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Portrait of a Wahhabi: My encounters with Randall Royer…and the “usual suspects.”
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | Tuesday, July 1, 2003 | By Stephen Schwartz

Posted on 07/01/2003 12:07:31 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Portrait of a Wahhabi
By Stephen Schwartz
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 30, 2003


On Thursday, June 26, I testified before the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security, chaired by Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz).  My topic was “Wahhabism and Islam in the U.S.”  I outlined the outrageous degree to which Saudi-funded Wahhabi extremists, who are supporters of terrorism, have come to dominate Islam in the U.S.

My testimony was not greeted with enthusiasm by James Zogby, the phony civil rights leader who heads the “Arab American Institute." Zogby, a Lebanese Christian once known for his moderate camouflage on Israel, but now a shameless apologist for the Saudis, immediately fired off a press release. He described me and my fellow witness, Alex Alexiev of the Center for Security Policy, with mangled syntax, as "virulent anti-American Arab and Muslim critics whose writings and statements display a consistently misinformed and hurtful tone. Schwartz denigrates American Muslims by describing Wahhabism as an ‘extremist, puritanical and violent movement,’ ” he alleged.  In reality, it is Zogby who may be described with perfect accuracy as a “virulent anti-American Arab.”  He demanded that his supporters send e-mails to Sens. Kyl and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif), protesting against the very fact that the hearing was held.

While this was taking place, federal agents were poised to arrest six Muslim men in the Washington area and in Pennsylvania.  Two of their codefendants were already in custody.  Three of them have fled to Saudi Arabia.  They total 11, and are charged with conspiring with a Wahhabi group based in Pakistan – Lashkar-i-Taiba or “Army of the Righteous” – to commit terrorism in Kashmir, Chechnya, and elsewhere.

The lead indictee, arrested early Friday, is a man named Randall Royer, who calls himself by the Islamic name “Ismail.”   He’s someone I know pretty well.  But I know some of his playmates even better.

Royer used to operate a “blog,” which remains accessible on the net: ismailroyer.blogspot.com.  Go to the page and look in the right column and you will find me described as “Washington Bureau Chief, The Forward,” a position I have not held for almost two years.   This, of course, is his way of identifying me as Jewish.  And if you hit the link at my name, you go straight to the Nazi swill of Bill White, the compulsive liar from Silver Spring, Md., writing in the depraved Pravda, organ of the red-brown Communazi alliance.

I first heard of Royer in January 2002, when I was working at the Voice of America.  He had called my successor at the Forward, and, identifying himself as Randall, not Ismail, asked if he could talk to me about religion in Bosnia.  The Forward reporter passed the message on, and being the kind of free-speaking person I am, I responded.  But as soon as I e-mailed Randall Royer, what did I get back?  From an e-mail address in Bosnia, he falsely identified himself as writing for beliefnet, a religious news website.  He sent me a defamatory quote from the notorious Saddamizer and admirer of Axis seditionists, Dennis “Justin” Raimondo, proprietor of the antiwar.com website.   Royer added a false description of the Forward as “far-right,” and also referred incorrectly to my “former colleagues at the ADL,” i.e. the Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish civil rights organization.

So Royer had obviously done “opposition research” on me.  However, the Forward, when I was its Washington bureau chief, happened to be the most left-wing and pro-Arab of all American Jewish publications, and I never worked for the ADL, except as a volunteer prison lecturer on Black-Jewish relations, and as an unpaid rapporteur on the situation of Croatian and Bosnian Jews.

In his next e-mail, “Randall” came out as “Ismail” and, now fraudulently labeling the Forward as “neo-con,” and charged that my own acceptance of Islam reflected “infiltration” and “an attempt by pro-Israel groups to install a more compliant, Israel-friendly alternative Muslim leadership” in the U.S.   His comments were framed in a smarmy, polite tone, but a threat was obvious.

The role of Raimondo in this maneuver remains extremely interesting.  Raimondo has inexhaustibly assailed me because, like Royer, I have taken an Islamic name, although unlike Royer, I have never used it for deceptive purposes.  Royer employed Raimondo’s propaganda as a fig-leaf to cover his own attempt at intimidation.   On his blog, Royer dropped the mask and directly attacked me, linking to the degenerate Nazi White.  The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and others have similarly recycled Raimondo, and some have reforwarded Bill White’s Pravda depravities. 

But Royer was not satisfied to send me a nasty quote from a scurrilous nitwit, decorated with feeble gossip.  Later, he resumed his e-mail harassment of me and my organization, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.  One of his polemics  was republished on Raimondo’s site, antiwar.com.

