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Islam set direction of area man's life
Post-Dispatch ^ | June 28, 2003 | Karen Branch-Brioso

Posted on 07/03/2003 3:23:43 PM PDT by veronica

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:34:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - Randall Royer converted to Islam in St. Louis just after the 1992 Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, with racial tensions high nationwide. When the 19-year-old Caucasian kid from Manchester walked into a mosque on the St. Louis University campus, he felt those tensions subside.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: altimimi; conspirator; fallschurch; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; lashkaretoiba; paintballcell; randallroyer; royer; stlouis

1 posted on 07/03/2003 3:23:43 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Cachelot; SJackson; dennisw
FYI.
2 posted on 07/03/2003 3:24:33 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIP ......sign this!)
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To: veronica
And this illustrates one of the reasons why segregated Christian churches are not a good thing...
3 posted on 07/03/2003 3:28:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: veronica
Earlier article and thread...


An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a WASHINGTON TIMES.com article by Jerry Seper and Matthew Cella: "EIGHT HELD IN REGION IN PROBE OF 'JIHAD'" (June 28, 2003) (Read More...)

4 posted on 07/03/2003 3:28:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: veronica; swarthyguy; Sabertooth; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sounds like CAIR is pimping terrorists for foreign assignments.
5 posted on 07/03/2003 3:28:42 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Catspaw
FYI.
6 posted on 07/03/2003 3:30:34 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIP ......sign this!)
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To: veronica
"And I was like, 'This is amazing...

Oh, it was like and I was like and we were like and they were like...

WHY DO SO MANY ENGLISH RETARDS SAY "I was like..."???

7 posted on 07/03/2003 3:31:09 PM PDT by xrp
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To: veronica
And I was like, This is amazing. We're all talking. There are no barriers between us. Now we can stand together, like, as one, and kill or enslave every single human being who will not bow down to our iSLAMic demon, Allah. Like, really cool, man. You know, like, what I mean?"

Yeah, man. Really cool.

Human civilization had better wake up soon, and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages are about our Annihilation!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/939711/posts

8 posted on 07/03/2003 3:38:46 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: veronica
"It was me and this guy, who was white, and a guy who was black . . . and then an Arab and a Pakistani guy came, and we were all there talking," recalls Royer, who has since taken the name of Ismail Royer. "And I was like, 'This is amazing. We're all talking. There are no barriers between us.' It was really amazing to me how that could be. I just felt something."

What is really amazing is how clear the connection is between this man's conversion to radical Islam and his previous indoctrination with leftist dogma. "a.. white, a... black... an Arab and a Pakistani... all talking" = reason to kill Americans and Indians. In my experience having four people of different races in one room talking together and getting along is nothing particularly unusual - where do they grow these people?

By the way, I'm not sure if anyone else notices the irony, but Falls Church, VA is the home of the Board of Immigration Appeals. Coincidence?

9 posted on 07/03/2003 3:45:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Constitution is dead)
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To: veronica
Hey Randall/Ismail! You don't like everybody being segregated but join a religion that discriminates on the basis of religious belief. How two-faced can one person be! He had become the very thing he said he abhors.
10 posted on 07/03/2003 3:46:08 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: veronica
... and then an Arab and a Pakistani guy came, and we were all there talking," recalls Royer, who has since taken the name of Ismail Royer. "And I was like, 'This is amazing. We're all talking. There are no barriers between us.' It was really amazing to me how that could be. I just felt something."

This Cali moron-dudes narrowmindedness is a bit shocking.

I work with people of different nationalities/backgrounds, races, and religions on a regular basis - Hindus, Moslem, Jewish, Christian of different denominations, etc. - Russians, Indians, Germans, Americans, Asian, black, white, hispanic ...

The difference is, we all work in a company that makes useful products for people worldwide, whereas this young man is party to radical mosques and Kashmir terror groups for his kicks.

So which is a better expression of 'breaking down barriers'?

Like, you know, you can be in a multicultural organization without signing up to blow things up ... like, totally awesome, dude!

11 posted on 07/03/2003 3:54:53 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: veronica
This is amazing. We're all talking. There are no barriers between us.

Big deal. Last week I was getting a sandwhich at a Jewish owned Subway, served by a dude named Mohammad, in front of me on line was an indian wearing a turban.

Forget islam, everybody should sit the hell down and have a friggin' sandwhich.

12 posted on 07/03/2003 3:57:01 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: thoughtomator
"In my experience having four people of different races in one room talking together and getting along is nothing
particularly unusual - where do they grow these people?"

Yes, I just made the same point.

You are correct that this 'surprise' is likely an artifact of leftist indoctrination. Which in turn means leftist indoctrination is enabling the creation of terrorists and terror-enablers.
(I put this guy in the latter category - he's not a trigger-man, he is distributing the PR for the terror groups - he someone imagines that makes him innocent).
13 posted on 07/03/2003 3:58:14 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: veronica
According to Stephen Schwartz, Royer has worked in concert with Justin Raimondo of antiwar.com, a frequent and, IMHO, altogether fruitcake poster on Free Republic.
14 posted on 07/03/2003 4:04:47 PM PDT by beckett
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To: veronica
I like how this guy enjoys the freedoms which come with an American passport, but leaves and goes to fight with whomever when the mood strikes, or when, as he said, people stepped up discriminatory behavior toward his fellow Muslims.

He has the "guts" to care about his fellow Muslims, but not enough to move permanently to a Muslim country.

