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Warmer climate may threaten some crabs
AP ^ | 7/3/2003

Posted on 07/07/2003 7:29:52 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If the Earth's climate continues to warm up as predicted, some crab species along the Pacific coast may face extinction. A study shows that small crabs that live just off the beach in warmer waters have little tolerance for rising temperatures. Jonathon H. Stillman, a marine biologist at Stanford University, tested the heat tolerance of four species of crabs found in the shallow waters of the Pacific Ocean and reports his findings this week in the journal Science.


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TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: crabs; environment; globalwarming; kyotoprotocols; ocean

1 posted on 07/07/2003 7:29:52 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
STD alert?
2 posted on 07/07/2003 7:30:51 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: presidio9
If the Earth's climate continues to warm up as predicted

Winter of 2002-2003...COLDEST ON RECORD

3 posted on 07/07/2003 7:33:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: presidio9
A 95 degree temp and 95% humidity will easily turn me into a crab.
4 posted on 07/07/2003 7:35:57 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: presidio9
"If the Earth's climate continues to warm up as predicted,"

Big IF...I'd like to see environmentalists predict the weather a month in advance.

5 posted on 07/07/2003 7:36:54 AM PDT by goodnesswins (If you're not learning......you're not living.)
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To: Labyrinthos
I thought you had to use that pesticide shampoo. But now they say warm weather will kill crabs. Extinction would be a good thing would it not?
6 posted on 07/07/2003 7:40:58 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: Flurry
Extinction would be a good thing would it not?

Crabby Dick would think so.

7 posted on 07/07/2003 7:44:12 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: presidio9
This really is a bunch of crabp. First, they killed innocent crabs in the name of so-called science. Second, if the theory of evolution has any validity whatsoever, then these crabs ought to adapt to the change in tempreture, which should take place -- if it happens at all -- slowly over hundreds of years.
8 posted on 07/07/2003 7:48:42 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: presidio9
I know that really hot weather certainly makes ME crabby.
9 posted on 07/07/2003 7:50:15 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: presidio9
Warmer climate may threaten some crabs.

I've never heard leftists referred to as crabs before ... but it fits.

10 posted on 07/07/2003 8:31:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: goodnesswins
Its happened before. Where'd the crabs go in 986-1400 warming ?
11 posted on 07/07/2003 8:35:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: presidio9
the temperatures were raised in the individual aquariums by about a fifth of a degree a minute until the animals' heart beat stopped. This established the upper thermal tolerance limit for each of the species.

If you lock me in a room and raise the temperature 12 degrees an hour you will soon find my thermal tolerance limit, too.

12 posted on 07/07/2003 8:46:20 AM PDT by Flyer (Ask me about my Golden Retriever!)
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To: presidio9
So if i go to Florida, i can get rid of these itchy bastards?
13 posted on 07/07/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT by robjna
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To: presidio9
Jonathon H. Stillman, a marine biologist at Stanford University, tested the heat tolerance of four species of crabs found in the shallow waters of the Pacific Ocean

CaptRon tested the heat tolerance of some Hudson River crabs recently and found that once the water reaches 212 degrees they taste just fine.

14 posted on 07/07/2003 9:08:25 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon
I just returned from a vacation on the South Coast of Oregon. The crabs are excellent.

As long as you do not plan to keep them fresh in the spa.

15 posted on 07/07/2003 10:20:46 AM PDT by ElectricRook
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To: presidio9
We could use a decrease in crabbiness...

OH sorry. This is about the environment, not decorum. Nevermind.

16 posted on 07/07/2003 10:22:28 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: CaptRon
You eat bottom feeders out of the Hudson? Eeeeew!
17 posted on 07/07/2003 10:27:48 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
I threaten my crabs with a bottle of Kwell lotion.
18 posted on 07/07/2003 10:30:41 AM PDT by Bluntpoint (Not there! Yes, there!)
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To: Bluntpoint
Another way to deal with crabs is to shave half of the infested area, set fire to the unshaven area, then kill the crabs with an ice pick as they flee the fire.
19 posted on 07/07/2003 10:34:04 AM PDT by Bluntpoint (Not there! Yes, there!)
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To: CaptRon
CaptRon tested the heat tolerance of some Hudson River crabs recently and found that once the water reaches 212 degrees they taste just fine.

