Skip to comments.In God we trust (Coulter:Conservatives by and large believe in God, Liberals believe they are Gods)
Posted on 07/04/2003 2:16:23 AM PDT by DPB101
Liberals despise hearing it! In fact they have worked hard to have the truth of it erased from public life. But it is true nonetheless.
After spending nearly a half hour of my radio show on the topic of Joseph McCarthy and the revolutionary claims set forth in her book, Ann Coulter bowled me over when I asked her the following question: "Ann, why do liberals hate conservatives in 2003 America?"
Her answer was a simple one, and then the clock ran out and she was gone. But that simple answer stirred the pot, and it echoed what this column had proclaimed merely weeks ago.
"Conservatives, by and large believe in God, and liberals believe they are gods," came the reply.
The basic gist of the idea is easy enough to understand. But let me clean up the edges for those of you who will yell about speaking in generalities. For truth to ever be understood generalities must be used. In the end, generalities must also be proven on some scale or a new generality will replace it.
My stunned silence at Ann's answer was reaffirmation of a conclusion I had come to a long time ago. By liberals, Ann and I are both referring to those who make up liberal ideology the radical activists within the Democratic Party. They have been on the wrong side of history at least American history primarily because they have been on the wrong side of God. What Ann is just coming to realize as a constitutional attorney, I have been realizing as a theologian for some time absolute truth is knowable, and expected to be understood and followed.
So does this argument mean that Republicans never make mistakes or are on the wrong side? No! And when they do, they are less conservative in making such judgments. I also believe that there are very many Joe and Susie farmroad Democrats in America that philosophically are more conservative than liberal.
What is perilously unfortunate is that many of these folks lend their political votes and will to radical ideologues such as the Clintons, out of ignorance or presuppositions that may be perceived but not verifiable. (Democrats care more about poor people, Democrats care more about race relations, Democrats are more fair or my favorite I've been a Democrat all my life and I will never be anything other than a Democrat. All of these make compelling reasons, do they not?)
But all of this being the case carries no meaning on whether the statement is any less true.
Liberal elites, Bill and Hillary Clinton, James Carville, Jesse Jackson, Terry McCaulliffe, Diane Feinstein and others are far more radical in their beliefs than they ever betray to the public although it is nearly unavoidable, because through policy they betray their thought process. They believe that the state (similarly to socialism) is the great giver. Conservatives believe that God is.
Liberal elites believe that morality is merely a matter of opinion. Conservatives believe God established this world and therefore morality is not up for debate but has narrow and specific limits to it.
Liberals believe that taking an innocent person's life is allowable in the process of gaining power. Conservatives believe that innocent life should be protected and that each loss of innocent life is tragic.
Liberals believe that a family is "whoever you would like to have sex with" being allowed to do so. Conservatives believe that a family is one man, one woman, a covenant before God and raising children in the safety of that healthy home.
Liberals believe that they hold divine wisdom in how the money that everybody else earns should be spent. Conservatives believe that the Creator has given them the stewardship of how they should control their priorities on how to spend the money they have earned.
In essence, liberals believe that they are gods and should be allowed to control your actions, beliefs, money and future. Conservatives, in essence, believe that God has granted us life and that in each life He has charged us with the task of being stewards of our own choices.
I have no doubt that I will receive more hate mail from this column than any other I have ever written. Frankly I don't care. It is not up to the demagogues to instruct me on how to think. Liberals' ultimate goal is to shut down all opposing voices that counter their power-hungry rhetoric. But the truth must be told nonetheless.
You may not buy into the idea that liberals have a hard time dealing with truth. You may be of the opinion that "just seeing things different" is a sophisticated enough explanation for how liberals go about life. I beg to differ.
Hugh Hewitt documented in his recent column, "Democrats Will Get You Killed" how James Carville had a hard time even seeing the truth when hard physical evidence was laid directly before his eyes. Hillary Clinton's book has recently been debunked, not just by Ann Coulter, but by men who knew her well, such as Dick Morris and Sydney Blumenthal. And the Rev. Jesse Jackson is continuing to betray his supposed Christian beliefs by pressuring his named replacement for Operation Push, James T. Meeks, to go against his own Christian beliefs and vote in favor of homosexual license.
Liberal elites have no moral anchor and, I guess by nature, have difficulty understanding what virtue looks like.
Conservatives must wake up. Conservatives must speak up. For if they do not, their apathy will cause them to lose the very freedoms that they love so much today. And in doing so, the phrase "In God We Trust" will be nothing more than an outdated mantra of time before the world can remember.
And that friend, will be the saddest day of all.
Thanks for the post.
wantlust for credit for making the state the great giver. And they want fear of (but not effective political opposition to) their making the state the great taker.
