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John Edwards, Erskine Bowles Are Mum [After NC Senate Meeting]
Charlotte News and Observer ^ | Thursday July 10, 2003 | John Wagner and Rob Christenson

Posted on 07/10/2003 6:59:42 AM PDT by ewing

US Senator [and 2004 Democratic Presidential Candidate] John Edwards met behind closed doors Wednesday with Erskine Bowles, a Democrat very interested in pursing his Senate seat if Edwards continues running for President of the United States.

Both emerged from their meeting in Raleigh tight lipped about their political futures.

'What they discussed is private between them,' said Jennifer Palmieri, Edwards Presidential Campaign Press Secretary.

Neither Edwards or Bowles, who ran unsuccessfully for the Senate last year, would comment directly.

While Edwards could legally appear on the ballot for both offices in 2004, most political observers believe that scenario is unlikely.

He [Sen. Edwards] is under increasing pressure from Democrats in North Carolina to make a choice so that the Party's Senate nominee will have enouogh time to raise money and mount a credible campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; bowles; edwards; edwardswatch; meeting; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; senate; unhelpful
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Bowles will lose huge to anyone, this is good news..
1 posted on 07/10/2003 6:59:42 AM PDT by ewing
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To: ewing
There up to something.......shades of New Jersey and Minnesota.
2 posted on 07/10/2003 7:00:51 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: ewing; *Edwards Watch
Hmmmm.

Indexing to Edwards Watch...

3 posted on 07/10/2003 7:01:42 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: All
http://newsobserver.com/news/nc/story/2682529p-2487141c.html
4 posted on 07/10/2003 7:02:33 AM PDT by ewing
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To: cardinal4
Edwards resign and have Bowles appointed to succeed him and have Bowles run as an incumbent in the 2004 election? Bowles would still lose to Burr and the black Democrats in NC would be even more pissed than they were last year.
5 posted on 07/10/2003 7:03:06 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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6 posted on 07/10/2003 7:03:53 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: cardinal4
What would Edwards get as insurance from the party if he loses the nomination-a VP slot perhaps??
7 posted on 07/10/2003 7:04:08 AM PDT by ewing
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I still don't see the payoff for Edwards losing his Senate seat from the DNC.

Could Bowles be telling Edwards that he is running?

8 posted on 07/10/2003 7:05:46 AM PDT by ewing
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To: All
FULL article:


Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:00AM EDT  UNDER THE DOME


Edwards, Bowles are mum

By JOHN WAGNER AND ROB CHRISTENSEN, Staff Writers

U.S. Sen. John Edwards met behind closed doors Wednesday with Erskine Bowles, a Democrat very interested in pursuing his Senate seat if Edwards continues running for president.

Both emerged from their meeting in Raleigh tight-lipped about their political futures.

"What they discussed is private between them," said Jennifer Palmieri, Edwards' presidential campaign press secretary .

Neither Edwards nor Bowles, who ran unsuccessfully for Senate last year, would comment directly.

While Edwards could legally appear on the ballot for both offices in 2004, most political observers believe that scenario is unlikely.

He is under increasing pressure from Democrats in North Carolina to make a choice so that the party's Senate nominee will have enough time to raise money and mount a credible campaign.

At a minimum, some Democrats would like to see Edwards follow the lead of U.S. Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, a 2004 rival whose Senate seat is also on the ballot next year.

Graham gave his blessing to other Democrats to start running in early May, shortly after officially announcing his White House candidacy. But Graham made no guarantees he won't ultimately get back in the race.

Publicly, Edwards has put no timetable on his Senate decision.

Palmieri said Wednesday that she had "nothing to add to what he has said previously." She said Edwards has no immediate plans to meet with other Democrats who might be interested.

Former state House Speaker Dan Blue, who lost to Bowles in last year's Democratic primary, said Wednesday that he thinks Edwards has some time to make a decision.

"John ought to have the right to explore his run for president through the summer," Blue said. "He's clearly running for president. [But] he has a right to decide whether he is going to change his mind at some point and run for the Senate."

Bush taps N.C. team

President Bush has begun assembling his North Carolina re-election team as his wife prepares to begin fund raising here.

Sen. Elizabeth Dole of Salisbury will serve as overall state chairman for the Bush campaign.

Jim Culbertson, a Winston-Salem businessman, will be state finance chairman. He was a key fund-raiser for Bush in 2000 and was Dole's finance chair last year.

