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WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE BEING CENSORED (Ann Coulter)
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Posted on 07/09/2003 4:22:51 PM PDT by ChadGore

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE BEING CENSORED
By Ann Coulter

Earlier this year, the Screen Actors Guild (news - web sites) issued a statement lamenting that "those in the public eye should suffer professionally for having the courage to give voice to their views. Even a hint of the blacklist must never again be tolerated in this nation." Feeling the lash of a right-wing blacklist, the Dixie Chicks (news - web sites) recently played to an adoring, sold-out crowd at Madison Square Garden.

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But earlier this week, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., denounced a radio corporation's decision not to play the Dixie Chicks as similar to Nazism and McCarthyism. The Dixie Chicks lead singer ridiculed President Bush (news - web sites) before a foreign audience. That was constitutionally protected free speech. The decision of radio stations not to play the Dixie Chicks, however, is not a matter of their own free speech.

Conservatives are openly blackballed in all the liberal professions -- publishing, Hollywood, the mainstream media, education and college faculties. Apparently, that's not "blacklisting." It is churlish for conservatives to complain about private censorship. True blacklisting occurs only when someone scowls at a liberal.

Ronald Radosh is one of the nation's pre-eminent historians, but he is blacklisted from American universities because he wrote a book concluding that the Rosenbergs were guilty -- a few years before decrypted Soviet cables were released proving they were guilty.

Inasmuch as Radosh had once been a "progressive" himself, a fatwa was inevitable. Radosh marched for the Rosenbergs. He attended candlelight vigils for the Rosenbergs. He was even personally acquainted with Pete Seeger! But after setting out to write a book proving the Rosenbergs innocent, his research led him to conclude otherwise. He was a liberal who rejected the faith. Under strict fatwa procedures, Radosh had to be banned from academia.

As has been copiously detailed by John Judis in the liberal New Republic magazine, whenever Radosh is on the verge of being hired by a major university, the liberal wolf pack bays and suddenly the position disappears. Anonymous critics were quoted "question(ing) his credentials." One historian told Judis: "I wouldn't hire a red-baiter like Ron." Another said Radosh was "not a historian at all."

Columbia history professor Eric Foner claimed Radosh's book on the Rosenbergs violated the canons of historical scholarship. As any infant knows, one of the canons of historical scholarship is to mindlessly hold as an article of faith the manifestly absurd belief that the Rosenbergs were innocent. It is an affront to good scholarship to suggest otherwise. Most devastatingly, Foner -- once president of the American Historical Association -- accused Radosh of "liberal anti-communism." Other historians have even stooped so low as to call Radosh a "conservative." One editor said he believed Radosh was a CIA (news - web sites) agent.

American college students are learning history from people who believe the Rosenbergs were innocent idealists and Radosh is a CIA agent. (How are the grades for students who write term papers saying the Rosenbergs were guilty?)

Obtaining a teaching position was not so difficult for Joel Kovel, who holds the prestigious "Alger Hiss Professor of Social Studies" chair at Bard College. With superb timing, in 1994, just one year before the Venona cables were declassified, Kovel published a book describing anti-communism as a psychiatric condition. Appropriately, Kovel dedicated the book to his chair's namesake, Soviet spy Alger Hiss. Making paranoid accusations based on his own neurotic impulses, Kovel explained that America's anti-communism was a form of anti-Semitism.

He should know. In a 2002 article, Kovel called the West Bank "a huge concentration camp," and demanded to know: "Why does the Zionist community, in raging against terrorism, forget that three of its prime ministers within the last 20 years, Begin, Shamir and Sharon, are openly recognized to have been world-class terrorists and mass murderers?"

But in his book "Red Hunting in the Promised Land" -- dedicated to uber-WASP communist Hiss -- Kovel raved: "The Communist became ... the archaic blood villain of Western civilization -- the Jew who killed Christ, the black Hamitic son of Noah, the howling savage beyond the gates reminding 100 percent Americans of the terrors of the dark." (Now that's serious scholarship.)

When the Venona Project was declassified one year later, it turned out there was another likely explanation for America's anti-communism. To wit: the fact that the government was crawling with Soviet spies feverishly passing atomic technology to America's mortal enemy. But right up until the Soviet cables were declassified, Kovel's lunatic psychological theory was accepted in the journals of mainstream opinion. His book describing anti-communism as a mental defect was one of The Washington Post's recommended books in 1994.

