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Trailer to Mel Gibson's THE PASSION! (GRAPHIC)
Ain't it cool news ^ | 7/12/03

Posted on 07/12/2003 2:47:09 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

Something truly outstanding! The very graphic trailer to Mel Gibson's THE PASSION!

Hey folks, Harry here... Once every now and again a really special project comes along borne out of a passion for the material. We've seen Peter Jackson's passion really come through with his LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy thus far, and well... I've got a feeling that Mel Gibson has that same sort of drive in the making of THE PASSION. While I'm not a deeply religious person, I can not help, but acknowledge the ingrained power to the story of Christ's final hours. Simply, as one film called it, it's the greatest story ever told, or at least one of them.

The story of Christ in those final hours is one of pain and torment and astonishing spirit. From the images in this trailer that was sent to me, I can't help but believe in Mel's vision for the film. Shot in the original language of the time and allegedly being shone sans subtitles, I really feel this is not only powerful filmmaking, but a bold artistic step forward for Mel. I also feel that it has the chance to really become a bit of a phenomenon in theaters that play it, and can't believe it hasn't been picked up by a studio yet. I mean, the story behind the making of this film in its original "dead" languages and the opportunity to have Mel Gibson on every talk show in the world talking about the decisions and reasons he had for making the film this way... Well, I think it has a wider audience than anyone is currently expecting. Here's the trailer that was sent to me... See what you think, though 10 to 1, it will crash my server, so be quick!

Click Here For THE PASSION!


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1 posted on 07/12/2003 2:47:09 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely
Did you see it?
2 posted on 07/12/2003 2:57:22 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: Brian Mosely
I just downloaded it. Quite moving.
3 posted on 07/12/2003 2:59:04 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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4 posted on 07/12/2003 2:59:10 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Brian Mosely
Thanks for posting this. Let this be another end times witness to the world. God bless Mel. A lot of us Freepers have major theological agreements, but not on the incomprehensible grace God showed to hell-deserving sinners like us in allowing his eternal Son to suffer and die such an agonizing death to pay for our sins. And it was our sins, as well as the players in that first century A.D. drama that put him there. And He is coming again. He came the first time as a suffering sacrifice. He's coming again as a conquering king. He came the first time to save. He's coming the second time to judge. At the first time the serpent bruised his heel, but when He returns the crushing of the serpent's head that began on the cross will be completed. When He returns, ALL will confess that He is Lord, for some He will only be their Judge. For believers, He will be their Savior. The first time He saved us from the power and penalty of sin. The second time, He will save us from the very presence of sin. He is coming. No act of Congress, no resolution from the U.N., no decision of the Supreme Court and no mortal army nor the Devil himself and all of the demons of hell can stop this event from taking place. Ahem. Excuse me for preaching a little.

Psalm 2: "1 Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying, 3 "Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us." 4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The LORD shall hold them in derision. 5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His deep displeasure: 6 "Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion." 7 "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.'" 10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed, you judges of the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him."

5 posted on 07/12/2003 3:37:32 AM PDT by razorbak
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To: Brian Mosely
Wow. I think this film is going to be huge all around the world. Thanks for sharing.
6 posted on 07/12/2003 3:55:43 AM PDT by wolficatZ
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To: wolficatZ
Wow. I think this film is going to be huge all around the world.

If he subtitles it. But far less people then he thinks are going to go to a movie in Aramaic.

7 posted on 07/12/2003 4:03:11 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Whatever. Personally I would like to see it without subtitles. We'll see.
8 posted on 07/12/2003 4:10:11 AM PDT by wolficatZ
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To: Rodney King
I don't understand what is gained by putting it in Aramaic and Latin. Actors can remember phonetic pronunciation but it doesn't compare to inflecting syllables and breaking words in two and other techniques that come naturally when you're acting in your own language.

It's one thing to do it for a couple minutes in LotR, another to fill a movie with it. I know, I know, the images will be more important than the words, but reading subtitles can be distracting too.

And please, the nails go through the WRISTS!! Man, that bothers me.
9 posted on 07/12/2003 4:14:11 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: wolficatZ
I don't really need subtitles, either. After a lifetime in Catholic church praying during the Way of the Cross, I know the words in my heart.

But since Gibson hopes to attract a wider audience, he's the director, let him decide.

Maybe someday we can watch the director's cut on DVD.