The state finance co-chair will be Dr. Aldona Wos of Greensboro, a Polish-born physician and civic leader who no longer practices medicine.

Finance vice chairs will raise money in various regions in the state for the Bush campaign.

They are Raleigh attorney Jim Cain; Ferrel Blount of Pitt County; Dave Phillips of High Point, a former commerce secretary under Democratic Gov. Jim Hunt; and state Rep. Ed McMahan of Charlotte.

Cain, the former president of the Carolina Hurricanes who briefly considered running for governor next year, is leading the effort for first lady Laura Bush's fund-raiser on July 18.

The $1,000-per person luncheon will be held at the West Raleigh home of businessman Mark Kehaya and his wife, Hannah.

The Bush campaign hopes to raise $200,000 to $250,000 at the event. That will be smaller than other fund-raisers she has recently attended.

After the Raleigh event, Laura Bush plans to go on a backpacking trip with several friends at an undisclosed location, according to The New York Times.

9 posted on 07/10/2003 7:05:56 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; ...
NC ping!
Please FRmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
10 posted on 07/10/2003 7:07:34 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: GraniteStateConservative
If NC has been overrun by northern immigrants from NJ, NY, PA, MD, OH, etc, what makes you think that NC won't go Democrat for senator again, regardless of the candidate? Is there evidence that conservatism is growing or shrinking in NC? Bowles did fairly well in 2002, which turned out to be a bad year for clintoids, though Bill Richardson won handily in liberal NM.
11 posted on 07/10/2003 7:08:00 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ewing
A good bet. But Edwards oozes slime, if you ask me. I dont think he'll ever get elected president, but putting him in as VP would only hurt the one running. Clinton- Edwards? Dean- Edwards? Kerry- Edwards? All three of those scenarios go together like Abbot and Costello.
12 posted on 07/10/2003 7:12:59 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Constitution Day
What do you hear about possible Republican candidates for Edwards' seat?
13 posted on 07/10/2003 7:14:31 AM PDT by wimpycat (I'm an expert at being annoying. I'm a kid sister.)
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To: ewing
Sadly, I think my home state has been overrun with Northern liberals. Can a true conservative be elected to a statewide office there anymore?
14 posted on 07/10/2003 7:17:21 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: Constitution Day
Thanks for adding the entire column.

Whatever Bowles and Edwards discussed behind closed doors, you better believe the elephant also in the room, was named "Clinton".

Bowles will always be loyal to the Clintons first and foremost, and Edwards may have secret longings to be the VP southern balancing act on Hillary's presidential run, come 2008.

15 posted on 07/10/2003 7:17:47 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: wimpycat
Right now the favorite is Congressman Richard Burr.
I attended a sort of pre-campaign event in Greenville back in April and was very impressed with him!
16 posted on 07/10/2003 7:21:09 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: cardinal4
The Dims would be crazy not to take Gen. Wes Clark as VP if he doesnt win the nomination.

He is the only candidate who can close their leadership gap on national security..

17 posted on 07/10/2003 7:22:58 AM PDT by ewing
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To: ewing
He is the only candidate who can close their leadership gap on national security..

Clark is a boob. Remember when the reorter asked him a question and he got his cell phone out and called CNN and asked if he could answer it? That kind of shakiness is just not presidential. Plus I believe that the stain of the Clintons, pun intended, works against Dims these days..

18 posted on 07/10/2003 7:26:53 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: YaYa123
Thanks for adding the entire column.

You're welcome.
The N&O requires registration to see old articles and I knew if I didn't, this article would be partially lost in coming days.

You better believe that Clinton's presence was felt there!
Irksome Bowels is a Clintonista buttboy first and foremost.
As to Edwards, I think he must realize he doesn't have the poll #s to make it as a viable candidate and is shooting for the VP slot.

19 posted on 07/10/2003 7:36:13 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: cardinal4
Edwards does not show well and he's down in the polls. However, the reason he concerns me is that the Clintons back him. I assume that means he's easily controlled by them. Mysterious things happen when the clintons are involved in the political scene. I think Graham is more likely to be named as a VP because he's from FL and he's therefore needed to win that state. I'm not sure what the deal here is with Edwards, but I don't like it.
20 posted on 07/10/2003 7:40:43 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
Maybe the Clintons are pushing him and he has agreed in exchange to put Hillary on as VP, a stupid move because his, umm, health, would not last long. This guy needs to be soundly defeated. He's too close to the Clintons.
21 posted on 07/10/2003 7:44:16 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Theodore R.
If NC has been overrun by northern immigrants from NJ, NY, PA, MD, OH, etc,

Hey! That's me you're talking about.

what makes you think that NC won't go Democrat for senator again, regardless of the candidate?