Unlike Radosh, who did not need to read Soviet cables to figure out that Julius Rosenberg was a spy, Kovel has encountered no difficulty in landing any number of teaching positions. In addition to holding the coveted Traitor Chair at Bard College, he has been an anthropology professor at the New School for Social Research; a professor of political science and communications at the University of California, San Diego; a lecturer at San Diego State University; and a professor at the Saybrook Institute in San Francisco.

People who have dedicated their lives to exposing lesbian imagery in "Moby-Dick" are more prevalent on the nation's campuses than serious scholars. The nation's colleges and universities have become a Safe Streets program for traitors and lunatics. At least Tailgunner Joe got them out of government work.


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1 posted on 07/09/2003 4:22:52 PM PDT by ChadGore
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2 posted on 07/09/2003 4:24:10 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: ChadGore
Please read this:


http://frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8793

I was a great fan of Ann's but have had cause to reconsider, and not just because of this piece I have pointed out to you.
3 posted on 07/09/2003 4:32:57 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: ChadGore
The nation's colleges and universities have become a Safe Streets program for traitors and lunatics.

ROFL. Another zinger !
4 posted on 07/09/2003 4:36:39 PM PDT by tet68
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To: ChadGore
Ann is a brilliant goddess who should be treated like a queen.
5 posted on 07/09/2003 4:42:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (If they sneak in throw em out on their chin!!)
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To: annyokie
Look up the FR thread on this article. Horowitz never even read the book.
6 posted on 07/09/2003 4:44:46 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: tet68
bttt
7 posted on 07/09/2003 4:45:08 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: netmilsmom
I doubt that. David reads everything. The man is brilliant.
8 posted on 07/09/2003 4:46:06 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: netmilsmom
I'll read the thread if you'll give me a link or a title to search for.
9 posted on 07/09/2003 4:46:57 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: annyokie
Here is the link...I love Ann and Horowitz as well.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/942157/posts
10 posted on 07/09/2003 4:49:48 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: netmilsmom
Thanks! I'll go read.
11 posted on 07/09/2003 4:51:51 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: ChadGore
Joel Kovel, who holds the prestigious "Alger Hiss Professor of Social Studies" chair at Bard College . . . Kovel published a book describing anti-communism as a psychiatric condition.

This guy is dangerous. The Soviets used the diagnosis of "sluggish schizophrenia" to consign those opposed to communism to mental hospitals. What parent in their right mind would pay to send their kids to Bard?

And what is up with Leon Botstein, the president of Bard? He is one of the few sane liberals left. Or he was. Botstein is the only lefty I know of who has ever made a proposal for education reform which didn't include more money and more time in school--he wants to cut two years off K-12.

12 posted on 07/09/2003 4:53:51 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: annyokie
I doubt that. David reads everything.

Read the thread. Horowitz either didn't read Coulter's book before criticizing it, or he lied about its contents.

13 posted on 07/09/2003 4:56:00 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: ChadGore
"People who have dedicated their lives to exposing lesbian imagery in "Moby-Dick" are more prevalent on the nation's campuses than serious scholars."

I wonder if Coulter was joking when she wrote this.

My freshman year at Haverford College back in 1984, the entire freshman class was required to attend a lecture on feminist themes in "Moby Dick." The professor explained that when the men had to go down to the water to hunt the whale. Since the ocean was a metaphor for femininity, they were getting in touch with their female side.

14 posted on 07/09/2003 5:16:11 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Ichneumon; netmilsmom
Dorothy Rabinowitz's slam on Coulter also has problems.
15 posted on 07/09/2003 5:19:58 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Our man in washington
Asked to find symbolism in Moby Dick in high school on a test, I wrote that Ahab represented the Semitic peoples rising up to murder the generally peace-loving, but potentially deadly, Caucasian race. And that Ishmael was Israel, caught in between the two. And that Starbuck would open a huge multinational coffee chain first.

