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HELP SAVE AMERICA! The Paul Revere Society 8-Point Program.
Paul Revere Society.com ^ | unknown | Michael Savage

Posted on 07/08/2003 7:38:40 AM PDT by harpu

The Paul Revere Society Needs You!

Michael Savage founded The Paul Revere Society (PRS). With a crisis of leadership threatening the United States, PRS stands for the reassertion of our borders, our language, and our culture.

Some say that the borders are arbitrary, English is only one of many languages in our new "Multicultural America," and that we share no common history or values. We believe in the Sovereignty of our Nation. That English is our national "glue." And that we all do share in the pillars of the Bible, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. These documents and what they stand for are our common cultural heritage.

The Paul Revere Society (PRS) will assert the values inherent in these pillars of freedom. We will seek to educate the citizenry about our nation's freedoms.

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The Paul Revere Society 8-Point Program

1. End Affirmative Action.
2. Close the Borders now.
3. Deport all illegal immigrants now.
4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states.
5. Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants.
6. Make tax cuts permanent.
7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.
8. Tort Reform - Stop Class Action Lawyers.

Michael Savage founded The Paul Revere Society (PRS). With a crisis of leadership threatening the United States, PRS stands for the reassertion of our borders, our language, and our culture.

Some say that the borders are arbitrary, English is only one of many languages in our new "Multicultural America," and that we share no common history or values.

We believe in the Sovereignty of our Nation. That English is our national "glue." And that we all do share in the pillars of the Bible, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. These documents and what they stand for are our common cultural heritage.

The Paul Revere Society (PRS) will assert the values inherent in these pillars of freedom. We will seek to educate the citizenry about our nation's freedoms.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: prs; savage
Who on this forum would like to express their disagreement with Savage's premise, for a forum discussion, that adopting any one (or all) of these eight principals wouldn't be in the best interest of returning our great country back to those us for which it was intended by our founding fathers.
1 posted on 07/08/2003 7:38:40 AM PDT by harpu
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 7:39:02 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: harpu
Who on this forum would like to express their disagreement with Savage's premise, for a forum discussion, that adopting any one (or all) of these eight principals wouldn't be in the best interest of returning our great country back to those us for which it was intended by our founding fathers.

Savage may be wrong in his tact, but he isn't wrong on these issues...

1. End Affirmative Action. - AA is racism, hiring because of skin color.

2. Close the Borders now. - What's wrong with that?

3. Deport all illegal immigrants now. - Again, Illegal is illegal, arrest and deport NOW!

4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states. - And in Germany they speak what? Italy? Holand? The united States is an English Speaking Country, Conform or be cast out!

5. Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants. - Why not, there are health test for those going abroad!

6. Make tax cuts permanent. - Hmmm, Why not elliminate the income tax? Other than that, tax cuts aren't a bad idea

7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees. - Get rid of big government and reduce spending, thus eliminating the need for Taxes, any thing wrong with that?

8. Tort Reform - Stop Class Action Lawyers. - Another idea to stop the burden on tax payers, what's wrong with this?

3 posted on 07/08/2003 7:54:25 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: harpu
I dont know, Michael Savage siunds Right On to me. I'm going to check it out. . .
4 posted on 07/08/2003 7:54:35 AM PDT by Roughneck (Starve the Beast!)
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To: harpu
The final statement is the key one: The Paul Revere Society (PRS) will assert the values inherent in these pillars of freedom. We will seek to educate the citizenry about our nation's freedoms.

Since Mr. Savage is the "Executive Director" of this "society", and since as far as I can tell the "society" consists of nothing more than a website that Mr. Savage can use to collect money --- then time will tell whether this is the start of something useful or simply a venue for him to enrich himself.

5 posted on 07/08/2003 7:56:01 AM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: harpu
To oppose these ideas puts you into a liberal point of view.

Are you saying that Savage is wrong on these 8 points?

6 posted on 07/08/2003 7:56:33 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
"Are you saying that Savage is wrong on these 8 points?"

If you have to ask...you must be a newbie!

7 posted on 07/08/2003 8:02:41 AM PDT by harpu
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To: harpu
Uh, no, not a newbie...A Conservative/Constitutionalist/Libertarian/republican...Oh, that makes me Jeffersonian!

You may not like Savage, but he is right on those points!

Expound on your reasoning please.

8 posted on 07/08/2003 8:08:57 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
A "Jeffersonian", perhaps - but you need to work on doing a better job of understanding what a FReeper posts in his or her own comments.

-30-

9 posted on 07/08/2003 8:17:00 AM PDT by harpu
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To: harpu
I can't see any problem with those 8 goals as they're stated here, but I'd like to see more details.

