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U.S. current account deficit last big bubble
National Post ^ | Monday, July 7, 2003 | Jacqueline Thorpe

Posted on 07/07/2003 6:59:35 PM PDT by Willie Green

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'In two to three years it could come to a dollar crisis'

When economists talk about the U.S. current account deficit, they like to quote Herb Stein.

Mr. Stein, a distinguished economist and former chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisers during the Nixon administration, said: "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."

The comment was made in regard to the current account deficit of the early 1980s. And he was right then. The same quote could have been applied to the tech bubble and the rally in the U.S. dollar. And it will undoubtedly hold true for the recent bond market blowout.

But what will bring down today's current account deficit, the last major bubble of the current cycle? More importantly, can it be brought down gently?

Economists are increasingly unsure.

"Experience tells us typically these things end in tears and I think the U.S. is not going to voluntarily embark on a plan to raise savings," said Jim O'Neill, head of global economic research at Goldman Sachs in London. "Therefore, it will only come when it is forced on the U.S. It is possible in the next two to three years it could come to a dollar crisis."

History is indeed littered with the burnt-out shells of countries that have suffered current account meltdowns. Think of Latin America in the 1980s and Asia in the late 1990s.

The process is all too familiar. A country starts to grow at a torrid pace, this spurs consumption and borrowing and an influx of investment from abroad. The currency soars. Pretty soon the country is borrowing beyond its means and a great chasm opens up between domestic savings and investment.

Investors, fickle as they are, suddenly lose faith, turn tail and the currency and economy implode.

The United States is not an emerging market, of course, but its adjustment in the 1980s was sharp nonetheless.

The deficit reached a peak of 3.5% but a few short years later it had vanished, thanks to a recession, a 40% depreciation in the greenback and the rise of Japan Inc., which became the new investment destination of choice.

Today, the U.S. current account deficit sits at 5% of GDP but economists expect it to go higher still. That's because the U.S. economy, as weak as it is, has better prospects for recovery than most other regions, most notably Japan and Europe.

There was a flurry of excitement in Japan last week as the stock market soared and bond yields shot higher amid tentative signs of recovery but the economy is hardly about to rise Phoenix-like yet.

Japanese investors may be tempted to dump some of their U.S. treasury holdings for Japanese bonds but they're more likely to switch to U.S. equities instead.

The debt burden to fund the widening U.S. deficit, meanwhile, will become increasingly onerous, notes Martin Barnes, editor of the Bank Credit Analyst in Montreal.

At the end of last year, U.S. net external debt was estimated at US$2.8-trillion, or 26% of GDP. In three years, it will reach US$5-trillion, or 40% of GDP, if the current account trend doesn't change.

"As the debt rises, so will the net outflow of interest, profits and dividend payments to foreigners," Mr. Barnes said. "This boosts the current account deficit even more, threatening to unleash a vicious cycle of spiralling deficits and debt."

Feeling a little déjà vu? The above quote could have come right out Canada's history books. In the early 1990s, when our foreign indebtedness soared above 40% of GDP, investors started to worry about the country going bankrupt.

One part of the U.S. current account equation has started to move in the right direction, however. The U.S. dollar has started to fall. But the drop has neither been deep enough nor is it falling against the right currencies.

Economists Avery Shenfeld and Benjamin Tal of CIBC World Markets note the greenback has depreciated about 16% against major industrialized currencies since early 2002, but these account for only 40% of the U.S. trade deficit. Against China, the Pacific Rim, Mexico and other developing countries, which account for the bulk of the trade deficit, the greenback has actually appreciated 4%.

That is why U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow has recently upped the pressure on China -- which holds the biggest trade imbalance with the United States -- to revalue its currency.

The yuan is currently pegged to the U.S. dollar so the descent in the greenback has been mirrored by a descent in the yuan, which hardly needs to be cheaper.

But persuading China to accept a stronger currency and the weaker growth that might come with it will require an awful lot of diplomatic wrangling.

In the meantime, the current account deficit will continue to grow, making the eventual adjustment even more traumatic.