The GOP HAS won 75% of senate races since Jesse Helms started out.

Is there evidence that conservatism is growing or shrinking in NC?

Hard to say, conservatism is probably shrinking a little, but Republicanism is still growing. Still LOTS of conservative Dems.

Bowles did fairly well in 2002

His loss was the most lopsided senate contest in NC since -- well, I don't know, a long time. He got more votes than Edwards in #s but only 45%. He even lost his native Mecklenburg County (Charlotte & friends). That being said, he ran fairly well and was cursed with a late primary. He'll have less establishment/money support this year, though, as a couple key supporters have switched over to Burr.

Richard Burr may even be unopposed in the primary; he's a consensus candidate, and a wicked good one. A conservative who smiles pretty for the soccer moms.

22 posted on 07/10/2003 7:46:55 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: cardinal4
Ofc ourse the Dims are grasping for straws at VP..at least Gen. Clark would be better than Hillary!
23 posted on 07/10/2003 7:48:11 AM PDT by ewing
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To: twigs
I'm not sure what the deal here is with Edwards, but I don't like it.

I'd bet he's angling to be Attorney General. Oh, wait a minute. Schmuckie Schumer already has that postition locked up!

24 posted on 07/10/2003 7:48:36 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Constitution Day
Inexplicable, a gust of wind and other tragic things:

Edwards has refused to discuss his 16-year-old son, Wade, who was killed in a car accident in 1996. "It's just something that's just personal to him," says Edwards's campaign spokeswoman, Jennifer Palmieri. "He will never discuss it in a political context."..http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A7292-2003Jun17&notFound=true

WADR (With all due respect)

25 posted on 07/10/2003 7:51:02 AM PDT by Helms
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To: JohnnyZ
As a native Carolinian, I'd say "welcome", but you're not. That aside, the least irksome Yankees we have invading our fair country are a strange, numerous mob of conservative Massachusetts-Americans, who're running from the socialist heaven their countrymen have established up there. Regardless, Deo Vindice, and we'll take our state back after the republic falls.
26 posted on 07/10/2003 8:34:24 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: JohnnyZ
Oh, and Edwards may be vile, but he's no worse than the rest of those scallawags the Federal system has hoisted on us since the First War ended. May he go away soon, and Jessie Helms be rejuvenated.
27 posted on 07/10/2003 8:36:02 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: ewing
He wears the Scarlet L

Left wing, lawyer, loser

Leaver?

28 posted on 07/10/2003 8:36:51 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: bert
That's a great pic! L for big losah..
29 posted on 07/10/2003 8:37:40 AM PDT by ewing
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To: warchild9
As a native Carolinian, I'd say "welcome", but you're not.

Psycho. :)

30 posted on 07/10/2003 8:39:35 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: JohnnyZ
Yankee. Need I say more?
31 posted on 07/10/2003 8:40:20 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Theodore R.
" Is there evidence that conservatism is growing or shrinking in NC?"

My experience in a 14 county territory within the middle of the state has been that outside of the metropolitan areas, Edwards is mocked by the conservative democrats that comprise a large population.

The die hard liberals that make up the city cores, academic areas and lower income neighborhoods are the ones who are yellow dog democrats.
32 posted on 07/10/2003 9:16:27 AM PDT by Rebelbase (........The bartender yells, "hey get out of here, we don't serve breakfast!")
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To: warchild9
Its still ok to call them carpetbaggers.
33 posted on 07/10/2003 9:17:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase (........The bartender yells, "hey get out of here, we don't serve breakfast!")
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To: cardinal4
Don't forget that Edwards has bought a new 3+million house in Georgetown, that is now undergoing extensive (expensive) renovations. He's planning on living in DC, come hell or high water.
34 posted on 07/10/2003 9:24:36 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Rebelbase
I believe "scalawag" refers specifically to a Southerner who has sold out to Northern imperial interests. A "carpetbagger" is one of those interests, if I'm not incorrect.
35 posted on 07/10/2003 9:39:22 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Rebelbase; warchild9
Its still ok to call them carpetbaggers.