What a weenie.


15 posted on 07/03/2003 4:05:14 PM PDT by TheFilter
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To: veronica; thoughtomator
"It was me and this guy, who was white, and a guy who was black . . . and then an Arab and a Pakistani guy came, and we were all there talking," recalls Royer, who has since taken the name of Ismail Royer. "And I was like, 'This is amazing. We're all talking. There are no barriers between us.' It was really amazing to me how that could be.

Color-blind citizenship. There need be no barriers between us. The bond of citizenship is spiritual, not ethnic, it comes out of the common love of liberty, of the rule of law, and of the Constitution that is its structure. This kid was not taught this, and became apostate to experience something that was his for the taking.

he quit college for a semester to enlist with Bosnian forces warring with the Serbs... "I just kept seeing on the news about women in rape camps and pregnant women having their children carved out of their womb and it was really disturbing to me, and I saw that no one was really helping them anywhere in the world," he said.

In the end, it was the US Army that came to their rescue. Did he not notice that?

He rejected Christianity early in life after disputing with schoolteacher nuns the logic of the Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - all being the same God.

This is the root of the problem. Having rejected faith in God, he fell in with a cult that is engaged in the murder of Christians, Jews, Hindus, and quite frankly, other Muslims when Christians, Jews, and Hindus are not immediately available for slaughter. Having failed to grasp a basic tenet of Christian faith, he didn't opt for a more ideosyncratic interpretation, he didn't resign himself to a life of skepticism, he didn't seek spiritual fulfillment among Bhuddists or Bahai, he aligned himself with the one cult on this earth that can forever be guaranteed to kill those outside its fellowship, and what is more, has had American blood on its hands for at least 30 or 40 years.

16 posted on 07/03/2003 4:21:38 PM PDT by marron
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To: rageaholic
Forget islam, everybody should sit the hell down and have a friggin' sandwhich.

Well said.

17 posted on 07/03/2003 4:25:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: WOSG
Well said.
18 posted on 07/03/2003 4:55:05 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: veronica
Today, Royer and a similarly diverse group of 10 other Muslim men - most from his mosque in Falls Church, Va. - are now facing charges together that they conspired to fight with militant Islamic groups abroad.

Islam really seems to bring out the best in people. The 'diversity' is just a diversion to make it seem like there may be something to this death cult other than political and ideological domination.

19 posted on 07/03/2003 5:05:48 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: veronica
If Muslims don't like this country then they can get the hell out. I don't think many people would try to stop them from leaving.
20 posted on 07/03/2003 5:14:58 PM PDT by boycott
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To: thoughtomator
"a.. white, a... black... an Arab and a Pakistani..."

*******************************************

Sounds like the opening of a joke, doesn't it?

"A White man, a Black man, an Arab and a Pakistani walk into a bar and the White man says:.......................

Tia

21 posted on 07/03/2003 5:16:09 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
Sounds like the opening of a joke, doesn't it?

I thought they were in a convience store.

22 posted on 07/03/2003 6:19:54 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: veronica
In Islam, that bird is Muslim, because the bird follows God's laws and can do nothing but follow God's laws. And if you see how beautiful and peaceful that bird is, that's the kind of peace that human beings can achieve if they follow God's laws

Found the above analogy to be interesting. The bird may muslim but in this analogy he can never be christian because he has no personal relationship with God no matter how many laws he follows. I suppose the bird still has peace when it flys into another bird's nest and blows itself up...following god's laws.

23 posted on 07/03/2003 6:30:23 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: veronica
I just kept seeing on the news about women in rape camps and pregnant women having their children carved out of their womb and it was really disturbing to me, and I saw that no one was really helping them anywhere in the world," he said.

He must have been really dumb if he believed all that.

24 posted on 07/03/2003 11:12:46 PM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: veronica
This guy is a wheel at LibertyForum. "Down South" pointed it out on the forum, and for that Randal (who still has his old FR acct - how's the ol' charity work, Randy?) deleted his posts, and has also seemingly removed all but two of Royer's posts from LF. Of course, he may need a stronger cleaner than that ;).

Royer's profile:

http://www.libertyforum.org/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=Ismail&what=search&Forum=All_Forums&Words=ismail&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts

25 posted on 07/04/2003 2:36:33 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Shermy
CAIR is a terrorist front organization funded by Saudi islamic terrorists.
26 posted on 07/05/2003 11:09:14 PM PDT by Binyamin
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To: veronica
"When they pulled me over, I had a copy of the Quran, they were looking at that strange. I had my passport in a briefcase because I was preparing to leave for Bosnia. I had a gun for hunting I was going to sell," Royer said. "It was all very innocent, but the circumstances, all together, didn't look good."

Let's review the checklist:

- muslim --> yes.
- AK-47 --> yes.
- Quran --> yes.
- passport --> yes.
- terror mosque --> yes.
- AMC terror front --> yes.
- CAIR terror front --> yes.

27 posted on 07/05/2003 11:18:21 PM PDT by Binyamin
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To: veronica
"I said, 'Wow, that's a very beautiful bird.' And he said, 'In Islam, that bird is Muslim, because the bird follows God's laws and can do nothing but follow God's laws.

Does the same logic follow for dogs and pigs?

28 posted on 07/09/2003 3:57:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: rageaholic
Sandwiches are good, but pizza is a definite no. Even brothers and sisters can never agree on the toppings.
29 posted on 07/09/2003 4:04:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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