Royer became even crazier, attacking, in his blog, another close friend and colleague of mine, Michael Sells – pilloried by Islamophobes not long ago for his book Approaching the Qur’an, which set off a ridiculous controversy at the University of North Carolina.   In a full access of violent demagogy, he accused Michael, one of the most sensitive commentators on comparative religion alive today, of  “bigotry-fueled hysteria” because, like me, Michael has denounced Saudi-Wahhabi vandalism, under the pretext of reconstruction, of Ottoman-era mosques in Bosnia-Hercegovina and Kosovo.  Naturally, I was not excluded from that blast – Royer called me a “racist” for the same putative offense.

But Royer revealed his own grotesque racism in the same blog entry, when he declared that no Bosnian Muslim woman had ever married a non-Muslim man.  His argument, regarding a country famous for intermarriage?  Such a woman could not be considered a Muslim.  He also claimed, of “the ‘wahhabi’ sect,” that its “existence is a figment of the imagination of extreme Sufis, Westerners, and others who feel threatened by authentic Islam.”

There is more to be said about Royer, but not all of it may be disclosed at present.  For example, he should be asked about his relationship with John Walker Lindh, the “American Taliban,” with whom he shared the trajectory of involvement with Yemen, Pakistan, and Kashmir.  But that is another matter entirely, at least at this point.

The most important things to be pondered about Royer come from the federal indictment, in U.S. vs. Royer, et al. 

Royer and his 10 codefendants are alleged to have:

* Supported Lashkar-i-Taiba by actions to “provide for, prepare a means for, and take part in” terrorist adventures in Kashmir, as well as in Chechnya, the Philippines, and elsewhere.

* Carried out acts “[w]ithin the United States, to unlawfully, knowingly, and intentionally enlist and engage with intent to serve in armed hostility against the United States.”

* Used false passports, as well as pursuing activities to “transport and receive firearms and ammunition in interstate commerce with reason to believe that such firearms and ammunition would be used to commit a felony.”

These charges are contained in 41 counts and 71 evidentiary items of information, comprising extensive arms acquisition, military training, and recruitment operations, continuing through travel to and violent acts and training in Kashmir, and including clandestine propaganda for terrorism in Kashmir and terrorist training in Bosnia-Hercegovina, among other illegal activities.

Among the evidentiary items:

“50. On or about September 11, 2001, Unindicted Conspirator #1 told YONG KI KWON to gather those who possessed firearms for a meeting.

“51. On or about September 15, 2001, at a meeting at the house of YONG KI KWON in Fairfax, Virginia, Unindicted Conspirator #1 told RANDALL TODD ROYER, KHWAJA MAHMOOD HASAN, MASOUD AHMAD KHAN, MOHAMMED AATIQUE, HAMMAD ABDUR-RAHEEM, and CALIPH BASHA IBN ABDUR-RAHEEM that the time had come for them to go abroad to join the mujahideen engaged in violent jihad in Kashmir, Chechnya, Afghanistan, or Indonesia…

“53. On or about September 15, 2001, at a meeting at the house of YONG KI KWON in Fairfax, Virginia, Unindicted Conspirator #1 told the conspirators that American troops were legitimate targets of the jihad in which the conspirators had a duty to engage…

“95. On or about October 15, 2001, during the meeting, Unindicted Conspirator #1 provided historical examples from Islamic history justifying attacks on civilians.

“96. On or about October 15, 2001, during the meeting, Unindicted Conspirator #1 told his listeners that fighting Americans in Afghanistan was a valid jihad for Muslims.

“97. On or about October 15, 2001, during the meeting, Unindicted Conspirator #1 told his listeners that mujahideen killed while fighting Americans in Afghanistan would die as martyrs, or shaheed.”

An especially disgusting item appears as number 104: “On or about February 1, 2003, in a message celebrating the crash of the Space Shuttle Columbia, Unindicted Conspirator #1 advised his followers that the United States was the greatest enemy of Muslims.”

This tidbit is fascinating because in 2002, Royer was employed as Communications Director of the Muslim American Society (MAS), a major component of the “Wahhabi lobby” or Islamic political establishment in the U.S.   At the time of the shuttle disaster, Eric Erfan Vickers, then-executive director of the American Muslim Council (AMC), another element in the “Wahhabi lobby,” lost his job with AMC when an e-mail was exposed in which he wrote that the disaster may have been “a sign from God about America’s future.”   Royer and Vickers both hail from St. Louis, Missouri.

St. Louis is not the only city connected to the Royer conspiracy.  

