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Judge: DPS can't track lawmakers (Runaway Texas Democrats)
Dallas Ft. Worth Star-Telegram ^
| July 11th, 2003
| Jay Root
Posted on 07/11/2003 10:07:57 AM PDT by Sabertooth
Judge: DPS can't track lawmakers
By Jay Root
Star-Telegram Austin Bureau
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| (Lon) BURNAM |
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| (Tom) CRADDICK |
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AUSTIN - If lawmakers boycott the Texas Legislature again to block redistricting or anything else, the state police would have no authority to hunt them down and bring them back, a state judge ruled Thursday.
The finding, which caught state leaders by surprise, was in response to a lawsuit filed in May by Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth. Burnam had sued the Texas Department of Public Safety to stop what he alleged was the illegal destruction of documents that had been gathered during the hunt for the quorum-busting Democrats, most of whom fled to Oklahoma, for four days in May.
State Judge Charles Campbell dismissed Burnam's underlying complaint, but agreed with his lawyers' contention that the DPS "lacks legal authority to track down and arrest" legislators who break a quorum.
"The reasoning behind these rulings is that section 411.002 of the Government Code defines, and therefore limits, the role of DPS to 'enforc[ing] the laws protecting the public safety and provid[ing] for the prevention and detection of crime.'"
House Speaker Tom Craddick, R-Midland, got the DPS involved in the May search-and-arrest mission by invoking House rules. The rules say that absent members can be "sent for and arrested" by the sergeant-at-arms or "an officer appointed by the sergeant-at-arms for that purpose."
But Campbell, a visiting judge who once served on the Court of Criminal Appeals as a Democrat, said the House rule is "unfounded because it is superseded by section 411.002." The ruling was in a letter issued Thursday, and Campbell instructed the lawyers to draw up an order reflecting his findings.
Burnam hailed the ruling as "major vindication." The DPS, as well as aides to Craddick and Republican Gov. Rick Perry declined to comment while they study the ruling. Attorney General Greg Abbott, a Republican, is considering an appeal.
"The court has ruled in favor of DPS on all issues related to document destruction and dismissed the case," Abbott spokeswoman Jane Sheppard said. "Interestingly, the court also ruled on an issue that was first raised the morning of the hearing and was not briefed or argued by the attorney general's office. We are considering an appeal on that issue."
In mid-May, more than 50 Democrats broke a quorum during a regularly scheduled session of the Legislature. With fewer than 100 members present, the House was unable to consider a congressional redistricting bill designed to increase GOP strength in Washington.
In response, House leaders issued a "call on the House," locking the doors and instructing the DPS to arrest absent members and bring them back until a quorum was reached. A massive dragnet ensued, eventually involving three DPS divisions, over 300 troopers and Texas Rangers, an obscure plane-hunting division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Aviation Administration.
The truant Democrats called themselves the "Killer Ds," modeling their boycott after a similarly named group of Democrats boycotted the Senate in 1979. Those "Killer Bees" had also invited the wrath of the DPS after protesting a bill designed to shore up conservative Democrats and the presidential candidacy of the Republican John Connally.
In each incident, the quorum-busters successfully killed the legislation they wanted dead. But in the case of redistricting, Perry has called the Legislature back into special session, and the GOP-controlled House has already approved a bill that would produce up to six new Republican congressional seats.
"If this ruling had come out two weeks ago, we might have gone to Ardmore again," Burnam said. "It's major vindication as far as I'm concerned."
Burnam's lawyer, Art Brender, chairman of the Tarrant County Democratic Party, said the ruling could have a tremendous impact on the redistricting debate in the Senate.
Specifically, several on-the-fence state senators have expressed concern that they could join the 21-vote supermajority required in that chamber to bring up a redistricting bill -- only to have a bill they firmly oppose come back from a joint House-Senate conference committee. In that case, only a majority is needed, and Republicans control the chamber, 19-12.
If that happens, breaking a quorum would probably be the only tool that opponents have to kill the bill.
"There could well be another quorum situation, but you wouldn't have to go to Ardmore," Brender said. "You could just stay in Muleshoe or El Paso or Beaumont or wherever."
Republican Party spokesman Ted Royer said the political costs of another walkout would be too high.
"I think the Democrats learned their lesson from the last walkout, with the tremendous amount of outrage expressed by the people of Texas, and they would be foolhardy to try it again," he said.
