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TAKE NO PRISONERS: THE ANTI-LEFTLIB CRUSADE OF ANN COULTER
http://www.iconoclast.ca/newPage1.asp#DN ^ | July 8. 2003 | Murray Soupcoff (The Iconoclast)

Posted on 07/08/2003 11:04:58 AM PDT by Apolitical

ICONOCLAST DAILY NOTEBOOK....


TAKE NO PRISONERS: THE ANTI-LEFTLIB CRUSADE OF ANN COULTER
-- Please Ann, say it ain't so, about Joe!....




July 8 2003: Wow talk about hot! Ann Coulter is sizzling. She's got herself another best-seller on the NY Times best-seller list ("Treason"). She's got thousands of enthusiastic conservative young men panting with lust every time she pops up on Fox, CNN, MSNBC or Good Morning America to flail the leftist establishment, flaunting her long blonde locks, her ever-present plunging neckline and her very tart tongue. And she's got liberal pundits steaming, as she takes after hypocritical liberals, Hollywood peaceniks and Democrats with a witty vengeance.

"Take no prisoners" seems to be the watchword of Ms. Coulter's war on the left. And whether it's Katie Couric or Chris Matthews, Ann usually leaves her interrogators spluttering with outrage and incredulity. In fact, while promoting her new book, nasty Ann even cattily told Diane Sawyer that Hillary Clinton would have an unfair three-to-one weight advantage over Ann in any dustup between the two. She made it clear there's a reason that dowdy Hillary sticks to pants suits, versus the slinky Ms. Coulter who prefers the miniest of mini skirts as her usual dress mode.

Of course, viewing Hillary in a Coulter-style mini skirt might be enough to put male voters off sex for several years -- it's bad enough that Americans have been subjected to the unflattering sight of Mrs. Clinton's thick ankles for almost a decade. So perhaps Diane Sawyer was judicious in quickly changing the subject.

However, if Ann Coulter, the sexy conservative Queen of Mean, has one achilles heel, it's her propensity for overstated hyperbole. Over the top doesn't aptly describe some of Ann Coulter's statements about politics and history. After all, it takes a certain inclination to the outrageous to transform America's most notorious psycho senator and D.C. drunk, Joe -- "there's a Commie in every American cupboard " -- McCarthy, into an American folk hero -- never mind implying that such stalwart anti-Communist Democrats such as John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman were the equivalent of wussy fellow travellers of America's commie traitors.

Now before we go any further, let's get one thing straight. In this case, one can indeed praise the message (from Senator Joe) -- that the liberal Democratic establishment of the 1930's and 1940's allowed itself to be naively infiltrated by communist (Soviet) sympathizers, many of whom were spying for the tyrannical and murderous regime of Joseph Stalin, or accepting financial support from the same repressive dictatorship. But surely if one wishes to remain loyal to the historical record, it's still appropriate to want to metaphorically shoot the messenger bearing that message, Senator Joe McCarthy -- a sociopathic Washington ruffian who wished nothing more than to gain further political advantage and power by terrorizing the innocent as well as the guilty through his Commiet-baiting crusade.

Talk about making it up as you go along. Even though his basic message actually merited attention, Tailgunner Joe sullied it with so many lies and exaggerations that today he would qualify for a job as a New York Times correspondent. Certainly, by the time of his downfall, Senator Joseph MacCarthy had become the Jayson Blair of American anti-communism, demeaning his message with a litany of falsified fantasy and fiction....

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Another conservative has gotten all hot and bothered about Ann Coulter.
1 posted on 07/08/2003 11:04:58 AM PDT by Apolitical
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 11:06:22 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Apolitical
Coulter needs to have children ASAP....those genese have GOT to be passed on..
3 posted on 07/08/2003 11:07:19 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Apolitical
Make that two (2).
4 posted on 07/08/2003 11:07:34 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: Apolitical
her ever-present plunging neckline

Let's not get carried away here.