The U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency makes comparing Canada in the 1990s with the United States now ludicrous, but eventually some country, somewhere, will become more attractive than a heavily indebted United States.

And investors tend to turn on a dime.

"The nightmare scenario would be if an interruption to capital flows caused a steep plunge in the dollar and U.S. equity market meltdown, pushing the economy into recession," Mr. Barnes said. "The current account deficit could shrink dramatically, but in the context of a disastrous economic and financial environment. This is not our base-case view, but it is within the realm of possibility."

Mr. O'Neill at Goldman Sachs thinks a short, sharp cleaning out of the U.S. economic system may not be so bad. The U.S. did, after all, recover from its 1980s recession.

"I would argue the inevitable is actually not that bad for the U.S.," he said. The dollar might slump but Americans would begin to save again, forming a stronger basis for an upswing that is currently in place.

"It seems to me slightly scary that the United States now lives on a model that it will never, never accept weaker economic growth, which is dangerous because that's life."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: demomouthpiece; globalism; morewilliegreenbs; thebusheconomy; williesarat
The truth about the deficit
Current account deficit hits record (Trade Deficit)
US net debtor gap grew to record $2.387 Trillion in '02

Foreign nations use the cash obtained from our Trade Defict to purchase U.S. Treasury bills issued to finance our budget deficit and National Debt.

For FY 2002, interest paid on the National Debt was $332 billion, or roughly 18% of federal revenue for that year.


Here are the facts:

Gross Domestic Product (GDP), the measure of the USA's output of goods and services, is calculated by the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis using the following items:

The BEA News Release for FIRST QUARTER 2003 provides us with the following current data for these items. (Seasonally adjusted at annual rates)

Gross domestic product (GDP)............................. $10,697.7 billion
Personal consumption expenditures.......................... 7,502.8 (70.13% of GDP)
Gross private domestic investment.......................... 1,626.9 (15.21% of GDP)
Net exports of goods and services........................... -485.7 (-4.54% of GDP)
Government consumption expenditures and gross investment... 2,053.6 (19.20% of GDP)

The current BALANCE OF TRADE is in deficit, which is considered unfavorable.
It is SUBTRACTED from the items that make up GDP.

And at historic highs, it diminishes our domestic economy by about 4½% - more than twice the normal variation. This is NOT insignificant.

1 posted on 07/07/2003 6:59:35 PM PDT by Willie Green
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2 posted on 07/07/2003 7:00:09 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Willie Green
Does anybody out there really understand how indebted this country is to the Chinese? Free trade, while great in theory, is being used by our adversaries to cause the economic destruction of this country.
3 posted on 07/07/2003 7:16:35 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
And do you, my good man, understand how much worse off China is?

Fact #1 The Chinese lie about their statistics. If Enron lied, China is lying now.

#2 Because of poorly-run communist enterprises, the country is effectively bankrupt, with no equity after all writedowns. They are one strong financial panic away from meltdown.

#3 I take back what I said in #2. Why? When things go wrong they shoot people. So, they could be around for a long time.

#4 As far as your comment about us being too indebted to them, I agree. We should try to be more independent from that country's low-wage labor, just in case something goes wrong.

4 posted on 07/07/2003 7:38:34 PM PDT by ReveBM
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To: Last Dakotan
Relax, they only hold about $120 billion in Treasury bonds.
5 posted on 07/07/2003 7:46:20 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: Willie Green
Keep voting Democrat and Republican and the problem will never be solved. Democrats and Republicans have proven over a 50 year history that they are incapable of controlling spending to save the nation. How pathetic.
6 posted on 07/07/2003 7:48:39 PM PDT by xrp
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To: Willie Green
"If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."

That should get a big "DUH"!

We are the biggest dog in the fight. The world is using our money. As long as we adhere to market principles, that will continue. Will we do it? I don't know.

7 posted on 07/07/2003 8:15:27 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: plusones
But if investors and oil producing countries start to switch to something else, the artificial demand for the dollar will evaporate.