Looking forward to seeing this movie very much, subtitles or no.
10 posted on 07/12/2003 4:24:18 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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To: wolficatZ
Whatever. Personally I would like to see it without subtitles. We'll see.

I will see it without subititles also, but remember, hopefully the point of the movie is not just to please those of us who already love the Lord. Hopefully, 100 million non-Christians around the world will see the movie and learn to love Christ. It is those people who are most important, and it is for them that their ought to be subtitles as they don't know and understand what really happened.

11 posted on 07/12/2003 4:27:00 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Brian Mosely
I couldn't get it to download. It tried to open in Quick Time but never did. I have high-speed cable.
12 posted on 07/12/2003 4:33:26 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I have high speed also and it took about 5 minutes to open.

It was worth it.

13 posted on 07/12/2003 4:59:42 AM PDT by JZoback (Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
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To: JZoback
It's worth warning those with modems only: 22.6 MB download. Ouch!
14 posted on 07/12/2003 5:28:32 AM PDT by NYS_Eric
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I can't get it to download either....
I have highspeed internet too...
15 posted on 07/12/2003 5:29:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (...a Florida resident for almost 30 years!!)
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To: Brian Mosely
It was so hoping this film would be as good as Mels other projects.

Looks like he is about to hit another home run!

I cannot wait!!!!!!!!!!!

16 posted on 07/12/2003 5:41:46 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Brian Mosely
Wow.

The blood of Jesus.
17 posted on 07/12/2003 5:47:15 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Amazing. Worth the wait. With these incredibly strong visuals, I'm beginning to think that Gibson's decision to shoot the movie in latin and aramaic dialogue only is a stroke of genius. Subtitling in english would only likely detract from the power of the visual narrative.
18 posted on 07/12/2003 5:54:07 AM PDT by Plainsman
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To: Brian Mosely
I've got one minor gripe with this film already -- based even just on what I've seen in this trailer.

On a physiological level, the film looks to be factually incorrect. It shows the soldiers driving a nail into the palm of Jesus' hand. In contrast, the image on the Shroud of Turin shows nail wounds in the wrists, not in the palms of the hand. Scientists who have examined the Shroud have used this seemingly minor detail as evidence of the Shroud's authenticity -- in order to support the weight of an adult human body, a nail must be driven through the wrist between the radius and ulna bones, mot through the palm.

19 posted on 07/12/2003 5:58:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
You are exactly right. There is a scholarly article on crucifixion in Roman times. Not only did they put the spike between the two bones in the wrist, but they also used a flat piece of wood as a "washer" to further ensure that the victim did not fall off.

This caused me to wonder about, then, Thomas' insistence on seeing the "palms" of Jesus' hands, but an expert on that era at Miami University, Ed Yamauchi, informed me that the Greek word for "wrists" and "palms" was the same. So Thomas said he wouldn't believe until he put his fingers in the holes in the wrists.

20 posted on 07/12/2003 6:14:11 AM PDT by LS
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To: Brian Mosely
I'm pretty sure they decided to add subtitles.
21 posted on 07/12/2003 6:17:55 AM PDT by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: LS
Exactly. And you can understand exactly why this simple fact would be such a compelling piece of evidence in support of the Shroud's authenticity. If you look at just about any piece of religious art that dates back to the Middle Ages, you'll find that in the crucifixion of Christ the nails are shown in the palms of His hands. Therefore, if someone from that era were intent on making a forgery for the sake of duping the public, they would certainly have followed the "accepted" convention at the time about how the crucifixion of Christ was carried out. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a very compelling forgery!
22 posted on 07/12/2003 6:25:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
I see your point. I take no position on the Shroud. My faith doesn't rest in a piece of cloth, but the Risen Christ.

But, common sense tells you that the flesh of the hands would not begin to support the weight of a man who leans forward, nor could they have (as is falsely shown in many movies) tied them up there with ropes, because that defeated the deadly effect of the crucifixion process.

23 posted on 07/12/2003 6:29:02 AM PDT by LS
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To: Brian Mosely
Thanks for this.

Awesome, as in "awe inspiring." I cannot imagine the intensity of those scenes on the big screen.

This is definitely not your typical Hollywood Jesus Christ.

24 posted on 07/12/2003 6:51:19 AM PDT by don-o
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To: Plainsman
"Subtitling in english would only likely detract from the power of the visual narrative."