One of the Killer Bees from the Senate class of 1979, U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Austin, said that restraining police from political involvement is important, nevertheless.
"The judge is certainly correct to draw a firm line separating law enforcement from politics," Doggett said. "This case has shed some light on the political abuse of Texas officers. In Washington, we are still trying to determine how pervasive was the abuse of the federal police power."
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:09:57 AM PDT
by
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To: Sabertooth
It is about time to start, impeaching Judges that is!
But we have got to clean out the Demonic legislators who have stacked the judicial branch with their own!
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:19:10 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
To: Sabertooth
Now, now. I know we don't like it, but the ruling appears to be correct based on the actual content of the law.
To: Sabertooth
6
posted on
07/11/2003 10:20:45 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: Sabertooth
So the good citizens of Texas will just have to saddle up and ride herd on these dogies.
7
posted on
07/11/2003 10:22:22 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Sabertooth
Am I correct in assuming this is a RAT judge?
8
posted on
07/11/2003 10:22:58 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
To: Sabertooth
"This won't stop until our politicians start impeaching judges."At which point the judiciary will simply rule the impeachments invalid. If a state (or the federal) supreme court wants to become a rogue gang of authoritarian oligarchs, there's no mechanism under our current system that can to stop it. I'm just amazed it took the Democrats this long to realize it, but clearly they've figured the game out now.
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:23:00 AM PDT
by
Fabozz
To: Sabertooth
Looks like the Sargeant at Arms will have to round up some vigilantes to form a Posse!! Any volunteers from our band of Lone Star Freepers?
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posted on
07/11/2003 10:28:33 AM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(Free Miguel and Priscilla!)
To: Sabertooth
this judge needs to re-read the State Constitution which gives the legislature 'unlimited' power to bring in folks who run away to avoid a quorum. The Constitution is very explicit on this issue.
To: Sabertooth
But Campbell, a visiting judge who once served on the Court of Criminal Appeals as a Democrat,....There you go - - the judge is a corrupt scumbag.
To: So Cal Rocket; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Alkhin; Allegra; alnick; American72; antivenom; ...
Looks like the Sargeant at Arms will have to round up some vigilantes to form a Posse!! Any volunteers from our band of Lone Star Freepers? Badges? We don't need no stikin' badges!
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:14:31 AM PDT
by
Flyer
(Ask me about my Golden Retriever!)
To: Flyer
We don't need no stikin' badges! We also don't need no stinkin' badges!
14
posted on
07/11/2003 11:15:50 AM PDT
by
Flyer
(Ask me about my Golden Retriever!)
To: So Cal Rocket; Flyer
I am so THERE.
15
posted on
07/11/2003 11:20:23 AM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: catherine of alexandria
Despicable!
To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
To: Xenalyte
Have gun, will travel.
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:27:45 AM PDT
by
wysiwyg
(What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
To: Fabozz
If a state (or the federal) supreme court wants to become a rogue gang of authoritarian oligarchs, there's no mechanism under our current system that can to stop it. I'm just amazed it took the Democrats this long to realize it, but clearly they've figured the game out now. Deserves repeating. I'm so sick at how unequal the 3rd branch of government is becoming. Unchecked power.
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:36:01 AM PDT
by
NYS_Eric
To: Texas_Jarhead
...the State Constitution which gives the legislature 'unlimited' power to bring in folks who run away to avoid a quorum. I just performed a search of the Texas Constitution for the word "unlimited." It does not appear anywhere in the document. Can you provide a source for your assertion?
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:39:25 AM PDT
by
TigerTale
(From the streets of Tehran to the Gulf of Oman, let freedom ring.)
To: Sabertooth
A legal right to refuse to serve the people who elected you.
I'm crying at irony of that.
Perhaps Gray Davis should try that trick!
To: Fabozz
Except for the Second Amendment. Judges of the Ninth Circuit said as much in their dissents in the Silveira and Nordyke cases.
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:43:48 AM PDT
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Sabertooth
So next time, the sergeant-at-arms simply issues the all-points-bulletin to each and every local police department.
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posted on
07/11/2003 11:50:45 AM PDT
by
steveegg
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To: Sabertooth
In mid-May, more than 50 Democrats broke a quorum during a regularly scheduled session of the Legislature. With fewer than 100 members present, the House was unable to consider a congressional redistricting bill designed to increase GOP strength in Washington. < snip >
In each incident, the quorum-busters successfully killed the legislation they wanted dead. But in the case of redistricting, Perry has called the Legislature back into special session, and the GOP-controlled House has already approved a bill that would produce up to six new Republican congressional seats.