5 posted on 07/08/2003 11:10:56 AM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: ken5050
I offer myself as a volunteer; free of charge.
6 posted on 07/08/2003 11:11:28 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: Apolitical
I'm not familiar with this columnist. Is this out of line for him or is he like most liberal columnists? Looks to be the same old hit piece that comes out when Ann Coulter gores one of their cows.
7 posted on 07/08/2003 11:13:20 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Apolitical
Ann's picture's out of focus. I'll keep my wisecracks about going blind to myself for once.
8 posted on 07/08/2003 11:14:46 AM PDT by Argh
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To: Apolitical
"Tailgunner Joe sullied it with so many lies and exaggerations that today he would qualify for a job as a New York Times correspondent" I'm half way through Ann's book.

Ann footnotes and documents her book with facts!

Where are your facts Mr. Soupcoff?

9 posted on 07/08/2003 11:18:59 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Argh
Doesn't matter, Ann looks good even on radio!
10 posted on 07/08/2003 11:19:30 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: Apolitical
Talk about making it up as you go along. Even though his basic message actually merited attention, Tailgunner Joe sullied it with so many lies and exaggerations that today he would qualify for a job as a New York Times correspondent.

Such as? Can this bozo name a single one? Ann has meticulously documented everything she says. I have yet to hear a single one of her critics point to any factual error she has made, nor document any of their claims. They just repeat the same liberal assertions made by the NY Times and other media elites without any attempt to back it up.

11 posted on 07/08/2003 11:20:14 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Apolitical
Why are conservative pundit-babes most often, well, babes, and leftist pundit-hags most often, ummm, hags? Is it chromosomes, grooming habits, ideology, inner emotions, all the above?
12 posted on 07/08/2003 11:22:17 AM PDT by quark
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To: Apolitical
". . . Senator Joe McCarthy -- a sociopathic Washington ruffian who wished nothing more than to gain further political advantage and power by terrorizing the innocent as well as the guilty through his Commiet-baiting crusade. . ."

Hmmm, Replace "Senator Joe McCarthy" with: Bill Clinton, Senator Hillary Clinton, Former VP Al Gore,Senator (Swimmer)Kennedy, Senator Byrd, Senator Dashle, Sheez! ANY DEMOCRAT. No, all democrats.
13 posted on 07/08/2003 11:23:31 AM PDT by Roughneck (Starve the Beast!)
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To: Hugin
He doesn't say (in that bit, anyway) that Ann lied or exaggerated - he says Joe McCarthy did.
14 posted on 07/08/2003 11:24:11 AM PDT by m1911
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To: TexasCajun
I doubt this guy has even read her book.
15 posted on 07/08/2003 11:24:52 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: TexasCajun
Ann footnotes and documents her book with facts!

I agree. It is a marvelous book. Like any human Senator McCarthy had some flaws, and Ann chooses not to dwell on those flaws. There's nothing wrong with that -- he's been criticized quite enough. Ann focuses on the fact that McCarthy was doing the right thing and she's got plenty of facts backing up the concept that McCarthy was doing the right thing.

I consider him an American hero. He wouldn't be the first flawed hero in the world.

16 posted on 07/08/2003 11:28:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Apolitical
According to the definition of "iconoclast," it is a person who attacks settled beliefs or institutions. Mr Soupcoff proves himself to be anything BUT an iconoclast by simply regurgitating the same old worn out bromides of the left in describing Joe McCarthy.

Ann Coulter is a true iconoclast and makes a convincing argument.
17 posted on 07/08/2003 11:29:52 AM PDT by zchip
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Articles from the iconoclast.ca are regularly posted and enjoyed on Free Republic. He disagrees with Ann Coulter about Joe McCarthy, I don't think that suddenly makes him a liberal.
18 posted on 07/08/2003 11:31:36 AM PDT by m1911
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To: Apolitical
[ Senator Joseph MacCarthy had become the Jayson Blair of American anti-communism, demeaning his message with a litany of falsified fantasy and fiction.... ]

A sneaky weasle this guy... saveing the punchline for the end while quoteing David Horowitz without giveing him credit. The "conservative" hit squad is out. I've counted 3 so-called conservative parasites sapping mirrored fame from Annie's courageous tome, so far. Since democrats are not credible in any capacity, it will take a "conservative" to parse the truth into hyperbole. Was hopeing David Horowitz would not be one of them. This whiney simp is 3rd string, and lies.

