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U.N.: Nearly 1 Gun for Every American
AP ^ | 7/8/03 | EDITH M. LEDERER

Posted on 07/09/2003 5:23:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

UNITED NATIONS - The United States has by far the largest number of publicly owned firearms in the world and is approaching the point where there is one gun for every American, according to the Small Arms Survey 2003 released Tuesday.

But in surprise findings, the survey found that Europeans are more heavily armed than commonly believed while there are far fewer small arms in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and sub-Saharan Africa than previously estimated.

According to the independent survey, the crackdown on terrorism after Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States "had little effect on the size of the global stockpile of 639 million known small arms."

The survey said its estimate of the global value of small arms production remains unchanged at about $7.4 billion — with the United States and Russia accounting for more than 70 percent of production. The estimate of the legal small arms trade — $4 billion a year — also remains the same, with the European Union (news - web sites) dominating the international export market.

America is now estimated to have between 238 million and 276 million firearms, compared with some 250 million legally owned guns, or 84 for every 100 people recorded in a July 2001 survey.

"By any measure the United States is the most armed country in the world," it said. "With roughly 83 to 96 guns per 100 people, the United States is approaching a statistical level of one gun per person."

The country with the second-highest gun ownership is Yemen, with between 33 and 50 firearms per 100 people, followed by Finland with 39 per 100, the new survey said.

"Contrary to the common assumption that Europeans are virtually unarmed, the 15 countries of the European Union have an estimated 84 million firearms. Of that 67 million (80 percent) are in civilian hands," the survey said. With a total population of 375 million people, this amounts to 17.4 guns for every 100 people.

The survey of global small arms was released on the second day of a weeklong U.N. meeting reviewing progress toward implementing a U.N. program adopted two years ago to combat small arms trafficking. More than 30 researchers contributed to the project, which is coordinated at the Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva and financed by a dozen Western governments.

Peter Batchelor, the survey's project director, said at a news conference that there are still "disappointingly low levels of transparency" about the global arms trade, with only about 20 countries providing annual export reports. Sixty countries are known to be engaged in the legal trade.

"Based on our research, it's clear that the value and the volume of the legal international trade has appeared to decline since the 1990s. This has been led by a dramatic fall in the trade of military weapons, and also certain categories of civilian firearms," he said.

Batchelor said the illicit trade is believed to be worth about $1 billion, or 20 percent of the legal trade.

While small-scale smuggling across borders continues, "the large-scale deals that seemed to be very prominent in the last decade seem to have declined somewhat," he said.

New research is leading to an increasingly balanced, though still incomplete, picture of the distribution of small arms and light weapons, the survey said.

Although it is has been widely reported that Afghanistan has at least 10 million small arms, the survey said, "careful analysis places the total between 500,000 and 1.5 million weapons."

It also said there probably are no more than 30 million firearms among civilians, insurgents and governments of the 44 countries of sub-Saharan Africa.

"This is enough guns to perpetuate fighting in many countries and raise the danger of criminal violence in many others, but it is not enough to render the situation totally beyond hope," the survey said.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; afghanistan; bang; banglist; europeanunion; finland; gunownership; nato; peterbatchelor; secondamendment; un; yemen
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To: Centurion2000
Thanks for the hint.
Still remember my sore, bleeding thumb the first time I encountered one of these monsters. Hated it at first but learned to love the weapon.
61 posted on 07/09/2003 6:22:34 PM PDT by 76834
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To: Centurion2000
Great minds travel the same channels and all that.

The CMP has a good newsletter too. That .30-'06 has a bit more recoil than the .303 or .308, but it sure is a sweet rifle!

62 posted on 07/09/2003 6:23:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: dirtbiker
" looking at some nice 9mm's though.........."

Reminds me of a billboard some gov. sponsored group has posted in the ethinc areas of my city. "Pull a Nine, do the Time"
63 posted on 07/09/2003 6:23:36 PM PDT by Rebelbase (........The bartender yells, "hey get out of here, we don't serve breakfast!")
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To: 76834
Garands are available through the CMP program for under $500. Excellent/like new bolt actions can be had for under
$100, with most going for $150 up.

check out

And the BBT (big brown truck) brings them right to your hot
little hands.

Mausers and Moisins, invite one into your home and the next
thing you know, the whole family is living with you.
64 posted on 07/09/2003 6:23:48 PM PDT by tet68
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To: 76834
Oh, gosh, another sufferer from "M-1 Thumb".

I was warned, when my husband first went into the Army they were still drilling with those things.

65 posted on 07/09/2003 6:24:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
66 posted on 07/09/2003 6:25:29 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Mr. Mojo
More guns less crime!!!
67 posted on 07/09/2003 6:25:31 PM PDT by shootist
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To: AnAmericanMother
Like I said, "I am no spring chicken"

So old in fact that when I was going to high school they didnt teach history, didnt have any yet.........
68 posted on 07/09/2003 6:27:33 PM PDT by 76834
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To: jeremiah
Nope, not good. Not nearly enough. Everyone needs at least one sidearm and one rifle. And since there are serious attempts to make it difficult of impossible to buy them down the road, one of each of these should be stockpiled for each child one has or plans to have.
69 posted on 07/09/2003 6:28:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: jeremiah
the title said, "Nearly 1 Gun for Every American"

somewhere, somebody's slackin' up...
70 posted on 07/09/2003 6:28:43 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: 76834
You can be very well-armed with a .30-06. The 1903 Springfield and the M1 Garand are both chambered in .30-06. Get the Remington 700, it's a great gun. You should also be able to find a used '03 Springfield at any gun store, and Springfield Armory is reintroducing the M1 Garand on a limited basis (but it's procey: be prepared to pay $900 - $1,100).
71 posted on 07/09/2003 6:28:55 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Mr. Mojo
I wonder what the per person average is for registered freepers. Bet it's a lot higher than one :-) I've got 7 (and counting).
72 posted on 07/09/2003 6:30:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Centurion2000
Get a Springfield Armory M1 Garand.