You've got one problem though: in order for one, or all, of these 8 points to become reality they have to get passed the Supreme Court, and that crowd has their own elitist standards. Remember, Consertvatives can't do an end run around the Legislature like the Left does.

Why not add a 9th item: "Pass a Constitutional Amendment to have Supreme Court Justices and lower court Justices directly elected by The People?"

The SCOTUS is the choke point for social reform. Make SCOTUS, and the lower courts, accountable to the political pressure of The People, and I think you'll find less activism on the bench.

If SCOTUS isn't changed then the PRS will just be another debating society.



10 posted on 07/08/2003 8:19:42 AM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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To: harpu
Well, I am one of the few that just scans and looks for key points. - I know a terrible habit...BTW, Nice ride!
11 posted on 07/08/2003 8:25:20 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: harpu
One if by land
Two if by sea
Three if they come
from Washington D.C.
12 posted on 07/08/2003 9:01:54 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Noachian
You've got a point about that! I can't disagree with Mr. Savage on all of these. But like you said; eventually they'll have to go through the SC; but they would have to go through Congress too, wouldn't they?

And there's a whole crew of people in there who would snarl these up as soon as they came to them! But a few of them I might disagree not with the concerns they present, but how to go about them.

People have to remember that even at the Constitutional Convention, even the many members from the different new states; couldn't even agree with what was put in the Constitution! They all shared many common concerns, but not how to go about them. They didn't even agree with each other on priorities! The darn thing almost didn't get finished because people came to blows on what they wanted to see in it, particularly about slavery!

So the "Founding Fathers" didn't march in lockstep on everything all the time; just like now. Things got pretty nasty at times during the convention. But, there was a fundamental difference. All parties, even if they disagreed on the finer points, even if they had different agendas; they managed to finally put those aside in order to get something together for the people. They wanted to present a united front. Because after all, it was like: "united we stand, divided we fall" finally prevailed!

But at times, there was a concern that some wanted to take it apart, and start over again! And Washington, Adams, Madison, and many others didn't want to go through all of that again!
13 posted on 07/08/2003 9:09:06 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: harpu
Michael Savage unfortunately played into the hands of the agenda groups and took the bait. However, I still like him because he is one of the few that stands up for the truth.
14 posted on 07/08/2003 10:24:28 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: dsutah
"...but they would have to go through Congress too, wouldn't they?"

No. Afraid not. Take point #1 Affirmative Action, the question of quotas based on pigmentation has already been decided by the SCOTUS in the Michigan U and other cases.

Congress, as a law making body, is quickly becoming irrelevant.

You're right about the fights leading up to the creation of the Constitution, but then that was a different time with different people. Today's people don't fight - they sue; they don't argue - they discuss; they don't man barricades - they e-mail their respective represenatives. Kind of makes you wonder how we got this far doesn't it?





15 posted on 07/08/2003 12:31:34 PM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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To: Noachian
You're not kidding! ;) Any way, what I was talking about mostly was the border closings and tax cuts. Those have to be run by Congress, don't they? However, you're right about some having to be done by the Supreme Court.

I was watching a very interesting show the other night. It was on channel 11,(I think). I thought it was called "We The People", but when I got home; my Mom looked it up in the t.v. guide, and it had a different title, as well as that one. I'll see if I can find it and tell you what it was.

It was a play-like show, that looked like it was done on location in various places in the old colony states. Mostly it was done in what looked like Philadelphia. It was a play based on the Constitutional Convention. Of course it had flash-backs to the Revolution days.

It would show the characters in their private moments as they were writing, working, visiting and discussing things pertaining to the debates on the Constitution. This movie was done with the cooperation of Brigham Young University, I believe. It may have been done with their studios, partly.

It ended with G.Washington taking his oath of office. But just before that, the actor who played Washington reads out the Constitution to the others from the document. As he is reading it; the camera goes around and shows various individuals in their daily lives, going about their business. I loved that part! Because it suggested how the "Constitution" would affect ordinary, everyday people.

But it showed how the debate rambled on, day after day. Some of them got so frustrated! There was even a couple of characters almost getting into a fist-fight! One guy wasn't happy with it still, just when they thought they had everything worked out. George Washington asks "Why?" like he just couldn't imagine anyone still having objections to it at the 11th hour!

But finally, they get it mostly ironed out, and it shows the marvelous moment when they all come up to sign it. But you're right, it was a different time, and the issues were different. But there were very stubborn people on both sides. And people on both sides meant well, because they knew the problems their own state had, and how the "Constitution" would affect them.