I have made that same test myself......
(Many times, in fact, just to make sure the data was correct)
I am compelled to concur with your findings.....
(Perhaps we should jointly publish the results of our efforts for the rest of the scientific community. What do you think?)

20 posted on 07/07/2003 10:40:50 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (~~~ http://www.ourgangnet.net ~~~~~)
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To: presidio9
OK, let's see if I got this experiment right. They warm up the aquarium 1/5th degree per minute until the crab dies, then extrapolate from that what will happen if there's a 4 to 6 degree rise in 100 years? 5 minutes to go up a degree in the lab is the same as (at best) 16 years to go up a degree? And the number of crab generations in 16 years is...? And the likelyhood that a percentage of the little baby crabs that didn't grow to adulthood under current conditions were crabs that didn't like it because it was too COLD!!!!!!??????

This is like "discovering" that cyclamates caused cancer based on force feeding lab rats the equivelant of 1000 cans of soda per hour. You overdo oxygen in that kind of ratio and you're going to cause some nasty reaction, probably cancer. This is designer science. Decide what result you want then jury rig your experiment to produce that result. I betcha they got more goverment funding after publishing this.

21 posted on 07/07/2003 10:44:51 AM PDT by Phsstpok
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping
22 posted on 07/07/2003 10:50:32 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: Fiddlstix
It'd be at least as accurate and edifying as some of the junk coming from the scientific community.
23 posted on 07/07/2003 10:58:40 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: presidio9
Sure 'nough. Ain't a thing wron with them either. The Hudson is much cleaner than most people think, and it has a small fishing industry.
24 posted on 07/07/2003 11:00:51 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon
Sure 'nough. Ain't a thing wron with them either. The Hudson is much cleaner than most people think, and it has a small fishing industry.

How far up are they trapped? I won't eat Stripers I catch 10 miles from the mouth.

25 posted on 07/07/2003 11:02:01 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: CaptRon
It'd be at least as accurate and edifying as some of the junk coming from the scientific community.

LOL! Probably more so......
(At the very least, it'd be easier to swallow. lol)

26 posted on 07/07/2003 11:02:07 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (~~~ http://www.ourgangnet.net ~~~~~)
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To: presidio9
Above the TZ bridge. I have friends who fish the Hudson regularly.
27 posted on 07/07/2003 11:04:02 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Fiddlstix
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH...
28 posted on 07/07/2003 11:04:34 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: presidio9
This experiment was scientifically flawed.
29 posted on 07/07/2003 11:06:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: presidio9
This is one crab who refuses to feel threatened.
30 posted on 07/07/2003 11:08:35 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: CaptRon
Above the TZ bridge. I have friends who fish the Hudson regularly.

OK, that's not so bad. I had a buddy fall off my boat into NYC harbor last summer. When we pulled him out, he smelled TERRIBLE. The lower Hudson may be cleaner but it's still plenty gross.

31 posted on 07/07/2003 11:11:36 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: CaptRon
No part of the Hudson could possibly be as bad as the Gowanus, and look what they have going on there:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/941642/posts
32 posted on 07/07/2003 11:16:48 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Are they edible ? If not, who cares?

Besides ... other species will fill their niche, like shellfish.

33 posted on 07/07/2003 11:24:22 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: presidio9
Why didn't he just get up and walk back to the boat?
34 posted on 07/07/2003 1:58:52 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon
I guess he was worried about stepping on something.

But seriously, did you know that they are looking into putting a beach down by Battery Park?
35 posted on 07/07/2003 2:09:58 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
No I didn't. I used to work at the Trade Center and would walk there or to the seaport at lunch. One time a buddy of mine picked me up at the seaport and I went home by boat!
36 posted on 07/07/2003 2:20:31 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon
I'm sure it will be very popular, as long as they offer free teatnus shots with admission.
37 posted on 07/07/2003 2:24:45 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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