Britain: P.O.ed huntsman dismounts horse,punchs woman protester in the face

BBC News On-Line ^ | Monday, 7 July, 2003 | staff writer

[altura]

That Evening in Paris was potent stuff.

Cute story.

[Redcloak]

P.O.ed huntsman dismounts horse,punchs woman protester in the face

Silly hunstman; that's what the horse is for! Hooves do wonders for getting rid of vermin.

[BabsC]

If a group trespassed onto my property, they would find a punch in the face comforting.

I know what you mean. We closed off a dirt road that cut through our property with a cattle gate. After calling the law on the third attempt to take down our gate we were told we may just have to shoot at someone before they got the message. We did, they got the message, no problems since. It's amazing how easy it is to teach private property rights with the discharge of pump action shot gun. Word got out about how serious we were about the privacy of our property.

Spiked at least 3, four wheeler's tires before they finally got the message too.

[IYAS9YAS]

It's not the guns. It's the attitude of the hunter and action he took. If he can't control himself and refrain from physical violence against an unarmed person, maybe, just maybe, he doesn't need his precious firearm. Don't get me wrong, the protesters were tresspassing, but his assault charge is the greater wrong.

According to the article, he was videotaped beating her.

If she was tresspassing, why didn't he call the authorities? He could have detained her long enough.

[zip]

That Evening in Paris was potent stuff

That really brought back memories. My grandmother had a bottle (little blue one) on her dresser and it was OFF LIMITS to the grandkids because it was "perfume" not "toilet water". We always wondered if she ever wore it or just displayed it...

[IYAS9YAS]

No? He was in the middle of a hunt. What better way to lose your hunting priveledges completely than to lose your control and be videotaped beating an unarmed female protester? This was in Great-Britain, they're not exactly gun friendly, this didn't do anything to further his cause and has probably done considerable damage to the sport of hunting in the eyes of the ruling class.

[IYAS9YAS]

I agree that the tresspasser should have been dealt with, but it is not gentlemanly to jump off a horse and physically attack an unarmed female intruder.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to shoot tresspassers on sight. The law says otherwise in my state, however.

[OldCorps]

Good for you! Nothing like a good 12 gauge pump to make tresspassers think twice. Wish I had you for a neighbor.

[OldCorps]

This thread is just another example of the decline of English civilization. Apparently, the anti-traditional, tresspassing animal rights left wing commie wacos have clear authority to violate private property. I really feel sorry for all conservative Britons, they have been overwhelmed by the socialist masses.

Wish I was on the jury. Not guilty.

[Cicero]

The law in present-day England is stacked against property owners, hunters, or anything with an aristocratic aura about it. I'm afraid this guy is in trouble unless he finds a good soliciter who can get him off on a technicality. Is he recognizable in the video? Can it be proved that it was taken at that time and in that spot? Is his horse recognizable on the video? Can he argue that he was defending himself against what he thought was an assault with tear gas or the like?

Another solution would be to seek repeated delays, but usually these liberal protesters have a lot more free time on their hands than any normal citizen.

[xm177e2]

Hunting is already in jeopardy of being banned in Britain. This event may accelerate the process.

It's too late, you might as well beat the protesters while you still can.

[blackdog]

Four wheelers/ATV's/snowmobiles, proof that Darwin needs an accelerant in some cases. Before we bought our property, the previous owners had a neighbor who went snowmobileing and got barbed wired. The head was still attatched with a few tendons but that was it.

I removed most of the barbed wire and replaced it with high tensile electrified in seven strands. I installed Allen Bradley photoswitches at all entry points and gates, then connected them to an indicator panel in the house and barn.

[Seamus Mc Gillicuddy]

I'm not clear on the hunting laws in the U.K. . However, wouldn't that be considered impeding with a legal hunt by our standards? If some sour-pussed skank, bent on stopping me from putting meat my table, illegally crossed onto my property, she'd be eating the business end of my Mossberg, and ordered onto the ground, until my partner brought back the authorities. Then I'd sue the crap out of her. This stuff makes my blood boil!

[Wonder Warthog]

"No? He was in the middle of a hunt. What better way to lose your hunting priveledges completely than to lose your control and be videotaped beating an unarmed female protester?"

Many British fox hunts are weaponless (i.e. done for the horse ride, not the kill of the fox). Kind of like "catch and release" fishing.

The specific incident involved no firearms at any point. The possible presence of firearms SOMEWHERE on the hunt is irrelevant.

I'm just as big a supporter of the Second Amendment and RKBA as to be found on this forum, but THIS incident has zip to do with firearms---Animal rights, PETA, and anti-hunting, yes (which are equally bad), but not firearms rights.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I like those snazzy red coats !

[from occupied ga]

If some sour-pussed skank,

LOL

bent on stopping me from putting meat my table, illegally crossed onto my property..

I like your idea, but the government in Britain does not. This is fox hunting. No one eats the fox, and guns (other than a few heavily regulated and taxed shotguns)are totally illegal. Likewise defending your life, let alone your property is a much worse crime in GB than is robbery or assault. These are the "sensible restrictions" that the Democrats and liberal Republicans (like McCain) want to inflict on US!

I think that the protesters should assume some risk. After all if she and her fellow a$$holes who were disrupting the hunt have the strength of their beliefs, then they should cheerfully welcome getting the crap beat out of them to show just how committed to the "cause" they are. Somehow, I think that if they percieved any real risk, then most of them would go home.

[blackdog]

Most fox hunts are really "drags", a burlap sack filled with rags and fox urine dragged by a rider an hour in advance. It makes for a much better hunt because the rider can make best use of the lay of the land to provide a great hunt/course.

Of course we do not want to let the anti-fox hunters know there is no fox hunted in the first place, that would be just too funny now wouldn't it?

[Lost and Confused]

The huntsman has got to bring up he point of the video tape. I agree with these other posts that say he was set up. The people went to cause a situation, and when they got it, they videotaped it to use for their benefit. I don't know about laws in Great Britain, but playing the victim after being the instigator doesn't seem right here.

[CatoRenasci]

The hounds should be sicced on the protestors. Or lackeys should be sent to cane them.

[from occupied ga]

that say he was set up

Of course he was set up. My guess is that the tape was edited a bit to show what he did, but not what the hunt saboteurs did. Since the woman's husband was doing the taping does anyone in their right mind think that he'd tape his wife's criminal actions?* All the husband had to do was not tape while the saboteurs threw rocks, or whatever it was that they did and just tape the guy's response.

* Since madness is the rule of the day in Brit courts (ie Tony Martin) this guy is screwed.