General Patton said it was the greatest weapon of war ever made.

It is my favorite. Straightest shooting visually sighted rifle anywhere. Of course, I have others...

73 posted on 07/09/2003 6:30:11 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: 76834
You need something big. Get a 12 gauge and a rifle.

It's your duty to your country and your family!

74 posted on 07/09/2003 6:32:00 PM PDT by AAABEST
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I have alot of the off the wall stuff,308 norma mag,25-06,a 44/357.0ver 30 in all ,some good scatter guns and pistols too.We still shot must of our meat.
75 posted on 07/09/2003 6:37:50 PM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: All
Agreed, some folks out there are slackers. I like my mini 30 and my Winchester 12ga. and most especially the Ruger .357 single action, the only pistol I've been able to shoot accurately. I'm looking for more to keep the numbers up but I'm not so sure I'll put my resources to work to protect those who think personal safety is a function of government.
76 posted on 07/09/2003 6:38:39 PM PDT by realistic
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still shot must of our meat.

I envy you to a certain degree, I live in a semi-rural area, but not that rural. What area do you live in?

77 posted on 07/09/2003 6:44:33 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Humm, I'm obviously not keeping up with you folks :)

My circa 1890 side-by-side, M1 Carbine, and pair of .32 revolvers from my grandfather just isn't enough it seems.

Time to go shopping this weekend...
78 posted on 07/09/2003 6:46:15 PM PDT by superloser
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To: All
I would like to take this opportunity to urge everyone who owns arms to buy a good quality safe to keep them in.

A heavy duty 14 gun unit can be had from Wally world for around $300 on sale, just keep your eyes peeled.

I didn't for years, and lost all, ALL my family heirloom guns in a robbery. Now I have a safe, and infact will soon be buying another as I am running out of room.

Please don't let scum steal your heritage, keep it safe to pass on to your children, they may NEED it.
I doesn't hurt to keep them safe till then too.
79 posted on 07/09/2003 6:46:55 PM PDT by tet68
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To: AdamSelene235; blam; Travis McGee; Squantos; Dog Gone; section9; Nick Danger; RJayneJ; Howlin; ...
NOTE: It's not just guns.

Yes, we're well-armed, and we're going to stay that way, but we've also got planes and boats.

American civilians own more private aircraft than all non-U.S. airforce's in the world, combined. The UN NWO types might think that a few suicidal jihadists are a "potent force" with which to be reckoned, but they haven't seen anything compared to what enraged American civilians could do (not that we'll ever have to, mind you, as our military needs no such help from us).

And navies? Private American civilians own 20,000 **TIMES** more salt-water boats than the largest ocean-going navy. Americans are are also pretty good with GPS's, computers, and timers; and we can legally buy fertilizer at every feed store and diesel fuel at every marina. So for you UN types, you do the math. Of course, our military needs no such help, but our civilian backup is one of those nice-to-have luxuries that come as a perk to living in the free-est, richest, most powerful nation to ever grace this planet.

Messing with us is simply **NOT** a wise career move.

I mean sheesh, leave us alone and we'll trade with the rest of the world. We'll donate more Dollars to world charities than anyone else can muster on an absolute level, and we'll provide techincal aid and expertise.

Why mess with that? Why go picking a fight with the one nation that controls enough nuclear devices, chemical munitions, and biological weapons to wipe out entire continents at our whim?

Who thinks of such ridiculous notions as prodding us by hijacking our our airliners and crashing down our own civilian buildings? What can be wrought from such annoyances besides the eventual wholesale destruction of those who so attack us?

Technology. We went to the Moon more than 3 decades ago, and the rest of the world still can't match even that old feat. Only a dozen nations have even managed to build their own nukes, something that we did more than half a century ago. Stealth?!

Economy. The U.S. is it. We've gone from 23% of the world's GDP in 1983 to 30% today. We're only 4% of this planet's population, yet we have more wealth than 60% of other countries combined. We fund research and development on mere whims. We've got more money in money market funds than most entire nations will ever even see.

Military. The U.S. is it. No other combination of forces even comes close. The full might of the Soviet forces and technology at their peak saw two very different proofs of the superiority of American power in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Food. No one produces or exports as much food as does the U.S. Food and money are crucial to winning extended wars of attrition.

At the present time, there is simply no deficiency to be exploited by our enemies against us. Not economic. Not with food. Not militarily.

And here's the punchline:

Ever **IF** an enemy could get by all of the above, then they'd face the most armed civilian population in history.

We've got more guns (see this thread's lead article). We've also got more civilian planes and boats than any other nation has torpedoes and anti-aircraft missiles.

Put simply: military options against the U.S. are not feasible at this time in history.

80 posted on 07/09/2003 6:47:11 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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