Yes! Yes! We are your masters you miserable hicks!

ROFLMAO!

36 posted on 07/10/2003 9:41:18 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: JohnnyZ
Actually, you Yankees are mere irritants. And your fascetious conescension points out what I hate the most about John Edwards--the condescension just oozes out of that man. Since you're not from around here, I'll just point out that's the natural state of a Duke Law graduate.
37 posted on 07/10/2003 9:45:00 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Rebelbase
Oh, and foreigners like JohnnyZ aren't "carpetbaggers", they are colonists who couldn't make it in their own country, like the millions of Mexican peasants who're overrunning us.
38 posted on 07/10/2003 9:47:12 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
I'll just point out that's the natural state of a Duke Law graduate.

What . . . condensation? LOL!

BTW, you don't even know how to spell it; it's D-O-O-K.

I highly doubt you're a native Carolinian. Maybe South Carolina. Maybe a Carolingian, if you know what that is (but, as John Kerry would say, "you probably don't even speak French").

39 posted on 07/10/2003 9:51:03 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: warchild9
I've got news for you -- with or without "Yankees," NC is an embarrassment.

We've got an 8% income tax, and a bunch of good ol' boy Democrats in Raleigh who love to spend, spend, spend. The entire state legislature is completely controlled by them.

What we need is MORE transplants coming here, and hopefully we can get rid of the "lifers" in Raleigh who have turned NC into the highest taxed state in the southeast.
40 posted on 07/10/2003 9:52:29 AM PDT by gonewt
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To: gonewt
North Carolina suffers all these conditions because the Yankees are USED to high taxes and regulation, and the state legislature realizes just how very much they'll put up with. Natives are rendered passive with sports and television, and the politicians--of both parties--run them ragged.
41 posted on 07/10/2003 9:54:40 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: JohnnyZ
Sir, among my four college degrees is a degree in history, and I consider myself more of a Merovingian (they were a bit more rebellious). And I was born in Elizabeth City, a fine Southern city on the ocean, and not some Yankee pest-breeding center. And I apologize to all New Yorkers, since I really, really enjoyed my years in that great city.
42 posted on 07/10/2003 9:57:48 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Howlin
fyi.........
43 posted on 07/10/2003 9:58:48 AM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: warchild9
Your argument doesn't fly, warchild.

Florida has TONS more "Yankee" transplants as NC, yet they have ZERO state income tax. None. Nada.
44 posted on 07/10/2003 10:05:59 AM PDT by gonewt
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To: warchild9
And I apologize to all New Yorkers, since I really, really enjoyed my years in that great city.

LOL! Yankee wannabe! Yankee wannabe! I'll bet Jeff Gordon is your favorite NASCAR driver.

Oh, this is too rich . . .

as for the Merovingians: the original French rednecks! also slaveowners

45 posted on 07/10/2003 10:09:19 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: gonewt
That's because the Yankees are senile and the Southerners are politically active. And the Cubans help keep the politicians honest (they know from socialism). And I'm not "arguing." Yankees don't belong here. They need to go back home and clean up their own nests before soiling mine.
46 posted on 07/10/2003 10:09:28 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: JohnnyZ
NASCAR is for boobs and New York is truly the city of books. I returned home with a collection in excess of 5,000, and would have collected more had the Mrs. allowed it. I never had so much fun until I lived in New York.
Also, sir, I am half-Yankee--my mother was born in Illinois, though HER mother was born in Denmark. I trace my paternal lineage into Kentucky before that fine state was a state.
You're still a Yankee, and have to live with it. My condolences.
47 posted on 07/10/2003 10:24:03 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: JohnnyZ
Oh, and I'm French/Swedish on my daddy's side. Hence, the Merovingian...though that culture wasn't strong in Lorraine, where his really, really way back ancestors are from.
48 posted on 07/10/2003 10:26:19 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
NASCAR is for boobs

LOL! You're way behind. Hooters isn't sponsoring a car any more.

49 posted on 07/10/2003 10:43:31 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: JohnnyZ
I think Jessie Jackson is, though, by an assumed name.
50 posted on 07/10/2003 10:47:28 AM PDT by warchild9
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