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Iranian Alert: Cuba reportedly Jamming US Based Iranian broadcasters Uplink Signal Into Iran.
NITV | 7.8.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 07/08/2003 1:04:07 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

This just in...

Today is the day all Iran has been waiting for, the day the protests and strikes are to begin in earnest. As a result, the Iranian government has successfully, but temporarily jammed all the signals of the LA based Iranian broadcasters.

They are now jamming the uplink signal, here in the United States as well. The uplink signal is the signal from the broadcast studio to the satellite, which is then relayed to another satellite and finally broadcast over Iran. This started occurring a few days ago. I was told that the FCC now believes the jamming is coming from within Cuba.

This should be reported in all the media. But the media is still silent, (except for a brief mention of these jamming incidents in today’s National Review Online).

The broadcasters are convinced that one or more of them will eventually get a signal through. They are busily readjusting their systems to use different satellites. I wish you could hear what these broadcasters are saying to the people of Iran. They are essentially calling for the people to revolt. Giving specific instructions to the people regarding how to do this. They are able to say things our government would never say. They are also strong advocates of an American style conservative ideology replacing the Islamic regime. They are teaching the people of Iran what freedom is and what it requires. Most are conservative Republicans and they are considered heroes in Iran.

Good news, the phones still appear to be working, at least for the moment. I will keep you posted.

DoctorZIn

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”


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1 posted on 07/08/2003 1:04:08 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 1:05:08 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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3 posted on 07/08/2003 1:05:29 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Support Free Republic
Sounds to me like we need to add Cuba to the Axis of Evil.
4 posted on 07/08/2003 1:07:00 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: freedom44
ping.
5 posted on 07/08/2003 1:08:22 PM PDT by Gabrielle Reilly
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To: DoctorZIn; *Bush Doctrine Unfold; *war_list; W.O.T.; Eurotwit; freedom44; FairOpinion; ...
CUBA??????

Its a commie plot that's for sure!

Send a Carrier Group to the Carribbean!!!!!!

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6 posted on 07/08/2003 1:08:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: DoctorZIn; mvpel
NIGEL: This is what we use on stage, but it's very...very special because if you can see...

MARTY: Yeah...

NIGEL: ...the numbers all go to eleven. Look...right across the board.

MARTY: Ahh...oh, I see....

NIGEL: Eleven...eleven...eleven....

MARTY: ...and most of these amps go up to ten....

NIGEL: Exactly.

MARTY: Does that mean it's...louder? Is it any louder?

NIGEL: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most...most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here...all the way up...all the way up....

MARTY: Yeah....

NIGEL: ...all the way up. You're on ten on your guitar...where can you go from there? Where?

MARTY: I don't know....

NIGEL: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is if we need that extra...push over the cliff...you know what we do?

MARTY: Put it up to eleven.

NIGEL: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

MARTY: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top... number...and make that a little louder?

NIGEL: ...these go to eleven.

7 posted on 07/08/2003 1:10:18 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer
THis is Spinal Tap!
8 posted on 07/08/2003 1:13:36 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: jriemer

9 posted on 07/08/2003 1:16:28 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: DoctorZIn; Jeff Head; HighRoadToChina; Paul Ross; lavaroise; Orion78; Noswad; swarthyguy
I point to this case, the use of facilities in (PRC and USSR2 aligned) Cuba to jam signals we are using to incite rebellion in PRC and USSR2 client state Iran, as further evidence of the covert coordination between the resurgent Sino - Soviet empire and their 21st century Nazi equivalent, the Islamofascist international empire. Since Hitler was the "Icebreaker" for the Communists in WW-II, naturally, the Islamist states will be the "Icebreaker" for them in WW-III. The Cold War did not end, it only stopped briefly to catch its breath.

The Axis we face....

10 posted on 07/08/2003 1:16:39 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: jriemer

11 posted on 07/08/2003 1:18:00 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: DoctorZIn
While I'm pleased to hear the news about Iran, I'd have to say that the jamming is almost definitely coming from within Iran itself.

Cuba jamming a satellite uplink originating in Los Angeles is unlikely. In short, you don't jam the sender, you jam the reciever, unless you have a huge ammount of power available. That means they'd have to be targeting the satellite. (Cuba?) Even if Cuba could put out enough power to jam the signal out of L.A., they'd wind up jamming a lot more than just Iranian TV.

Deliberate and overt jamming into another country is a internationally recongnized hostile act. I don't think Cuba has a dog in this fight, so why would they risk the smackdown? It would be very easy to prove if they were doing it, as the signature would be enormous. Interfering with the satellite would also be an invitation for trouble, and I doubt that Cuba has the capability.