19 posted on 07/08/2003 11:31:45 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Apolitical
I just love it! Ann Coulter has all the left-wing liberal "traitor" Democrats and a number of conservative pundits "gasping for air" over her best selling book, "Treason". That petite little lady, has actually sucked the air out of Hillary Clinton's book tour here in the United States. Now, Annie probably won't ever outsell Clinton, but she has derailed her book tour in the USA big time! Of course, on the Fourth of July, both treasonous Clintons were in Europe hawking Hillary's book, rather then spending it with the voters of New York State that put the "witch" in office! "Forget those low life, dumb voters in New York and screw the USA military folks. I, Hillary Clinton, The Devil's chosen representative on Earth, have a book to sell!" "Damn the Fourth of July and all those stupid Americans that honor it!" Hearing that remark, Mrs. Chirac laughed and said, "Hillary, Let Them Eat Cake!"
20 posted on 07/08/2003 11:33:17 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: m1911
He doesn't say (in that bit, anyway) that Ann lied or exaggerated - he says Joe McCarthy did.

The whole point of Ann's book is that he did not lie and any exaggeration were minor and inconsequntial. This guy ridicules her thesis without making any serious attempt to back up his claims about McCarthy.

Have you read Ann's book? If not you should.

21 posted on 07/08/2003 11:33:52 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
I picked up Ann's Book at the Library last night.

It was on display near the front. There were a few other political books on display but not Hillary!s.
22 posted on 07/08/2003 11:36:22 AM PDT by Rad_J
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To: Apolitical; TLBSHOW; ChadGore; RaceBannon; nopardons; DPB101; Pokey78; MeeknMing
Here is the FULL TEST from www.iconoclast.ca:
DAILY NOTEBOOK....


TAKE NO PRISONERS: THE ANTI-LEFTLIB CRUSADE OF ANN COULTER
-- Please Ann, say it ain't so, about Joe!....




July 8 2003: Wow talk about hot! Ann Coulter is sizzling. She's got herself another best-seller on the NY Times best-seller list ("Treason"). She's got thousands of enthusiastic conservative young men panting with lust every time she pops up on Fox, CNN, MSNBC or Good Morning America to flail the leftist establishment, flaunting her long blonde locks, her ever-present plunging neckline and her very tart tongue. And she's got liberal pundits steaming, as she takes after hypocritical liberals, Hollywood peaceniks and Democrats with a witty vengeance.

"Take no prisoners" seems to be the watchword of Ms. Coulter's war on the left. And whether it's Katie Couric or Chris Matthews, Ann usually leaves her interrogators spluttering with outrage and incredulity. In fact, while promoting her new book, nasty Ann even cattily told Diane Sawyer that Hillary Clinton would have an unfair three-to-one weight advantage over Ann in any dustup between the two. She made it clear there's a reason that dowdy Hillary sticks to pants suits, versus the slinky Ms. Coulter who prefers the miniest of mini skirts as her usual dress mode.

Of course, viewing Hillary in a Coulter-style mini skirt might be enough to put male voters off sex for several years -- it's bad enough that Americans have been subjected to the unflattering sight of Mrs. Clinton's thick ankles for almost a decade. So perhaps Diane Sawyer was judicious in quickly changing the subject.

However, if Ann Coulter, the sexy conservative Queen of Mean, has one achilles heel, it's her propensity for overstated hyperbole. Over the top doesn't aptly describe some of Ann Coulter's statements about politics and history. After all, it takes a certain inclination to the outrageous to transform America's most notorious psycho senator and D.C. drunk, Joe -- "there's a Commie in every American cupboard " -- McCarthy, into an American folk hero -- never mind implying that such stalwart anti-Communist Democrats such as John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman were the equivalent of wussy fellow travellers of America's commie traitors.