You can read anything into anything if you try hard enough.
16 posted on 07/09/2003 5:26:35 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (I don't even wanna talk about what Queequeg represented.)
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To: ChadGore
bump
17 posted on 07/09/2003 5:27:15 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: ChadGore
Columbia history professor Eric Foner claimed Radosh's book on the Rosenbergs violated the canons of historical scholarship.

Foner is not exactly unbiased on the matter of communism as he was a red-diaper baby... father was Philip Foner.

"I criticized labor historians for their devotion to Marx and their admiration of such Marxist historians as Philip Foner, Herbert Aptheker, and Eric Hobsbawm. Marx’s theories are wicked and wrong, said I, and Foner’s, Aptheker’s, and Hobsbawm’s “scholarship” is irreparably marred by their communism.

Foner’s multi-volume “History of the Labor Movement in the United States,” for example, is predictable and sectarian. He demonstrates little understanding of workers or of capitalism, and attacks all other historians who are not sufficiently supportive of Soviet communism. Foner was also a plagiarist and may even have destroyed historical documents to prevent other researchers from viewing them."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=8358

Also this...

Philip Foner, author of "Karl Marx Remembered", had this to say,

"I am confident that when the 200th anniversary of the death of Karl Marx will be observed, the entire world will be socialist."

18 posted on 07/09/2003 6:06:51 PM PDT by Tamzee (Peace is the prerogative of the victorious, not the vanquished.... Churchill)
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To: ChadGore
I'm trying to do a little "transactional analysis" here. I think that Ann Coulter wanted to write a book that "exposed" liberals as the catspaws of America's enemies. I believe that she wanted to distinguish her book from books on the same general subject (e.g. "Useful Idiots"; "Radical Son"), and she wanted a snappy, one word title to remind readers of her best seller, "Slander". But why did she have to throw the "T" word around? No, I don't believe that JFK was a traitor, and I don't believe that the DNC was being run by the Politburo. And why, in the name of all that's Holy, did she have to defend a loud-mouthed alcoholic like McCarthy?
19 posted on 07/09/2003 6:23:22 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: ChadGore
The nation's colleges and universities have become a Safe Streets program for traitors and lunatics.

Florence King's father used to say that colleges existed to provide employment for men who couldn't make a living with their hands or their heads.

20 posted on 07/09/2003 6:34:17 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS, WE PRINT")
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To: ChadGore; cherry_bomb88; iceskater; sultan88; Treasa
True blacklisting occurs only when someone scowls at a liberal.

In her own unique & discriminating way, Ann highlights the hypocrisy, and fear-of-truth, that possesses that ghoulish entity known as a liberal.

21 posted on 07/09/2003 6:39:40 PM PDT by jla
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To: pawdoggie
"And why, in the name of all that's Holy, did she have to defend a loud-mouthed alcoholic like McCarthy?"

Because for all his personal flaws, he was dead on correct.
22 posted on 07/09/2003 6:51:07 PM PDT by Abogado
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To: annyokie; hoosiermama
I love Horowitz, too, but at least some of his comments are way off base, directly contradictable from the text of Treason.

hoosiermama summed up Ann and Treason as well as I've seen it done, and I quote her here:

Ann doesn't claim to be the "utmost authority". She's a polemicist, who researches her wisecracks! She's a cartoon. Like Madonna, Dolly Parton, she is aware of her attributes and markets it. She's getting the message out to the less studious American.
23 posted on 07/09/2003 6:51:58 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
It's not acceptable that someone who wants to participate in intellectual discourse should be "a cartoon" who exaggerates wildly etc. That's exactly how Michael Moore describes himself (he says his work is comedy or parody, so it can't be held to scrutiny).
24 posted on 07/09/2003 6:56:45 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2
I don't have a problem with it. Sorry you don't like the hyperbole, but no one is listening to studious university professors. It keeps the Left off base. Their attack dogs are too busy trying to figure out what to do with Ann, and attacking her, to attack Bush, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. This is A Good Thing in my book.

