingent of British forces in Hong Kong so a large build-up of forces would have prompted a response from China. The public of Hong Kong had long been completely disarmed of firearms, so local resistance would not have been possible. The British were taken by surprise so they had not let Hong Kong become self-governing before China demanded the whole territory back. The Brits tried to make Hong Kong more self governing before they turned it over to China but since this was not part of the agreement the Brits made with China on the turnover, China returned it to the way it was before. The west continues to underestimate China’s resolve to take back all the territories she considers hers. Taiwan is next and we still refuse to allow them to arm themselves. China is buying and building a navy to take Taiwan by force if they have to.
7 posted on 07/01/2003 8:55:43 AM PDT by TheKost
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To: TheKost
WELL STATED.

SADLY TRUE.

HAVEN'T HEARD NEWS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN HK--ANY NEWS???
8 posted on 07/01/2003 9:10:42 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: antienvironmentalist
No for the July 1 march. But it could be a mini-Tiananmen on July 9 when we plan to hold the Legistrative Council under siege by surrounding it with 60,000+ protesters in a sit-down protest aiming to block the legislators from entering to pass the bill.

I am preparing to shed blood. We cannot leave the job half-done. Half a million walk on July 1 but the government back off and the bill still got passed on July 9. We have created enough momentum and no way we can let that happen. I will no forgive myself.
9 posted on 07/01/2003 9:28:48 AM PDT by FreepForever (China is the hub of all evil)
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To: *China stuff; Enemy Of The State; HighRoadToChina; maui_hawaii; Slyfox; Free the USA; rightwing2; ..
Dear All

Just back from the march, still in one piece. Got sunburn and sore leg. Sleepy and tired. Past midnight in HK now. Will follow up with my personal report with some photos tomorrow.

CORRECTION: protesters turnout is HALF-A-MILLION-PLUS, no less. I stand by what I saw.

Back to you later.
10 posted on 07/01/2003 9:34:46 AM PDT by FreepForever (China is the hub of all evil)
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To: FreepForever
I can't wait to hear about it. What were we thinking, continuing to agree to turn HK over to the mainland after 99 years?

http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~hksa/publications/history_of_hk.html
11 posted on 07/01/2003 9:52:48 AM PDT by risk (Where liberty dwells, there is my country. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FreepForever
I pray you will be successful in stopping this. It breaks my heart to see China destroy my old home. Hong Kong has been living proof that a free market and society works.
12 posted on 07/01/2003 11:29:37 AM PDT by TheKost
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To: Enemy Of The State; All; FreepForever; JohnHuang2; SJackson; yonif; Travis McGee; Khashayar; ...
My father, a WWII veteran, had some words of encouragement for you today. I must paraphrase them and add my own comments about the State Department. In short, we must continue to support people who recognize the power of the American Revolution. Don't let them down!

So what are we doing as Americans to prevent the HK demonstrations from being yet another Tiananmen square? What about the student uprisings in Iran? How can we ignore their pleas for assistance?

Bloodshed for nothing is tragic. Where is our State Department if not burying its head in the sand? Have the perpetual bureaucrats in our government lost their will to spread the fire of freedom throughout the world? How can we sit by without helping to arm these people?

It is a tragedy in the making if Americans do not put a fraction of the energy they are in supporting this battle for freedom in HK. Without arms and tactics, the blood will flow and the Chinese fascists will have set yet another example of how to crush an uprising. The next generation of Chinese will be even more discouraged and cynical. The same is true for Iran. This is not a game. History is now! The time to act is now! Americans, wake up!

The time to rise up and demand across the board reforms in the State Department is past due. The world is ready for freedom. Where is our courage when these brave people are standing up to cattle prods, gattling guns and helicopters? Their tyrannical leaders are our enemies, who would kill us in our offices and homes by the millions. Do we lack faith in our own ideals, the ideals that these people are carrying into pitched demonstrations against heartless goons?