Now before we go any further, let's get one thing straight. In this case, one can indeed praise the message (from Senator Joe) -- that the liberal Democratic establishment of the 1930's and 1940's allowed itself to be naively infiltrated by communist (Soviet) sympathizers, many of whom were spying for the tyrannical and murderous regime of Joseph Stalin, or accepting financial support from the same repressive dictatorship. But surely if one wishes to remain loyal to the historical record, it's still appropriate to want to metaphorically shoot the messenger bearing that message, Senator Joe McCarthy -- a sociopathic Washington ruffian who wished nothing more than to gain further political advantage and power by terrorizing the innocent as well as the guilty through his Commiet-baiting crusade.

Talk about making it up as you go along. Even though his basic message actually merited attention, Tailgunner Joe sullied it with so many lies and exaggerations that today he would qualify for a job as a New York Times correspondent. Certainly, by the time of his downfall, Senator Joseph MacCarthy had become the Jayson Blair of American anti-communism, demeaning his message with a litany of falsified fantasy and fiction.

Of course, as is her custom, Ann Coulter has something very important to say in her new book "Treason," and in her many promotional outings on its behalf -- left-liberals have spent a half century using the bogeyman of "McCarthyism" to discourage criticism of, and distract attention from, the many sins of the left in America over the years. And granted, Ms. Coulter justifiably makes a number of important points about the follies of the American left during the Cold War, and the merits of the anti-communist crusade in America (especially in the light of recent confirmatory evidence about leftist American treachery unearthed from the archives of the Soviet Comintern and from the decrypted Venona files of the F.B.I.).

But geeez! Tailgunner Joe McCarthy, an America hero?

C'mon Ann. Tell us that maybe that's a wee bit of an exaggeration...that perhaps you got carried away in making your point about the merit of the McCarthy message. But surely you don't really mean it about the man being a hero!

Please Ann. Say it ain't so, about Joe!
The Iconoclast

23 posted on 07/08/2003 11:36:49 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Apolitical
I don't know who this author is, but I don't think that he read the book. Ann states on page 11 that Kennedy and some of the other Democrats, through the sixties were as vehemently opposed to communism as McCarthy.

This is another hit piece.
24 posted on 07/08/2003 11:36:50 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Apolitical
"Murray" is a Bolshevik or as MSavage says, "a red diaper baby."
25 posted on 07/08/2003 11:38:05 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Apolitical
Having a best selling book will engender envy and bitterness from both sides.

Being a hot, leggy blond who also has a razor sharp, withering, wit, will only exasperate their envy and bitterness.

26 posted on 07/08/2003 11:39:41 AM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Apolitical
Innit funny? Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, and Kathleen Harris all got slagged over and over again for their looks. (Which liberal commentator was it who said Harris looked "like she'd put her makeup on with a putty knife" ?) So along comes Ann Coulter, who is without question a babe, and now she looks too good to be taken seriously?

Is there no pleasing liberal commentators?

(Dumb question, I know.)

27 posted on 07/08/2003 11:46:29 AM PDT by brbethke
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To: brbethke
Is there no pleasing liberal commentators?

They prefer Hillary and Helen Thomas.

28 posted on 07/08/2003 11:51:33 AM PDT by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: ken5050
Coulter needs to have children ASAP....

Yes! Yes! She must have MY children...!!!

29 posted on 07/08/2003 11:54:19 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: Hugin
No, I haven't read it. I will before I comment on it.
30 posted on 07/08/2003 11:56:54 AM PDT by m1911
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To: Apolitical
"Plunging neckline" or no, what difference would it make?
31 posted on 07/08/2003 12:01:02 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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The photo there resembles Sarah Michelle Gellar, another conserva-babe.
32 posted on 07/08/2003 12:01:37 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SwinneySwitch
She was on Scarborough last night and looked the best I've seen her--someone did a fine makeup job on her and it was very flattering. She had a chance to talk about her book without some flaming idiot talking over her. It was nice for a change.
33 posted on 07/08/2003 12:03:13 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Apolitical
As most detractors of Coulter's book, this commentator misses the whole point.

The book is an indictment of liberals and the democrat party.