But they didn't have an extreme dictatorial (Socialist/Marxist) movement calling the shots from the sidelines like we do now. Of course, some may have been still clinging to the 'royalist' mentality even in those times. But at least they knew that in order to move forward, those on both sides would have to each give and take something.
16 posted on 07/08/2003 1:57:20 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: dsutah
You have an healthy interest in what the making of the Constitution was all about, and that's a good thing. The more you learn about that period in history the more you'll appreciate what those people handed down to us.

People in the 1700's had a different outlook on life than do the people of today. That's due, in part, to the people of the 1700's living under the autocratic rule of the English king. The people living today have no idea of what that must have been like, and so take their birthright for granted.

The closest you can get, today, for the feelings of those people in the 1700's would be a recent immigrant from a communist country. If you ever speak to a refugee from a place like China , or Cuba, or one of the eastern european countries, you'll find that they have a different appreciation of the freedoms Americans take for granted.

You're a citizen of this American Republic we live in, and as such you should have control over your government, not the other way around. A voting booth can be a powerful weapon, and should be used to elect ALL our law-makers not just some of them.
17 posted on 07/08/2003 4:51:51 PM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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To: Noachian
Rightly so! I have a feeling that it will be these very people who will help us in the long run to fight to preserve these freedoms. We have a temporary respite for now; but I'm afraid of some 6 years or so in the future when our present admin. is out of power.

Hopefully a good person will come along and carry the torch for G.Bush; and keep a totalitarian regime from getting in. These people were so spoiled under B.C.; that now they perceive their 'power' over the people is slipping. So they cling like cats clawing to hang on.

I'm afraid that many of us don't know how to take the country back close to where it was back in the 18th century. Many of us who would do something don't know where to begin! We would have to do much of it with baby steps.

I think that the "Founding Fathers" intended for us to grow. They envisioned the country becoming powerful; and being a 'beacon' of liberty for others to aspire to. But they would never have wanted us to get so powerful, that we get lazy and spoiled, and resemble the ruling powers we left behind!

Unfortunately, there are so many powerful lobbying groups that have their roots wrapped around certain people in power, just like the roots of a poisonous weed. We would have to fight twice as hard as they did back then. It could be done; but it would be very difficult to do without another war!
18 posted on 07/08/2003 9:44:12 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: harpu
A veritable George Washington the Savage Weiner is!!
19 posted on 07/08/2003 9:57:16 PM PDT by aSkeptic (I am a computer chair critic, so please don't get too excited.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Savage is a breath of fresh air. The mans on top of what the issues and morals for what this country was started for.

On another note...What he said today about clinton being the first black presedent was a riot.

Im liking him more everyday
20 posted on 07/08/2003 10:17:52 PM PDT by zoen
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To: dsutah
"Many of us who would do something don't know where to begin!"

It's not really hard to know where to begin, but it does get difficult after that. You begin with the premise that you live in a nation of The People, by The People, and for The People. Keep that phrase in your head and everything will fall into place.

The Founding Fathers handed down to us a Constitution that was a template for a unique way of governance, and it was based on individuals controlling those who governed them.

That was a VERY inique idea in the 1700's. Nations at that time were generally governed by kings or queens not by common men. But, here in the new world of America the idea worked, and from that template a mighty nation grew.

"But they would never have wanted us to get so powerful, that we get lazy and spoiled, and resemble the ruling powers we left behind!"

Unfortunately that's what's happening. Because of our way of governing, and the blood shed to keep us free, we have become a prosperous people, and that very prosperity has caused Americans to become governmentality spoiled and lazy. Americans are an industrious people, but as far as self-governance goes the average American is clueless.

The result of being governmentality spoiled, lazy, and clueless is letting other people make the laws that govern you. Some of those people are unelected, and are appointed to lifetime jobs with no accountability to anyone. By the time your average American finds time to see just what kind of laws are being passed, and who is passing them, his whole world has been rocked. And, that brings us to the SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS is nine unelected justices who are appointed to lifetime careers without any oversight by, or accountability to, The Common Man. They are, in effect, a tyranny within a Republic. They are charged with interpretation of the Constitution, and they have abused their office - repeatedly.

The Constitution is what the SCOTUS says it is which makes that document subject to the biases of a majority of the Justices. Their rulings have the effect of law and the Legislative branch is becoming rapidly irrelevant as a law making body.

The People have lost their ability to govern themselves, but there is a way out. Written into the Constitution are instructions on how to change it. The Founders put those instructions there knowing that one day the liberties of The People would come under attack and they'd need a peaceful means to defend themselves.

Amending the Constitution is difficult and time-consuming, but if you consider the alternatives, either slavery or rebellion, it's well worth the effort.

So, you see? It's not so difficult after all. You have a premise for a beginning and an Amendment for an ending - the middle part is up to you.

21 posted on 07/09/2003 6:04:21 AM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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