< snip >
"If this ruling had come out two weeks ago, we might have gone to Ardmore again," Burnam said. "It's major vindication as far as I'm concerned."
So now the entire state of Texas knows that the only way democrats can kill legislation they don't like is to run away to Oklahoma?
I would love to see every single one of these dem "legislators" challenged in the general election, with Repubicans running on the slogan, "If _________ likes Oklahoma so much, let's give him the opportunity to move there. Vote him OUT."
To: TigerTale
"The Texas Constitution
Article 3 - LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT
Section 10 - QUORUM; ADJOURNMENTS FROM DAY TO DAY; COMPELLING ATTENDANCE
Two-thirds of each House shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner and under such penalties as each House may provide."
Now, it doesn't say "unlimited" per se, but "in such manner and under such penalties" is darn well the same thing.
To: ShakeNJake
"The Texas Constitution
Article 3 - LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT
Section 28 - TIME FOR APPORTIONMENT; APPORTIONMENT BY LEGISLATIVE REDISTRICTING BOARD
The Legislature shall, at its first regular session after the publication of each United States decennial census, apportion the state into senatorial and representative districts, agreeable to the provisions of Sections 25 and 26 of this Article. In the event the Legislature shall at any such first regular session following the publication of a United States decennial census, fail to make such apportionment, same shall be done by the Legislative Redistricting Board of Texas, which is hereby created, and shall be composed of five (5) members, as follows: The Lieutenant Governor, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Attorney General, the Comptroller of Public Accounts and the Commissioner of the General Land Office, a majority of whom shall constitute a quorum. Said Board shall assemble in the City of Austin within ninety (90) days after the final adjournment of such regular session. The Board shall, within sixty (60) days after assembling, apportion the state into senatorial and representative districts, or into senatorial or representative districts, as the failure of action of such Legislature may make necessary. Such apportionment shall be in writing and signed by three (3) or more of the members of the Board duly acknowledged as the act and deed of such Board, and, when so executed and filed with the Secretary of State, shall have force and effect of law. Such apportionment shall become effective at the next succeeding statewide general election. The Supreme Court of Texas shall have jurisdiction to compel such Board to perform its duties in accordance with the provisions of this section by writ of mandamus or other extraordinary writs conformable to the usages of law. The Legislature shall provide necessary funds for clerical and technical aid and for other expenses incidental to the work of the Board, and the Lieutenant Governor and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall be entitled to receive per diem and travel expense during the Board's session in the same manner and amount as they would receive while attending a special session of the Legislature. (Amended Nov. 2, 1948, and Nov. 6, 2001.)"
Here is another applicable section. Interesting what one can learn when one actually takes the time to read their state's constitution.
To: TigerTale
you are correct. my mistake. quoting that term was wrong. However, Article III, Section 10 declares that a group too small to produce a quorom can, "compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide."
In my mind this means that any manner is available along with any penalty the legislature wishes to impose. IOW, there is tremendous leeway in action. This stands in stark contrast to most of the Constitution which details limits on just about every issue addressed. Hope this helps a bit. Again, my mmistake. Apologies to all for bad info.
To: Texas_Jarhead
The Rats went forum shopping to get this ruling, purely for political purposes. It will be overturned on appeal, assuming we even bother to appeal it. There's nothing in this ruling that prevents us from using the DPS to round them up if they try it again. There's no permanent injunction.
It's a Rat judge in cahoots with the Rats to make a political ruling.
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:05:26 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: proxy_user
Now, now. I know we don't like it, but the ruling appears to be correct based on the actual content of the law. I agree. Time for the Texas pubs to change the law!
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:07:46 PM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: mhking
And they met privately and "worked" in violation of the open meetings act.
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:32:23 PM PDT
by
weegee
To: Sabertooth
Hey judge, enforce your ruling, ass.
If the Dems bolt again, I hope they do get the DPS involved.
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posted on
07/11/2003 1:55:21 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: rwfromkansas
Are texas rangers under the DPS umbrella?
Is the National Guard?
Is there a reason that the governor cannot deputize citizens?
IMO, they need to call Dog if this happens again.
To: Stopislamnow
good point.....they probably could just get other enforcement agencies involved.