They lust for power.
"God," as used here, is the source of invariant laws that cannot be swept aside at whim or repealed by an act of some legislature. Such laws can only proceed from a fundamental, objective reality that inheres in all things. Catholics, among others, call it Natural Law and strive to conform to it.
If you believe in such a Law, then you must also accept that there are inescapable consequences for trying to violate it -- that your intentions, no matter how benign, are essentially irrelevant. It's an expression of humility, an admission that your powers and understanding are finite.
Therein lies the cleavage between conservatives and liberals. No liberal will admit that intentions don't matter in determining the effects from a specified cause. No liberal will admit that there are processes beyond his ability to curb by political means.
It's less a religious matter, strictly speaking, than a matter of self-exaltation.
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It is also true that Christian doctrine teaches that our sin is simultaneously crucial--implying seperation from God--and unimportant, because accounted for by the blood of Christ to those whose humility allows them to accept God's gift of it.
And that such humility is itself a gift of God, in the person of the Holy Spirit.
Not that I see. For reasons I cannot fathom however, many secular conservatives see those who are faithful as a threat. I don't understand that. They should be allies. The more people who look to a higher power than the state, the better off everyone is. Rather than encourage believers in their faith, secular conservatives seem to spend more time arguing with them, calling them superstitious or irrational and trying to draw them away from their faith.
Of course this goes the other way too...but Christians do have a duty to proselytize--doing so is an integral part of their faith. Secular conservatives may feel such an impluse but there is really no reason for it. Better off to let believers be and be glad they aren't looking to government to solve all their problems.
How simply put, LoL! Happy 4th to all...
The article does not imply anything of the kind. Ann's quote is, "Conservatives, by and large, believe in God."
No one said that it's a requirement.
When I get some time, I will post some excerpts. Every page is great but there is particulary excellent chapter on judicial activism in the last thirty yeas. Not only does he reference specific cases but he presents the genesis of the activism as well as the consequences.
I think that's a "major" quibble and I find myself in the same position. Although I consider myself a staunch conservative my logic and intellect will not permit me to believe in many of the dogmas of the various religions.
Belief in a divine being is one thing. Belief in religion is totally different...IMO.
"It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. Religion and virtue are the only foundations ... of republicanism and of all free governments."
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . ... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
What do you suggest?
Strong yes, but it is because it is true. I have been saying this for years. The reason they work so hard against Christians and Christian beliefs is that they are the only thing standing in the way of liberalism/socialism completely dominating our way of life in America. Think about it. As the Scriptures say, no one can serve two masters for he will love the one and hate the other. As long as there are people who worship the true God and take Him at His word and proclaim His word in a way as to influence others, the evil designs of the liberal ideology cannot be fully implemented, therefore Christians are a constant obstruction on the road to their socialist utopia. They believe that if they can at least drive the Christians underground and out of the public eye, while at the same time disseminating the notion among an increasingly unchurched population that the Bible teaches hate, they will have it licked.
Their lack of understanding is glaring. In fairness to those who are simply deceived, I do not believe for a minute that their own feeble little brains concocted such notions, but that the archetype was birthed in the pit of hell and is nurtured by Satan himself. Their leaders are often evil personified, such as the Clintons, and most of us wouldn't even be surprised to see horns pop right out of their heads at some point in the middle of one of their obfuscation speeches. Their followers though, are most often either adherents to some imaginary notion that their Robin Hood ideology will somehow make life better for the perpetually castigated underclass and that absolute equality breeds content. Still others are just mindless idiots who either cannot or will not think for themselves and will gladly follow the one with the greatest emotional appeal, which will almost always be the democrats. What they fail to understand is that such a system as they dream of, at the point of becoming self-sustaining, would cast off its enablers as surely as the womb expels the afterbirth following the delivery of a child. They would then become as much a part of the slave class as the rest of us, all working to support the new elites. At that point, any church, not state approved, would be forbidden because the truth of God's word would be an abiding threat even then.
Well, that was implicit in my post, but perhaps I should have clarified. And the reason being that "there is no other name under heaven by which men can be saved." I dare say that Satan knows the scriptures better than most Christians.
"You would think he would at least put on a more theatrical performance, to give at least the appearance that the problem is with ALL "churches," but he doesn't."
Yes, but as always he is blinded by his pride, which is why, despite his best designs, God, and by association, Christians, are always one step ahead of him. He gets cocky and blows it for himself. Perhaps the scripture, "pride goeth before a fall," doesn't only apply to humans.
Absolutely, at least in my case :-) I believe in a higher being but have never found any certain religion that felt like "the one".
I'm a broken-glass conservative entirely due to my strong convictions in a basic right vs. wrong, individual liberty, personal responsibility, an obligation to treat other humans well, and from reading philosophers of government such as John Locke and Plato...
