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Gary Kassel, 56, of Syracuse, was unloading the .40-caliber Glock and didn't realize there was still a round in the chamber when he pointed the gun at the cement floor and pulled the trigger "to render the gun safe," deputies said. A bullet ricocheted off the floor and struck Sacco.

Um, I must have have been daydreaming during that part of my firearm safety course. I sure don't remember being taught that!

1 posted on 07/10/2003 4:04:59 AM PDT by jalisco555
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2 posted on 07/10/2003 4:06:45 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: jalisco555
Gary Kassel, 56, of Syracuse was where he needed to be. In a class for dumbazzes.
3 posted on 07/10/2003 4:17:03 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (If I can support FR with two kids in college, you can too. Freedom aint free but you can charge it.)
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To: jalisco555
I thought everyone passed those safety classes. Guess I was wrong.
4 posted on 07/10/2003 4:19:03 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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I can not help but think , that maybe, that if the gun safety teacher had been a better teacher, that would not of happened.

When I took my Gun Safety Class and went to the firing range to fire the pistol , for the shooting test, I was suprised to see that the board across the range that you rest your gun on had bullet holes in it, were guns accidentally went off.

The Gun teacher was negligent, in having a bullet in that gun or any gun in that room, he should of had all of his guns empty before, any new student walked into that class.

5 posted on 07/10/2003 4:24:20 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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But of course it is a quick method of removing whatever is up the spout and following the procedure you have an empty, and therefor safem, firearm.

It is the transitional events that are problematic.

6 posted on 07/10/2003 4:35:22 AM PDT by Clive
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Gary Kassel, 56, of Syracuse, was unloading the .40-caliber Glock and didn't realize there was still a round in the chamber when he pointed the gun at the cement floor and pulled the trigger "to render the gun safe," deputies said.

The correct unloading sequence is to take the magazine out, then pull the slide back to eject a round that might be in the chamber, then look in the chamber to make sure it's empty, Cominolli said. The trigger shouldn't be pulled at all when unloading, he said.

Thatsssss riiiiight.....at least he had the weapon pointed in the right direction...unfortunately the right direction was made of cement.......

7 posted on 07/10/2003 5:12:33 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: *bang_list

8 posted on 07/10/2003 5:14:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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To: jalisco555
The glock struck one.....

Hickory Dickory Dock
10 posted on 07/10/2003 5:28:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Left is opposite of right)
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I keep telling non-believers; A Glock will fire EVERY time you pull the trigger ;)
11 posted on 07/10/2003 5:32:16 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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there was still a round in the chamber

NRA rules are VERY specific and emphatic regarding the prohibition of live ammunition in the training area. This guy was IN HIS HOUSE, not at the range, teaching what was probably basic operating principles.

Substituting live ammo for snap cap/dummy training ammo in a classroom environment is exceptionally foolish.

13 posted on 07/10/2003 5:36:52 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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Ruger has had a de-cocking mechanism that blocks the firing pin before releasing the hammer. Just use the darned thing and this type of incident will never happen to you.
17 posted on 07/10/2003 5:57:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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Internal hammer + no decocking lever + dumbass = BOOM!
20 posted on 07/10/2003 6:36:09 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (My mind is aglow whirling with transient nodes of thought careening thru a cosmic vapor of invention)
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The correct unloading sequence is to take the magazine out, then pull the slide back to eject a round that might be in the chamber, then look in the chamber to make sure it's empty...

That last part is the critical one. It doesn't matter how badly you screw up the order; if you look inside and you see a shiny brass thingee, it ain't unloaded!

Of course, that applies to any make. It's not just a Glock thing.

23 posted on 07/10/2003 6:45:44 AM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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note to self:

first, TALK.
THEN hang up.
(in that order...)

24 posted on 07/10/2003 6:48:32 AM PDT by dogbrain
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To: jalisco555
I've never even touched a gun in my life and even I know that an semi-automatic handgun isn't unloaded until you take the round out of the chamber.
26 posted on 07/10/2003 7:02:25 AM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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Bang - I mean ping!
30 posted on 07/10/2003 7:12:21 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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Perhaps this guy should have stuck with teaching students how to defend themselves against fresh fruit...and pointed sticks.
32 posted on 07/10/2003 7:19:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jalisco555
bump
33 posted on 07/10/2003 7:20:54 AM PDT by Jason_b
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Violated Cooper's Rules #1, 2, AND 3.
37 posted on 07/10/2003 7:45:59 AM PDT by Ed Straker
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"He screwed the procedure up," said Cominolli, who designed and patented a manual safety device that can be added to Glocks. He based his opinion about Sacco's shooting on the description given by deputies. "It's a typical screw-up with the gun."

I don't like Glocks but this had nothing to do with the design of that specific design. The quote is also from an "inventor" who seems to be pushing his product.

I have seen IDPA members reverse the order of clearing a semi-suto which shocked the heck out of me. That's one of the reasons I don't believe in pulling the trigger as the last "test" whether it loaded or not.

38 posted on 07/10/2003 8:01:18 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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