You are certainly right and as long as we are using a fiat currency (don't misunderstand, I am not necessarily against that) that is a political and economic possibility. The secret is maintaining our freedom of economic activity without undue government hinderence.

There is also the possibility of a reduced dependance on oil. Check out the following: http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html Technology is an ever-shifting and uncertain factor.

9 posted on 07/07/2003 8:43:23 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Willie Green
The only force in this world that can cause the meltdown of the dollar and the resulting destablization of the world is the immature rise of China. We need to confront the woeful condition of human and property rights in China, and simultaneously slow the growth of an economic time bomb. The problem is the intellectual halfwits that think that the almighty buck will cause China to evolve from its communist roots, and the short term greed of business interests that will do or say anything to make a temporary profit with he current Chinese regime.
10 posted on 07/07/2003 8:51:00 PM PDT by reed_inthe_wind
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To: Willie Green; Last Dakotan; ReveBM; Filibuster_60; xrp; Mind-numbed Robot; plusones; ...
To quote my college Economics Professor on this article:

"Relax about the "trade deficit". Most newspaper articles do not know which end is up--this one included"
12 posted on 07/08/2003 9:36:23 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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To: Enemy Of The State
IMHO, you should sue your Economics Professor for fraud and get a refund of your tuition.
13 posted on 07/08/2003 9:41:44 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Last Dakotan
Free trade, while great in theory, is being used by our adversaries to cause the economic destruction of this country.

Free trade never the destruction of anyone. Controlled economies have destroyed every country they have ever been used in.

14 posted on 07/08/2003 9:49:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Willie Green
lol..

Well, I have to give him credit because he is a very intelligent man and I highly respect his opinion as a very conservative Econ Professor.

His views often fall in line with Milton Freidman, another man that I highly respect in economics.
15 posted on 07/08/2003 9:50:25 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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To: Willie Green; rohry; Wyatt's Torch; arete; meyer; DarkWaters; STONEWALLS; TigerLikesRooster; ...
Wasn't it in the 1970s that the IMF had to bail out Great Britian because of it's balance of payments problem?
16 posted on 07/08/2003 10:07:57 AM PDT by razorback-bert (White Devils for Al-Sharpton 2004... Texas Chapter)
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To: Enemy Of The State
His views often fall in line with Milton Freidman, another man that I highly respect in economics.

Doctor Friedman has certainly earned such respect.
In his prime, he made significant contributions of major impact in the the field of economics.
Unfortunately, at age 91, he no longer grasps the subtle complexities of current economic conditions. I'm glad to see that he still has his health and sufficient mental acuity to publish learned economic commentary on occasion. But the Ivory Tower perspective of these latter years has lost its focus and applicability to current conditions.

It would have been nice had he developed other interests that he could've pursued in retirement. But I guess you can't blame him for staying with his lifelong passion for economics. It's just a shame that this latter day work is not up to snuff with his reputation. Kinda like watching Mickey Mantle in the twilight of his career, barely able to hobble to first base after smacking the ball off the wall.

17 posted on 07/08/2003 10:29:06 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: xrp
Democrats and Republicans have proven over a 50 year history that they are incapable of controlling spending to save the nation.

Politicians of both parties have no interest in doing what is right for the country and the average citizen. Politicians are interested in staying in office and that means buying votes by making promises and lining the pockets of big contributors with taxpayer money. They will only stop when the whole scam implodes and the public is marching on Washington.

Richard W.

18 posted on 07/08/2003 10:44:54 AM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: Enemy Of The State
This reminds me of a joke an old econ professor told me once.

Ask 5 economic professors about an economic issue and you will get 5 different answers... six if one professor is from Harvard.

19 posted on 07/08/2003 2:48:53 PM PDT by VetoBill (Who is the actor that plays Dan Rather?)
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To: VetoBill
"Ask 5 economic professors about an economic issue and you will get 5 different answers... six if one professor is from Harvard."

LoL! Good one!
20 posted on 07/08/2003 5:09:38 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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