Its far more likely and technologically feasible for the Iranians to be disrupting the downlink. I'm not a jamming guru, but I'm sure the signal is far more vulnerable to the mullahs when it reaches Iran than before.

12 posted on 07/08/2003 1:18:04 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Please post links to your sources. This merits investigation from a certain media watchdog group...
13 posted on 07/08/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by walford (The truth cannot be made, only discovered)
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To: Montfort
Sounds to me like we need to add Cuba to the Axis of Evil.

As in: "You Wanna Piece O' THIS?!"

Here's an example of pieces coming together with a thread: I'm listening to the Van Halen song "Right Now" and reading a thread about the Iranian Revolution. Goosebumps on the arms, youbetcha!
14 posted on 07/08/2003 1:19:48 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Let me get this straight.

An Iranian group is broadcasting via Sattelite from LA to Iran, by Sat Relay. Cuba is intercepting and jamming the signal.

Could this not be interpreted as an act of provocation?

15 posted on 07/08/2003 1:20:01 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: DoctorZIn
...Communist Venzuala Leader CHAVEZ gives $$-Billions-$$ to Communist Cuba Leader CASTRO's new plan to take over Central America =

...The Missiles of 2003..???

16 posted on 07/08/2003 1:23:10 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comw)
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To: DoctorZIn
Let's jam up all the Cuban broadcast media, it's all used for propaganda anyway. We have the capability.

Porque no?

17 posted on 07/08/2003 1:23:36 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Steel Wolf
...Cuba jamming a satellite uplink originating in Los Angeles is unlikely...

I am just reporting what the FCC is apparently telling NITV. We had heard reports earlier that the FCC was investigating mobile vehicles suspected of being the source of the jamming. I am just passing along what I am hearing. I will keep you posted.
18 posted on 07/08/2003 1:23:51 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: Steel Wolf
Cuba jamming a satellite uplink originating in Los Angeles is unlikely. In short, you don't jam the sender, you jam the reciever, unless you have a huge ammount of power available. That means they'd have to be targeting the satellite. (Cuba?) Even if Cuba could put out enough power to jam the signal out of L.A., they'd wind up jamming a lot more than just Iranian TV.

It's possible that the Cubans can jam satellite TV. They have been jamming TV and Radio Marti (a broadcast service of Voice of America and a branch of the State Department) since 1990 - thus building up quite a bit of experience. In 2002, TV Martie's budget was $470 million.

Cuban Jamming equipment

TV Marti Jamming on Oscilliscope

19 posted on 07/08/2003 1:25:19 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
KNOBS!
20 posted on 07/08/2003 1:25:47 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: belmont_mark
Be careful, you'll have Russian_Conservative asking why you're so mean to the capitalist Russian society. ;-)

(Hint for R_C, if he's reading this: the society may be craving capitalism, but the elite isn't. The elite never, ever does.)

Do you ever read J.R. Nyquist? He is rather firmly planted in the idea of a Sleeping Soviet.
21 posted on 07/08/2003 1:27:39 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: walford
...Please post links to your sources. This merits investigation from a certain media watchdog group...

Contact NITV and Azadi TV, both are LA based Iranian broadcast networks whose signals they report are being jammed. There are others as well but these are two of the most popular.

NITV:
818-716-0000
http://www.nitv.tv/main.htm

Azadi TV:
818 700 0666
http://www.azaditv.com/prog_01.htm

I hope this helps.
22 posted on 07/08/2003 1:29:10 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: jriemer
Turn that baby up to 11!!
23 posted on 07/08/2003 1:31:39 PM PDT by ewing
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To: DoctorZIn
I am just reporting what the FCC is apparently telling NITV.

It would be much credible if this got confirmed somehow!!!!!!!!!

24 posted on 07/08/2003 1:32:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: ewing; Zavien Doombringer
Turn that baby up to 11!!

Don't have a cow man...

25 posted on 07/08/2003 1:34:39 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: DoctorZIn
Sounds like some Predator action against Cuba is called for.

The following is from From President Bush's May speech aboard the USS Lincoln

Any person, organization, or government that supports, protects, or harbors terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent, and equally guilty of terrorist crimes.