In an interview with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, dated June 13, 2003, the untruthful Royer claimed to have fought in the Army of the Republic of Bosnia-Hercegovina.  Thus he polluted a cause I defend, and besmirched a city I love, Sarajevo.  I have asked my Bosnian journalistic colleagues to investigate whether there is any  reality to his claims.

Finally, the defendants’ attorney, Ashraf Nubani, also represents Ahmed Abu-Ali, in custody in Saudi Arabia on suspicion of involvement in the May 12th bombings in Riyadh.

In Randall Royer we see the naked face of Wahhabism in America: a vicious, fanatical, terrorism.  After his arrest, I and others pursued by him asked ourselves if we had not come close to being fatal victims of his extremism.   Was he merely harassing us, or preparing for something worse?

And there are more questions.  Royer recycles Bill White and Raimondo, as well as, via White and Raimondo, the scribblings of the unhinged ultraleftist Kevin Keating, a.k.a. Keith Sorel, who paraded in the streets of San Francisco with a placard reading “We Support Our Troops When They SHOOT Their Officers.”  Raimondo repeatedly recycles Sorel, even as he insists he never actually met him, an irrelevant detail in the age of the Internet.   Other individuals yet to be named recycle all four.  The Internet and “malicious Googling” have made them all believe they are something they will never be: serious commentators, even authors.  Above all, Raimondo glories in his role as an inciter of suspicion and contempt for myself and others. 

God forbid that Raimondo, who has fantasies of being imprisoned, should actually be charged as a participant in a broader effort at criminal sedition.  But a libel suit, encompassing all who have republished his nonsense, is not to be excluded. 

And if Royer and his friends had, say, bombed my office, or the campus where Michael Sells teaches?  If my young colleagues, or unknowing students, had been killed, or if I were slain?   How would the purveyors of poisonous libels react?  The twisted Bill White would, obviously, celebrate; so, clearly, would the deranged Kevin Keating.  They might even claim such bloodshed was reprisal for war deaths, in Iraq or Serbia, or elsewhere.  But would Dennis Raimondo, the bosses of CAIR, Zogby, and others who republish pro-Wahhabi slanders on the Internet, feel no twinge of conscience about the deaths of innocents that they themselves might, in some measure, have helped bring about? 

For my part, I admit such situations are frightening.  But I am not frightened.  I will continue my work.  Democracy will prevail over terrorism, and Islam will be liberated from Wahhabism.  Justice will be done, in the cases of Randall Royer and others.  As always, truth is on the march. 


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Tuesday, July 1, 2003

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1 posted on 07/01/2003 12:07:31 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Interesting piece.
2 posted on 07/01/2003 1:13:38 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: JohnHuang2
The Saudis are our good friends and partners in the war on terror
thats why we let them build as many of their mosques and islamic centers as they want
and also allow them to buy large tracs of U.S. land..
via their proxies
3 posted on 07/01/2003 6:48:27 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: JohnHuang2
Dennis “Justin” Raimondo "Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid."
Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)
4 posted on 07/01/2003 8:36:42 AM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: joesnuffy; Cindy; Lion's Cub; Grampa Dave
The cast of characters include those arrested by the Saudis; the cast is quite diverse since it also includes homegrown American types. The apparent leader of the "paintball cell" - or at least the instigator- is al-Timimi, the son of Iraqi immigrants to the US.

They are associated with Lashkar-e-Toiba, a group based in Pakistan and dedicated to taking Kashmir from India, among other things. This group is part of al Qaeda's network "against Jews and Crusaders" or whatever they call it. Al Qaeda has since 911 changed names again so it's hard to keep up...

* Prof. Hafiz Mohammad Saeed of the University of Engineering and Technology of Lahore - "Lashkar e Taiba: A Backgrounder," EXTRACTS FROM PAPER DATED 26-8-1998, TITLED " MARKAZ DAWA AL IRSHAD: TALIBANISATION OF NUCLEAR PAKISTAN

* Ali Al-Timimi, Fairfax, Va. Islamic lecturer, U.S. son of Iraqi immigrants - "The search warrants," StLToday.com , St. Louis Post Dispatch , 06/12/2003
Cleric at a northern Virginia Islamic center - "FBI arrests at least 7 with suspected terror ties ," CNN , Friday, June 27, 2003
Ali Al-Timimi, an Islamic scholar whose home was also searched - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

* Hammad Abdur-Raheem of northern Virginia - "FBI arrests at least 7 with suspected terror ties ," CNN , Friday, June 27, 2003 Posted: 10:18 AM EDT (1418 GMT)