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posted on
07/11/2003 2:57:02 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: ShakeNJake
Which is why it is obvious this judge ignored state law to give members of his political party the ability to give the system, and the people, the finger.
Absolutely reprehensible.
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:06:08 PM PDT
by
Houmatt
(If it is about what goes on in the bedroom, why doesn't it stay there? And leave our kids alone!)
To: MattGarrett
That would be pretty brazen. But then again, nothing surprises me as far as the RATS are concerned.
Tom Foley actually sued his own constituents when they passed a referendum on term limits.
They responded by voting that arrogant SOB out of office.
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:11:09 PM PDT
by
Houmatt
(If it is about what goes on in the bedroom, why doesn't it stay there? And leave our kids alone!)
To: Texas_Jarhead
this judge needs to re-read the State Constitution which gives the legislature 'unlimited' power to bring in folks who run away to avoid a quorum. The Constitution is very explicit on this issue. The provision in question reads:
"Two-thirds of each House shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner and under such penalties as each House may provide."
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:18:43 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: TigerTale
While the word "unlimited" is not used, the provision is in Article 3 Section 10
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:20:18 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Stopislamnow
Are texas rangers under the DPS umbrella?
Is the National Guard?
Is there a reason that the governor cannot deputize citizens? Yes, No and No. However it's not the governor's business, not directly, it's the legislature's business, as shown by the Texas Constitutional provision above.
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posted on
07/11/2003 3:48:23 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the post and ping, Saber !
"There could well be another quorum situation, but you wouldn't have to go to Ardmore," Brender said. "You could just stay in Muleshoe or El Paso or Beaumont or wherever."
Republican Party spokesman Ted Royer said the political costs of another walkout would be too high.
"I think the Democrats learned their lesson from the last walkout, with the tremendous amount of outrage expressed by the people of Texas, and they would be foolhardy to try it again," he said.
Texas House 'RATS in May 2003:
Democrats über alles = Democrats over everything
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924411/posts?page=17#17
Texas House 'RATS July 2003 during the Special Session:
07-08-2003
House passes remap
Veteran Democrats may lose seats if bill goes through Senate
Above article is worthy of showing that a picture indeed is worth a thousand words:
First the Chicken Ds run away to Ardmore, Oklahoma. That didnt work, so here they are,
still having a fit during the Redistricting debate:

As King began his argument for the new congressional boundaries Monday afternoon, about 30 Democrats in the gallery donned white socks as hand puppets to mock King. Every time he spoke, the little white mouths flapped.
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:02:48 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: yall
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posted on
07/11/2003 4:12:48 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: Flyer
Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges! Get a rope !!

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posted on
07/11/2003 5:03:48 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: Sabertooth
Get the rope!
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:10:30 PM PDT
by
AndrewC
To: MeeknMing
He who hesitates is lost.(I was looking for a Pace Picante picture)
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:11:28 PM PDT
by
AndrewC
To: Sabertooth
Fine. Have the Governor call up the militia to round them up and haul them in.
To: Tench_Coxe
Have the Governor call up the militia to round them up and haul them in.How about a mob with pitchforks and torches. I'd volunteer.
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posted on
07/11/2003 5:15:57 PM PDT
by
AndrewC
To: Sabertooth
Republican Party spokesman Ted Royer said the political costs of another walkout would be too high. "I think the Democrats learned their lesson from the last walkout, with the tremendous amount of outrage expressed by the people of Texas, and they would be foolhardy to try it again," he said. I'm not so sure about that, but let us hope this is the case.
To: AndrewC
He who hesitates is lost.(I was looking for a Pace Picante picture) Google Image Search is wonderful. . . 

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posted on
07/11/2003 6:01:40 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: AndrewC
And, btw, thanks for the reminder. The last time (2-3 days ago) I went lookin' for some Pace, I was at Wal-Mart and couldn't find it. I know they must have it, but their new Super Center is SOooooo huge here, I couldn't find it. Oh, well, LOL ! Now I am reddy for some chips and whatever that not too bad sauce is called ! 
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posted on
07/11/2003 6:07:41 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: Victoria Delsoul
The Democrats won't learn anything until they're jailed.
To: MeeknMing
Thanks, I use google, but I was thinking more of a cowboy with a caption. I did find a picture of the first Pace Picante group, but I deemed it confusing.(You can see they are smiling.)
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posted on
07/11/2003 7:00:42 PM PDT
by
AndrewC
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