26 posted on 07/08/2003 1:34:52 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: DoctorZIn
Thanks for your updates!
27 posted on 07/08/2003 1:35:43 PM PDT by cmsgop (Has anyone seen my Schwab ?)
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To: jriemer
Okay, a weather balloon and a few modified MI-17's have NO chance to disrupt a satellite uplink two thousand miles away. I'm sure they're very effective at blocking radio and TV signals from entering Cuba. The satellites are going to be broadcasting in the GHz range, at least above 1.6, I'd guess. They're doing in Cuba what the Iranians are likely doing in Tehran, a screening, static pattern to block incoming signals.

If Cuba was blasting LA or communication satellites, it wouldn't be the FCC tracking it, it would be the NSA. Unless Iranian TV has its own satellite, the disruption would be noticed by other users.

I have no doubt that the Iranians are jamming the signal with everything they've got, I'm just saying the Cuban connection is probably not legit.

28 posted on 07/08/2003 1:35:48 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...I am just reporting what the FCC is apparently telling NITV.
It would be much credible if this got confirmed somehow!!!!!!!!! ...

I heard the report from the president of NITV myself, and as I said even the National Review Online reported this. " (Disturbingly, there are indications that the signals are being stopped from locations in Europe and the U.S.)... "

Check it out at:

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-dayanim070803.asp

I have not had time to talk with the FCC. Want to help? Check it out. I would love to hear their statement.
29 posted on 07/08/2003 1:38:10 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: Steel Wolf
The Cuban equipment used was used to block transmissions from line-of-sight transmitters in the Florida Keys. As we can both admit, nothing really fancy. Bang-rocks-to-make- fire technology.

If they're blocking the satellite transmission they're using something else a bit more sophisticated and not searchable by Google.com

30 posted on 07/08/2003 1:42:41 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: DoctorZIn
You forgot to add his picture:

31 posted on 07/08/2003 1:42:46 PM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Steel Wolf
From an omni-directional perspective (radio tower) you would be right, but in directional broadcast, it would be easiest to direct a second signal at the satelite. This would prevent the satelite from locking onto the carrier signal. The garbled signal would never even be relayed to a satelite over Iran.
Blocking satelite transmissions on the receiving end is fairly difficult because of its directionality. You would need lots of power very close to overcome the directionality of a dish pointing up.
32 posted on 07/08/2003 1:47:23 PM PDT by blanknoone
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To: jriemer
BTW, I was told by the president of NITV that it was the FCC who contacted him to tell him his signal was being jammed because they are required to investigate the jamming of any uplink signals that persist for over 2 hours.
33 posted on 07/08/2003 1:47:34 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: jriemer
BTW, I was told by the president of NITV that it was the FCC who contacted him to tell him his signal was being jammed because they are required to investigate the jamming of any uplink signals that persist for over 2 hours.
34 posted on 07/08/2003 1:47:35 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: DoctorZIn
Another link between mass murdering Islamofacists and mass murdering Communists has been made.

35 posted on 07/08/2003 1:50:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: jriemer
There is the probable/possible answer to your question of who is/was jamming the satellite tv signal from here to Iran.
36 posted on 07/08/2003 1:51:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Steel Wolf
If Cuba was blasting LA or communication satellites, it wouldn't be the FCC tracking it, it would be the NSA.

Bingo. Go to the head of the class.

But let's go one step further: The National Security Agency itself is jamming the signals.

Now why would the NSA do that, I hear you ask.

Read the papers. Colin Powell is backtracking on the earlier idea of regime change in Iran, and he is making it clear to the mullahs that we're staying out of the current crisis. Powell would not make such a comment on his own. (And if he did, hard-liners in the Bush Administration would tear him a new one in the Washington Times.) Therefore, Powell speaks for the Administration.

Now why would the Bush Administration do something like that, I hear you ask.

Because we have enough problems stabilizing Iraq due to the urban insurgency we're fighting there. (And we're going into Liberia, no less!) We need the mullahs to keep their hands off Iraq. With so much on its plate, the Bush Administration has bowed to expediency and is jamming the broadcasts, effectively propping up the regime of the mullahs.

Realpolitik can be really nasty sometimes.

37 posted on 07/08/2003 1:57:39 PM PDT by Publius
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To: DoctorZIn
We had heard reports earlier that the FCC was investigating mobile vehicles suspected of being the source of the jamming. I am just passing along what I am hearing. I will keep you posted.

That is technically feasible, but I say this: You'd have to have some balls, real balls, to roll into Los Angeles with satellite jammers, and fire them up. The FCC (and others) will bag them like fish in a bucket.

Those responsible would be caught as foriegn agents operting electronic warfare equipment in enemy territory while out of uniform. I'm acquainted with that part of the Geneva Convention, and it's short. Very short. I dare say that neither the Cubans nor the Iranians have the cajones for that ploy.