There is no time like today. Do we really believe what we've said to the world? Then send arms! Send advisors! Send commitment! Put the State Department on notice. Fire most of them because they lack the foresight and the faith in the freedoms of our founding fathers.

The American Revolution can live on, so why are we timid? The world has seen nothing yet!

For those of you finding your avenue to freedom, read our founding fathers. Study their words. Consider the passion of their ideals. Make them your own, and innovate to create a movement that can sweep from one end of your countries to the other. Here are some of the most powerful words you can share with each other. I can't say it better than this:

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! --Patrick Henry


13 posted on 07/01/2003 2:12:10 PM PDT by risk (Live free or die!)
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To: TheKost; Enemy Of The State; FreepForever; DoughtyOne; *China stuff; HighRoadToChina; ...
TheKost: Your #7:

Bullshit.

The predatory Peking-based pack of psychopathological, invading, conquering, colonizing, enslaving, brutalizing, serially-sexually-abusing, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, mandarin-wannabe gangster bastards that so grandiosely calls itself "china" is like all such cravenly-cowardly pack-hunting mobs a pushover.

Had once great Britain had the balls of even a Neville Chamberlain and enlisted world opinion in standing up to Peking's grotesque and gruesome gang Once-FRee British Hong Kong's once FRee British Hong Kong Citizens would be FRee today.

As FRee Republic of China's FRee Men -- who do have the balls -- will be forever FRee. [If the Peking pack's much-vaunted p l a dared set foot on even a square inch of the FRee Republic of China's sovereign territory its scrawny mass-murderer's arse would be kicked to Kunming!]

Snatcher Thatcher, her execrable "cabinet" and her girly-man EURO-peon commissioner and Arafat-appeasing pal, Chrissy "Hong Kong" Patten presided over the first voluntary surrender in all of Human History of FRee Men into pre-medieval slavery at the hands of mass-murdering gangster thugs.

And, as she joins her fellow feckless "conservative," Neville Chamberlain, in History's has-beens' trashcan, THAT will be Thatcher's lasting legacy. [Almost to the exclusion of her contribution to once great Britain's surrendered sovereignty, its headlong rush into EURO-peon Neo-Soviet satellite-statehood and its third-world immigrant invasion-driven return to the third world, all of which -- and Hong Kong's terminal stage enslavement and systemic looting -- proceed apace]
14 posted on 07/01/2003 8:21:28 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brian Allen
Re: #7

While I dont agree with all of his statement, it is not bullshit and he makes several valid points.

However, China did not demand the turn over, it was part of the 99 year agreement. The UK had simply painted themselves into a corner that they could not get out of.

However, they could have easily met the Chinese with force, especially with the support of the US>
15 posted on 07/01/2003 8:26:42 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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To: Enemy Of The State
<< China did not demand the turn over, it was part of the 99 year agreement. >>

1. The gang that calls itself "china" threw out the bluff and to a girlyman almost fell over in surprise when once great Britain did fall over.

Itself in its gutless rush to cave to Peking's bluff. [And tie up the dash]

2. Once-FRee-British Hong Kong was ceded to the British and was as much a part of britain as is the ground upon which stands Buckingham Palace. [That is, as much a part of once great britain as its third-world-savage colonizers and its EURO-peon Neo-Soviet masters will, for the moment, let it be]

The Peking gangsters expected to renew the lease to the New Territories on the usual terms.

On those, that is, most favorable to its offshore bank accounts.

Instead it has gotten -- and has alredy pretty much looted -- the whole kaboodle. Lock, stock, high-rise flat and barrell.

[Less freight both ways to the execrable Snatcher Thatcher Gang]
16 posted on 07/01/2003 10:11:16 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Enemy Of The State
I wonder how this will affect American owned Companies in HK?
17 posted on 07/04/2003 9:51:22 AM PDT by teletech (Have we dug up Saddam yet?)
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To: antienvironmentalist
Starting to wonder that too, anybody know if the PLA has gone to a higher OP tempo?
18 posted on 07/07/2003 10:16:00 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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