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Europe Grows Hostage to its Muslims
Newsmax ^ | July 10, 2003 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 07/10/2003 7:12:57 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Douglas
Tancredo para Presidente!

http://www.house.gov/tancredo/
21 posted on 07/10/2003 8:21:34 PM PDT by wolficatZ
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To: Nachum
Liberals made it the ultimate sin to protect's one's country and traditions. If you talk about protecting your culture and values, you are branded as a nazi even if it means protecting it from foreign invaders who wish to replace your traditions entirely. Only by cheerfully accepting the genocide of Western Civilization is one considered tolerant and broad minded. How this state of affairs came to be should be carefully scrutinized.
22 posted on 07/10/2003 8:25:20 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Nachum
"It seems that the answer to the 'Islamist problem' is a dialogue between a new and reform-minded breed of Muslim scholars"

It seems that a better answer is to halt Muslim immigration--and to keep in mind that the declared intention of Islam is the establishment of a world-wide Muslim theocracy with the Koran as the only constitution and the shariah as international law.

If Europeans lack the will to survive, they deserve what they get.

"History is not just cruel. It is witty."
~Charles Krauthammer

23 posted on 07/10/2003 8:28:49 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first deprive of their senses." ~Euripides)
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To: Nachum
Bump
26 posted on 07/10/2003 8:48:16 PM PDT by Live free or die
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To: Savage Beast
It seems that a better answer is to halt Muslim immigration--

You got that right. Unfortunately we're trying hard to catch up to the Europeans' self-destruction. Some 70,000 to 100,000 muslims are allowed to legally, permanently immigrate to the USA every year.

27 posted on 07/10/2003 8:52:23 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Million American March Sept 6, 2003 Lafayette Park, Washington, D.C.)
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To: Nachum
In that country's north a man known to Muslims as a sex fiend recently showed up with a hand missing.
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Italian doctors report treating Muslim women who had evidently been lashed.
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70,000 young women, chiefly Muslim, are being subjected to forced marriages every year
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35,000 girls are either circumcised or under threat of circumcision
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That's some "religion of peace" they got there.

I don't get it. How can the Left howl on and on about the Inquisition whenever they bash Christians, yet they remain utterly silent about its 21st century Muslim equivalent?

Oh...now I remember...both groups have a common enemy: the United States of America.

-Jay

28 posted on 07/10/2003 8:55:34 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Threaten me? That's life. Threaten my loved ones? That's death.)
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To: seamole
Are you implying that the French will cave in on any issue if their opponent is vociferous and threatening? Or that they will sweep any issue under a hastily-wove bureaucratic rug? I fail to see how they do any good for their country by these actions.
What do I know? I'm only a stupid Huguenot.
29 posted on 07/10/2003 8:55:58 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Just the Quoran does not an education make. Terrorists it makes too well.)
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To: Nachum
Western Europe (and, unfortunately, the United States as well) still fools itself that Muslims are immigrating intending to learn European ways. Not exactly. A large number are colonizing.
30 posted on 07/10/2003 8:56:20 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: dagnabbit
Just as Christ admonished his disciples to evangelize the world...so too did the followers of Islam seek to convert others. Of course they did this for about a thousand years in a manner marketly different from the Apotle Paul and his group. Jihad literally means "struggle" rather than the popularized Holy War but they mean exactly the same thing when used as invective to agitate the masses into violence. From it's inception, Islam used extreme violence to spread across Africa. When the armies of Mohammed swept into those African Kingdoms with their polytheistic belief systems and said "convert or DIE" it was a pretty simple choice. Indeed, it was simple even to others all over the place. Islamic armies marched halfway across Spain.

The point I'm trying to make is that parroting the popular mantra that it's really a faith of "peace" and that it's been hijacked by extremists is a crock and has been thus since the beginning. The religion has insinuated itself into the very fabric of American life. In the text book I use when I teach world history...Islam occupies a total of FOUR chapters. Christianity and Hinduism and Buddhism and all the rest....take up a portion of one chapter...the same one for all of them. My peers who teach this are mostly liberals who embrace the tripe..but for those of us who know the reality, it's still very difficult to communicate that in a liberal school system without being immediately and terminally (to the career) being branded a racist. I usually deal with this by glossing over the four chapters and having lots of class discussions which leads the kids to form their own conclusions. Most of them get it right, but some don't.

Underrating this stuff is going to prove deadly unless we take action soon. This is the overriding threat to freedom in the world today. I am very much afraid that no matter what we do, no matter how well we negotiate, no matter what...this is going to come to a winner take all confrontation in a global sense. I could see this coming down to that "final" battle as foretold in the Bible.

32 posted on 07/10/2003 9:30:17 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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33 posted on 07/11/2003 5:40:32 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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34 posted on 07/11/2003 5:44:38 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Nachum
The tribe with the most babies wins....
35 posted on 07/11/2003 5:51:52 AM PDT by thinking
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To: seamole
To be quite honest, I'm not sure I'd have a problem with Mexican culture replacing secular emptiness as the dominant culture in the suburban Northeast. If the movies are to be believed, I'd have a better accent, there would be less pressure to lose weight, the food would be spicier, the women fiestier, and every time I step onto the street, someone would strum a riff on a Spanish guitar.

There are good aspects to Mexican culture. We have many employees of Mexican descent who are hard workers and good people. Many of my near neighbors are of Mexican descent, and they're great neighbors. Friendly, outgoing, helpful, well, you name it, you could ask for little more.

Unfortunately the current invasion includes some real scumbags as well. All over Houston neighborhoods you see stolen shopping carts. In many stores it's so bad they install wheels that are supposed to lock up when the cart goes outside the parking lot. 99% of the stolen carts are taken by "hispanic" people. You don't see blacks, whites or asians with them.

The scumbags have no respect for property whatsoever, what's theirs is theirs, and what's yours is theirs.

We're getting some of the dregs of Mexican culture, not just the cream, as it would be if we had reasonable immigration controls.

36 posted on 07/11/2003 6:16:57 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Douglas
Good points Douglas and unfortunately it seems the Bush is weak on this is to court the Hispanic voter. I can't think of another good reason to allow such a porous border. Of course, big business puts on the pressure too so they can have abundant cheap labor. We have a lot of Tyson and Pilgrims Pride chicken plants around here in East Texas and Western Arkansas and not surprisingly they hire many immigrants.
37 posted on 07/11/2003 1:17:07 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: seamole
I'm in Texas so we have a long history of fighting AND living with the Mexicans. They're terrific people and hard workers and I welcome controlled immigration here but it's out of control.

If you have to be invaded and taken over by somebody I guess the Mexicans are as good as anybody but if I wanted the Mexican culture I'd move there. It doesn't have to be this way but I don't see anybody with the guts to step up and try to slow it down with the exception of Tancredo and a few others.
38 posted on 07/11/2003 2:34:19 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Nachum
Which will be the first European country to institure Sharia?
39 posted on 07/11/2003 4:26:37 PM PDT by Michael2001 (There goes my hero, he's ordinary)
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