Religion completely aside, Liberalism contradicts all my personal values.
The wire rimmed, dope smoking, bearded, elitist liberal professors on our college campi want for a god to cover their asses, legitimizing & justifying their every desire.
Two quotes explaining liberalism:
"The boy's been educated beyond his intellegence."
..............................................................Cartoon character Foghorn Leghorn
"God created man in his image...Hollywood Liberals are returning the favor."
Would a smart man desire Monica Lewinsky? Think about it...
You're right. No one said it, but it is a requirement if you want to know the secret handshake and get the decoder ring so you can come to the secret VWRC meetings. ;-)
"Thank you, Sir, may I have another?!"
Well, if you are a Christian, it makes sense. And the realization nearly drove poor Brent Bozell insane. Satan is in fact the head puppet master of liberal banality. In the traditional formula, the "darkening of the intellect and the weakening of the will" are entwined in the supernatural "mystery of iniquity." Powers and principalities in the language of St. Paul. And Lucifer can present himself in the guise of an "Angel of Light." The gradual process of wearing one down through falsehoods, lies, and sin is well-documented. A liberal is essentially spiritually retarded and the dupe of a master of deception.
LOL! Good description.
Bill Clinton is a classic example of a spiritual retard - enslaved to sin and error, almost bestial in the deformed manifestations of his outrages.
This image is a blow up of one hillary has on her own web site.
The ones who conservatives need to target are the centrist moderates who really don't know what to believe but just tend toward liberal because that seems fashionable or cool. What was the old joke..."A neo-conservative is an old liberal who was mugged..." or something like that. You will see liberals looking around for answers when their wife or husband walks out on them. Liberals stay liberal until they get burned by it. There are guys who are liberal until their daughter starts dating. Those people can be turned. They are just embarrassed to admit how wrong they were.
I have a friend ("Tom") whose wife aborted against his wishes. He's livid and tormented beyond belief. Those people don't want to be liberal any more.
Liberal policies ultimately result in a sort of cross between Mad Max, BladeRunner, and Soylent Green. No one wants to live in a B SciFi/Horror movie. Conservatives and Christians just need to keep pointing these things out and satirizing and lampooning liberal silliness and sophistry. We know Jesus wins in the end.
Conservatives need to keep pointing out how much the family has been eroded, that relativism and nihilism don't work, that the culture war is hurting everyone. There is a lot that can be done with organizing conservatives and Christians in better strategies and avoiding some of the silly extremist postures that the media love to point to as proof that all conservatives are white supremacist gun nuts. There is some need for slightly different political strategies. God knows the Republicans don't solve all the problems. We need someone a little more like Reagan but younger and with a charisma that extends beyond the typical conservative base. In fact, we need a lot of those guys. Every town, every Republican Club, every Church should be on the lookout for organizing the right leaders in more creative ways.
Keeping the message going that liberals are bizarre, weird, strange, deranged, extremist wacko types with a silly and hostile anti-Christian ideology at odds with normal American culture is a tactic which can wear them down and make the liberals act even goofier. Hillary always delivers with some screaming and shouting some bizarre zaniness. They will bury themselves if you give them enough dirt.
As a conservative realist, I suspect things in the culture will continue to decline and get worse before there is any big turnaround. But the social and cultural disasters that liberalism will surely bring will be more evidence of the errors of that ideology.
I am back down here helping with my dad. Are you having any more freeper get togethers?
We are getting together tomorrow afternoon to get something to eat and make plans for FReeping the Hillary booksignings here later this month. Wanna come?
Very well said. I've long noticed that only the words "Jesus" and "Christ" seem to upset people. Christmas becomes "holiday" or "winter break." George W. Bush says that Jesus is the philosopher who most influenced him, and people have a cow over it. He probably could have said "God" and people wouldn't have been nearly so upset. Even on shows like "Touched By An Angel," they say "God," but never, EVER "Jesus" or "Christ." That is the big taboo. And of course, nobody complains about mentions of Allah, Buddah, etc. We must be tolerant and inclusive, after all! Oh, sure, people can say "God bless you" or "God bless America," and it's tolerated and even makes people feel warm and fuzzy. But Jesus Christ is the name that is banned.
As annoying as this is, I also find it strangely comforting. It's so obvious that Satan is targeting Jesus, and only Jesus, that it proves beyond a doubt that Jesus must be the only way to the Father! Hopefully others will take notice of this, as well.
Exactly. One can be totally secular and derive meaning from that. "Other gods" doesn't have to be a Golden Calf. It can be work, booze, sex and, often, oneself. Conservatism is knowing limits, in giving attention and respect where due.