* Ismail Royer [aka Randall Royer] of northern Virginia - "FBI arrests at least 7 with suspected terror ties ," CNN , Friday, June 27, 2003 Posted: 10:18 AM EDT (1418 GMT)
Traveled to Bosnia after 9/11.2001
Royer, who said he met members of the group while fighting with the Bosnian Army in the mid-1990s, said he went to Pakistan and helped write press releases and set up a worldwide e-mail list for Lashakar-I-Taiba in 2000. He said he gave al-Hamdi and Kwon a contact number for Lashkar-I-Taiba leaders when they traveled to Pakistan. Al-Hamdi traveled there [to Pakistan] before the attacks on Sept. 11, Royer said; Kwon left shortly after the post-Sept. 11 dinner meeting with al-Timimi; Royer said Kwon told him he left Pakistan before the group was put on the terrorist list.- "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003
Traveled to Bosnia after 9/11.2001
* Royer, who said he met members of the group while fighting with the Bosnian Army in the mid-1990s, said he went to Pakistan and helped write press releases and set up a worldwide e-mail list for Lashakar-I-Taiba in 2000. He said he gave al-Hamdi and Kwon a contact number for Lashkar-I-Taiba leaders when they traveled to Pakistan. Al-Hamdi traveled there [to Pakistan] before the attacks on Sept. 11, Royer said; Kwon left shortly after the post-Sept. 11 dinner meeting with al-Timimi; Royer said Kwon told him he left Pakistan before the group was put on the terrorist list.- "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003
* Ismail Royer is also called Randall Royer; see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938532/posts (his web blog linked to white supremacist types)

* Al-Hamdi has also remained in prison after unsuccessfully claiming diplomatic immunity - with the Yemeni embassy's full support. He faces sentencing Aug. 1 on the weapons charge. Salim Ali, his lawyer, said Al-Hamdi hadn't realized it was illegal for aliens to have a weapon if they're in the country on a non-immigrant visa. - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

* Ahmed Abu-Ali : is being held in Saudi Arabia by officials probing the May 12 bombings in Riyadh that killed nine attackers and 25 other people. - "GLOBAL JIHAD : Americans charged in 'holy-war' plot : Accused of conspiring to train on U.S. soil for battle overseas," WorldNetDaily.com , June 27, 2003
Ahmed Abu-Ali : One suspect, identified as Ahmed Abu-Ali, also has been taken into custody in Saudi Arabia by officials there who are investigating the May 12 bombings in Riyadh in which nine attackers and 25 other people were killed, U.S. officials said. - "Pa. man arrested as suspected terrorist," The Philadelphia Enquirer, philly.com, Fri, Jun. 27, 2003

* Salim Ali : Is al-Hamdi's lawyer. "There is no terrorist ring, and once the investigation is complete, they'll realize that the individuals are innocent," said Salim Ali, the lawyer for Ibrahim al-Hamdi. - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

* Ibrahim al-Hamdi : Al-Hamdi, 25, is a son of the former second-in-command at the Yemeni embassy and a relative of the slain North Yemeni president of the same name. Al-Hamdi pleaded guilty of possessing a semiautomatic rifle, a weapon that would have been legal had he been a U.S. citizen. He is being held without bond. - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

* Masaud Khan : What the government described as a "grenade launcher" was found at the Maryland home of Masaud Khan, a U.S.-born, Pakistani-reared kitchen designer. Gordon Kromberg, the assistant U.S. attorney handling the case, said he believes that the item turned out to be a flare gun."I'm not suggesting there should be no concern, but if a guy had a grenade launcher, presumably we would have arrested the guy," Kromberg said. "It's very easy to jump to conclusions on facts like these. You know the guys are playing paintball, they're playing soldiers," said Kromberg, who said he has donned fatigues himself and played paintball. "On the other hand, if they're doing more than that, maybe there's a problem." - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003 * Danny Onerato : Masaud Kahn's lawyer, Danny Onerato, said Khan was "a law-abiding citizen. Mr. Khan hasn't been arrested, and we don't anticipate him being arrested." Onerato said he believes that, since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, judges are more willing to authorize search warrants when agents are seeking evidence related to terrorist activity. "You need probable cause, but there's a lax standard in these cases," Onerato said. "No one is going to want to be the judge who does not sign off on a search warrant (where there's potential terrorist activity)."- "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

And introducing a Gulf War Vet...