Think of her as a Carville on our side. With more facts. Not to mention infinitely better looking.
25 posted on 07/09/2003 6:59:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: xm177e2
And by the way, her facts hold up well. Have you read the criticisms of Rabinowitz and Horowitz here?
26 posted on 07/09/2003 7:00:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
When she sticks to the facts, she is devastating. When she says things like "Liberals have a preternatural gift for striking a position on the side of treason" (on page one of the book!) she does more harm than good. When she holds up McCarthy as a great man, instead of showing how he was a flawed individual who latched himself on to a good, important cause, that's absurd. That's similar to leftists saying nice things about Castro, the reasoning behind it is the same--he's our guy, so we shouldn't criticize. (of course, Castro was much worse than McCarthy)
27 posted on 07/09/2003 7:03:42 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: ChadGore
Even a hint of the blacklist must never again be tolerated

Absence of blacklist does not guarantee absence of backlash.
28 posted on 07/09/2003 7:04:01 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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(and I should also say: she stuck to the facts in this article, I found it to be excellent)
29 posted on 07/09/2003 7:04:11 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: FreedomPoster; annyokie
My first reaction to TREASON was: "Boy, is Ann pushing some buttons!"

After reading Horowitz and Dorothy Rabinowitz's comments, I realized just how sacred the cows were that Ann exposed.
If I'm correct Horowitz family members were involved in the 'socialist movement' and many of the spies were Jewish. I believe that both Horwitz and Rabinowitz "reacted" to Ann's button pushing, much like a person in denial reacts to facts and truth. They became defensive.....Give them time to get use to reality and realize Ann was not attacking them.
30 posted on 07/09/2003 7:30:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
That is my feeling too. On page 101 of Treason, Ann says that, much to Roy Cohn's "annoyance and bewilderment...Jews opposed McCarthy by 82 to 3 percent."

Among the general public his approval rating was 63%.

Jules Rosenberg's alma mater, City College, was ground zero of the McCarthy investigation. The school was one of the intellectual centers of Jewish life in NYC. His hearings were seen as an attack. And still are. I guess.

31 posted on 07/09/2003 7:50:35 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: netmilsmom
I don't care if he read it or not. I just find it funny the neocons are starting to fight amongst their own. And all I can say it's about time. Coulter is shrill and annoying. Horowitz, well at least he's not quoting rote from National Review like most of the talking heads, that's one thing he's got going for him
32 posted on 07/09/2003 7:56:38 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Ichneumon; All
Factual analyses hurt, don't they? Preaching to the chior is SOOOOOOOOO much easier.

Go Dave and Go Dorothy. Reasoned disagreement, without hateful as homenim is my friend.
33 posted on 07/09/2003 7:57:28 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: ChadGore
Boxers speech was a real barfer! Made me so sick. Liberals are just nuts I tell you!
34 posted on 07/09/2003 7:59:04 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: DPB101
For Ann to say McCathy was right about communist in the government might be equivalent to someone saying Hitler was right about a particular matter. Hitler did many evil things, and was wrong in most but I'm sure we could find one item in his life that he was correct about.

Reaction of most people, but particularly someone with a Jewish background would be, "NO NEVER! How could you betray us!"
35 posted on 07/09/2003 8:03:14 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Read "Radical Son", my FRiend and learn about David Horowitz.

His parents were Communists, not Socialists, he was a Red Diaper Baby. He reacted to the murder of his friend by the Black Panthers (for whom he had raised many thousands of dollars to begin a school) by denouncing the "cause" that many of his fellow travelers still ebrace.

Read "Radical Son" and learn.
36 posted on 07/09/2003 8:05:35 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: annyokie
Go Dave and Go Dorothy. Reasoned disagreement, without hateful as homenim is my friend.

Why did Dorothy Rabinowitz claim Phillip Loeb was a victim of McCarthyism? He wasn't. Why did Horowitz claim Coulter did not credit Humphrey for being anticommunist. She did.

37 posted on 07/09/2003 8:12:51 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: annyokie
Reasoned disagreement, without hateful as homenim is my friend.

Geeeeezzzz, anny. You're no fun.

Liberals and dems have been shrieking loud enough to wake the dead for close to a century. Republicans and Conservatives have tried, reputedly, to reason calmly with them. This only causes libs and dems to shriek all the louder.

Personally, I enjoy a good diatribe coming from the Right. I spent many (too many) years being required by my politics to shout "AMEN BROTHER" every time one of the leftist loonies decided to spout off. Listening to them getting browbeaten by Coulter is great fun for reformed_democrat(s).

Not every book put out by Conservatives has to be a trial to read. Coulter's are downright fun.