38 posted on 07/08/2003 1:58:27 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Publius
The Bush administration is jamming the signal?

Doubtful.

39 posted on 07/08/2003 1:58:51 PM PDT by Smogger
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40 posted on 07/08/2003 1:59:23 PM PDT by ewing
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To: Grampa Dave
Wasnt there a report by Bill Gertz a while back that some of Saddams cronies were hiding in Cuba?
41 posted on 07/08/2003 2:01:02 PM PDT by ewing
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To: DoctorZIn
Looked up the Iranian shortwave broadcasts in English targeting North America.

Here are the two frequencies, UTC times.

Haven't tried them myself yet, but:

9590, 11920KHz, both at 0030-0127 and 0130-0227

(This IS the government broadcast)

42 posted on 07/08/2003 2:02:47 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Frank_Discussion
Not only have I read (and studied) Nyquist but also Kagan and Kagan, (Paul) Johnson, Golitsyn, Sejna, Sokolovskii, Subrarov, Bodansky, Nemets and Patton.
43 posted on 07/08/2003 2:04:23 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Steel Wolf
Lourdes..... with recent Chinese (and perhaps additional covert Russian) upgrades.....
44 posted on 07/08/2003 2:05:32 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Publius
Okay, I'll grant that NSA could block the signal with far greater ease than the Cubans. Beyond that, there's no logic in us keeping Iran together.

The Administration is very good at alternating between tension and slack, and if we're cutting them some slack right now, it's probably because we don't want to make the Iranian students look like puppets. If we were caught, or it were later discovered, that we helped the mullahs stay in power, we'd destroy our relationship with the new Iran.

It's possible, but it would be a high risk, no gain proposition.

45 posted on 07/08/2003 2:07:43 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: belmont_mark
You've surpassed me in the subject matter - What conclusions does the information lead you to?
46 posted on 07/08/2003 2:12:02 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: belmont_mark
Okay, but why? Why would Castro risk getting in our business (if the signals originate from the U.S., it's legally our business) just to help out the Iranians? Castro's been all talk, no game when it comes to the U.S. for about 40 years. He is so close to us, we'd easily spot the signal and be all over him.
47 posted on 07/08/2003 2:12:49 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: blanknoone
From an omni-directional perspective (radio tower) you would be right, but in directional broadcast, it would be easiest to direct a second signal at the satelite

It would require quite a bit of finesse to target and jam one signal going into a communications satellite, and not interfere with any of the others, which would be on very similar frequencies.

From earlier protests and TV disruptions, Iranians had noted the installation of certain devices around the city of Tehran that were suspected to be jammers. They did experience considerable interference, although not a complete blackout.

48 posted on 07/08/2003 2:21:11 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Why would Castro risk getting in our business (if the signals originate from the U.S., it's legally our business) just to help out the Iranians?

Oil. His economy is falling apart. It is worth the risk for him.

49 posted on 07/08/2003 2:21:57 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Steel Wolf
The Administration is very good at alternating between tension and slack, and if we're cutting them some slack right now, it's probably because we don't want to make the Iranian students look like puppets.

You're correct about the Administration's good cop/bad cop act. They're very good at this. And certainly we wouldn't want to make the students look like they're doing our bidding.

But you need to keep your eye on the ball. Iran will fall eventually, but the ball at the moment is Iraq. We're running into trouble fighting an urban insurgency. We've never been very good at fighting insurgencies, and it's one of our weakest areas militarily. We need to keep the mullahs from assisting their brethren in Iraq, and you can be sure the mullahs are charging a price. They do nothing for free.

If we were caught, or it were later discovered, that we helped the mullahs stay in power, we'd destroy our relationship with the new Iran...It's possible, but it would be a high risk, no gain proposition.

High risk, yes. But the risk is necessary because of the situation in Iraq. We assumed a good clean surrender (like Japan in 1945), and we didn't get it. So now it gets complicated.

That's why we have all these cover stories. Yesterday, it was vans driving around Atlanta. Today it's Cuba. If the NSA isn't responsible for the jamming as part of an unspoken agreement between the Administration and the mullahs, the NSA certainly knew within minutes who was responsible and either would have stopped it (vans in Atlanta) or sent a warning (Cuba). Instead, we have the spectacle of the "FCC" being unable to figure out who is doing the jamming and from where. The cover stories don't pass the smell test.

We're taking the risk of alienating the future government of Iran for the sake of getting the situation in Iraq under control. It's realpolitik. It's ugly.

50 posted on 07/08/2003 2:24:19 PM PDT by Publius
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