* Hammad Abdur-Raheem : But another suspect, Hammad Abdur-Raheem, predicts the inquiry may end differently. "They're probably going to arrest all of us and try to charge us (for) material support of terrorist group or conspiracy or sleeper cell," said Abdur-Raheem, 35, a Gulf War Army veteran and Washington [DC?] native who converted to Islam in 1994. "I'm trying to get my family ready for it. On the one hand, I can't blame (the prosecutors) - I saw September 11, too. But what I say to them is, `Go get the guys responsible for September 11, but don't get innocent people because of the actions of some idiots.'" Abdur-Raheem said most of the men regularly attended al-Timimi's lectures, which began informally at homes and then were held at the Center for Islamic Information and Education in Falls Church, Va. But after Sept. 11, he said, the board of the center parted ways with the scholar, who travels widely to give Islamic lectures, both in the United States and abroad.
In an e-mailed response, al-Timimi told the Post-Dispatch there was no "split" with the center's leaders and that they had continued to seek his advice. He said he stopped lecturing publicly in the United States after Sept. 11, "as emotionally charged environments are not hospitable for analysis or intellectual criticism."- "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003 * Caliph Basha Raheem, whose Virginia apartment was searched on May 8, said that subjects of paintball and team members' foreign travel came up repeatedly with FBI agents who questioned him before the search. "They told me that, `We know it was jihad training.' They think (the paintball) was training to go overseas and fight, basically, because some people went overseas after Sept. 11, and a couple of others are still overseas," said Raheem, 29, who said the paintball games, which fluctuated from five to 30 players until they abruptly stopped after Sept. 11, 2001, were different things to different people. "I can't speak for everybody else, but for me, I was just training to prepare myself if I have to defend myself and my family one day. I wasn't planning on going anywhere. I don't even have a passport." - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

5 posted on 07/09/2003 3:18:27 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Oops, forgot a spacer there:

* Caliph Basha Raheem, whose Virginia apartment was searched on May 8, said that subjects of paintball and team members' foreign travel came up repeatedly with FBI agents who questioned him before the search. "They told me that, `We know it was jihad training.' They think (the paintball) was training to go overseas and fight, basically, because some people went overseas after Sept. 11, and a couple of others are still overseas," said Raheem, 29, who said the paintball games, which fluctuated from five to 30 players until they abruptly stopped after Sept. 11, 2001, were different things to different people. "I can't speak for everybody else, but for me, I was just training to prepare myself if I have to defend myself and my family one day. I wasn't planning on going anywhere. I don't even have a passport." - "12 Washington-area Muslims investigated for alleged terrorist ties," By Karen Branch-Brioso, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Thu, Jun. 12, 2003

6 posted on 07/09/2003 3:21:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: JohnHuang2; RaceBannon; Howlin; Travis McGee
Royer recycles Bill White and Raimondo, as well as, via White and Raimondo, the scribblings of the unhinged ultraleftist Kevin Keating, a.k.a. Keith Sorel, who paraded in the streets of San Francisco with a placard reading “We Support Our Troops When They SHOOT Their Officers.” 

Ah. So THAT'S who came up with that infamous banner.

An especially disgusting item appears as number 104: “On or about February 1, 2003, in a message celebrating the crash of the Space Shuttle Columbia, Unindicted Conspirator #1 advised his followers that the United States was the greatest enemy of Muslims.”

Ah, more of that classic Wahabbi religion of peace joviality like what we saw on 911.

7 posted on 07/09/2003 3:37:54 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: TLBSHOW
You remember the lobby group MAS, don't you?
8 posted on 07/09/2003 3:48:01 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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re posts no. 5 & 6...


An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a WASHINGTON TIMES.com article by Jerry Seper and Matthew Cella: "EIGHT HELD IN REGION IN PROBE OF 'JIHAD'" (June 28, 2003) (Read More...)

9 posted on 07/09/2003 11:26:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: sheik yerbouty; Catspaw; JohnathanRGalt
ping for Overthrow / "the Nazi swill of Bill White," backer of the holocaust denier aka room-mate locater....
10 posted on 01/17/2004 7:12:59 PM PST by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: cyncooper; Peach

old times sake ping


11 posted on 03/09/2005 10:29:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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I don't think I ever saw this article, piasa. And reading it in view of the FBI's report yesterday that they don't think there are any sleeper cells in this country is quite illuminating. And discouraging.

Just reading the indictment against these guys reveals an intent to harm this country and I'd love to know the outcome of that indictment. And knowing there are sleeper cells out there but our FBI can't find them, after 3.5 years of looking, is really discouraging.


12 posted on 03/10/2005 4:42:19 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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