38 posted on 07/09/2003 8:13:25 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: annyokie
Thanks for the title. WIll read. (Even more reason for him to be defensive.)
39 posted on 07/09/2003 8:14:16 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: xm177e2
Ann Coulter and Michael Moore have been compared before. And rightly ( no pun intended) so.
40 posted on 07/09/2003 8:15:44 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: Ichneumon
David don't lie. I have read all his works. He is footnoted and researched to the nth degree.
41 posted on 07/09/2003 8:17:43 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: DPB101
And what is up with Leon Botstein, the president of Bard? He is one of the few sane liberals left.

Speaking of sane liberals, what's Christopher Hitchens up to these days? I haven't seen anything of his posted around here in a long time.

42 posted on 07/09/2003 8:21:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: reformed_democrat
With all of Ann's fun there is a serious point. She just doesn't take herself too serious. I look forward to reading M. Stanton Evans tome ("the world's leading authority") on McCarthy. I will study it seriously.

However, Ann is a good afternoon read/laugh! And laugh I did. She can sure throw out the one liners. Some want to be serious about serious matters. Others deal with life with a "mash" type humor. My ability to laugh is equal to ability to cry.....do both well! I appreciate her humor.
43 posted on 07/09/2003 8:24:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: jla
She is unique, I've never seen anyone take such heat and keep her cool...
44 posted on 07/09/2003 8:26:46 PM PDT by Treasa
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To: hoosiermama
David Horowitz? He is the sweetest man. He is so contrite about his friend being murdered by the Black Panthers, it'll make you cry.
45 posted on 07/09/2003 8:28:45 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: DPB101
I was shocked to see how many of Julius Rosenberg's classmates at New York's City College signed up to be bolshevik espionage agents in his spy ring at Fort Momouth New Jersey!
46 posted on 07/09/2003 8:32:07 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: xm177e2
That's similar to leftists saying nice things about Castro, the reasoning behind it is the same--he's our guy, so we shouldn't criticize. (of course, Castro was much worse than McCarthy)

Castro WAS? Castro IS!
Yet leftists in America (Democrats) revere him today.
We all remember the WTO conference in Seattle back in November 1999 because of the anarchists who rioted in the streets. I remember it because Fidel Castro had been invited to attend. The ultra-liberal Seattle City Council was beside itself with celebrity worship anticipation, even preparing the red carpet for him (literally). President Clinton was already scheduled to attend, and the White House attempted to arrange a photo-op meeting of these two great world leaders if only.. if only... please God let it happen... if only Mr. Castro Sir would honor the WTO, Seattle, America and President Clinton with his august presence.
Alas, he declined the invitation, causing Seattle's leftist media and city council to nearly burst into tears at the empty spot in their agenda.
It is NOT a stretch of the imagination, it is NOT unfounded criticism, it is NOT irresponsible mean-spirited name-calling when Ann Coulter states that the Democrat Party sympathizes with communism over American patriotism. Let's ask Elian, shall we?

47 posted on 07/09/2003 8:39:20 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: hoosiermama
Rabinowitz is a big name on the far left. Victor Rabinowitz was a member of the National Lawyers Guild--a Soviet front. He was called to testify before McCarthy. So was Seymour Rabinowitz who worked at the FT. Monmouth Army Radar Lab

Many at that facilty were forced to work in the "Leper Colony" because they were suspected of spying (they had either gone to school with Julius Rosenberg or known Joel Barr and Al Sarant--spies who fled to the Soviet Union when the Rosenberg ring was cracked).

Over the decades, families and extended families have created mythologies about the evil McCarthy. That is the problem.

Dorothy Rabinowitz may not be related to the two men who testified. But she surely knows of them. Or of others. And she knows what their kids and their grandkids have been taught about McCarthy. The myth of innocent victims of a "witch-hunt" must be kept alive.

48 posted on 07/09/2003 8:43:26 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Yardstick
Funny you asked. Posted early this AM:

Obit For A Former Contrarian (A friend and protege turns on Christopher Hitchens) ^

49 posted on 07/09/2003 8:47:35 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: annyokie
I know horowiz's history.

I stand with Ann.
50 posted on 07/09/2003 8:48:26 PM PDT by sport
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