As the libs have demonized McCarthy in order to detract from his message, so Coulter is demonized for her analysis of the McCarthy years.

What about the main theme?

If this is not addressed, any review of the book is bogus.

yitbos

34 posted on 07/08/2003 12:08:28 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Joe McCarthy was right)
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To: zchip
They also make Joe sound like some nasty old man. Truth is he was the age I am now when it was all going down, and everyone freaking liked him, even his enemies. And 30,000 people turned out to pay their last respects when he died. Yes, By God it's TIME for him to be rehabilitated.
35 posted on 07/08/2003 12:11:08 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger.)
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To: Apolitical
Conteplating Ann would make many men think that "having only one wife..is not generous!"
36 posted on 07/08/2003 12:12:25 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Hugin
The whole point of Ann's book is that he did not lie and any exaggeration were minor and inconsequntial.

Now that we've had a chance to read and digest the book (I'm only just past the Red Scare portion and on to Vietnam) I sense the conversation rightly turning to McCarthy. I've had a sense that he was right for some time, seeing how many fellow travelers there really are in the State Department and Hollywood. Now I find out the the blacklists were a fiction, and the liberals then were just as mean and nasty as they are now.
37 posted on 07/08/2003 12:14:18 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger.)
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To: George Smiley
SNORT! That's too funny.
38 posted on 07/08/2003 12:26:53 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Apolitical
"his message ... a litany of falsified fantasy and fiction"

This is certainly not a conservative point of view.
39 posted on 07/08/2003 12:26:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: George Smiley
"They prefer Hillary and Helen Thomas."

Crones to the bones, for sure.

40 posted on 07/08/2003 12:26:58 PM PDT by semaj
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To: martin gibson
Nah, she can have mine....grin! Of course, my three handsome blond sons would probably not want to think of her as MOM!
41 posted on 07/08/2003 12:27:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: ken5050
I volunteer to help!
42 posted on 07/08/2003 12:31:44 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Argh
"Ann's picture's out of focus. I'll keep my wisecracks about going blind to myself for once."

Whew... I thought it was just me.

But, but, Dad! Can't I just do it 'til I need glasses?!

43 posted on 07/08/2003 12:33:10 PM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Apolitical
Someone please POST a better picture than that the fuzzy one. Come one.
44 posted on 07/08/2003 12:34:27 PM PDT by zoen
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To: Hatteras

45 posted on 07/08/2003 12:35:36 PM PDT by evets (hi there)
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To: Hatteras
"You go out and get a job to pay for those glasses and it's fine with me. Just don't let your momma catch you at it."
46 posted on 07/08/2003 12:36:35 PM PDT by Argh
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To: Hugin
I agree, a very good read. They footnotes are a good source for further reading.

It would be nice if one of these critics would give one example of what a vile sociopath McCarthy was. They never do. They seem to believe that if you call someone enough names, you can destroy his reputation. Oh, isn't that what they accuse McCarthy of doing.

47 posted on 07/08/2003 12:39:04 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: ClearCase_guy
Joe was demonized by the COMMIE LOVING LEFT, and made a fool by the COMMIE LOVING MEDIA, he was a flawed human but his 'rantings' were PROVED correct by the Venona projects recent release of Top Secret papers. The COMMIE LOVING LEFT and the COMMIE LOVING MEDIA owe Joe an apology. Don't hold your breath.
48 posted on 07/08/2003 12:42:52 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: mvpel
> The photo there resembles Sarah Michelle Gellar, another conserva-babe.

Huh? Buffy is a conservative?!
49 posted on 07/08/2003 12:45:13 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: ken5050
He's right, the Rats have NEVER supported ANY Communist dicators. They never supported Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Gorbechev, Pol Pot, Castro, Che Cuevera, Ortega, Saddam... No there is no pattern of Communist sympathizing at all. McCarthy was just a drunk, sociopathic paranoid.

Ann Rox!

Pray for GW and the Truth

50 posted on 07/08/2003 12:48:38 PM PDT by bray ( Old Glory Stands for Freedom)
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