I agree with you. Subtitling gets in the way. While people are trying to read the captions, they're missing what's on the screen. No one needs subtitles to explain the suffering shown in the few moments of this trailer. I was brought to tears.

25 posted on 07/12/2003 6:53:15 AM PDT by mass55th (i)
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To: Rodney King
Perhaps you are right. I basically know the story and am familiar with a lot of the dialog (not as well as a lot of Christians, though) so I am looking forward to just seeing things close to the way they might have actually happened.
26 posted on 07/12/2003 7:02:36 AM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: krb
Just another point about authenticity. I went to the "shroud" exhibit recently and they had a panel describing that those crucified carried "only" the crossbeam of the cross, not the whole thing. It would be far too heavy.
27 posted on 07/12/2003 7:08:34 AM PDT by ozzie
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To: Brian Mosely
AWESOME! This is gonna really be big. I'm sitting here sensing the Presence of the Lord like I never have before...God Bless Mel Gibson.
28 posted on 07/12/2003 7:10:55 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Brian Mosely
What a powerful trailer!!!! I am a little dissappointed at the minor errors : Nails through the palms instead of the wirst, carrying the whole croos instead of just the crossbeam, etc. But I can forgive these nitpicks as it is the message that is most important.

And that message shone through loud and clear, even in just the couple minutes of this trailer.

29 posted on 07/12/2003 7:27:32 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: commish
I am very dissappointed in my spelling in my above post! LOL! wirst? croos? UGH!
30 posted on 07/12/2003 7:29:30 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: LS
Ooh! You know Edwin Yamauchi! I'm impressed!

Dan
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31 posted on 07/12/2003 7:30:20 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Brian Mosely; LS
As I've said, I'll certainly support it where it's Biblical, and certainly criticize it where it's not.

The brutality that comes through on the trailer -- definintely Biblical and historical. Not your father's movie-Jesus.

The woman crushing the serpent's head -- viciously anti-Biblical (Genesis 3:15).

Dan
32 posted on 07/12/2003 7:33:27 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
The woman crushing the serpent's head -- viciously anti-Biblical (Genesis 3:15).

I thought that was the risen Lord crushing the serpent's head.

I'll watch it again and check back.

33 posted on 07/12/2003 7:41:11 AM PDT by don-o
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To: commish
Actually, I saw a piece on an American Scientist (he was kind of creepy) who had created a device to simulate the cross, and he had discovered that, with the wooden washers, it was possible to drive the nails throuh the palms. What you have to reember is that the weight is primarily borne on the feet, which is why the legs were broken to speed death.
34 posted on 07/12/2003 7:56:17 AM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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To: don-o; BibChr
I thought that was the risen Lord crushing the serpent's head.

It's not clear who crushed it. It seems to be night, so, I'm guessing it was the Lord after he came out of the tomb.

Overall Dan, what do you think of this film?

35 posted on 07/12/2003 7:57:19 AM PDT by don-o
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To: Skywalk
No problem. Think of it as when you were little and your dad gave you "that" look. You knew what he was saying and you sure didnt need subtitles. That is what Mel is trying to do here. The graphics tell the story, it is beyond language. IMHO
36 posted on 07/12/2003 8:37:44 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: don-o
I say that, don, because I'd read elsewhere of Mary crushing the serpent's head, and then in the trailer it seems to me that that is what's going on. I'd be delighted if it were Jesus, and will be happy to correct my comment if that's what's in the movie.

Oh really, what I think is mostly what I just wrote, because that's all I've seen. Otherwise, I've commented on reports.

The only other thing I think I've said beyond what's in my last posting, is that I have mixed thoughts on focusing on just the Crucifixion to the exclusion of the Resurrection, if that's what Gibson does. Literarily, it's a bit as if [WARNING: read no further if you've not read The Lord of the Rings] Jackson were to end the story at the point at which Gollum steals the ring back from Frodo. Dramatic, yes, but by incompletion tells the wrong story. The story of the Crucifixion is vital; the Resurrection is what gives it its full meaning (1 Corinthians 15:1ff.). Leave that out, one at least runs the risk of telling the wrong story.

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site

37 posted on 07/12/2003 9:31:42 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: fish hawk
Let's put aside the nic-picking....MY prayer is that thousands will be saved upon seeing this movie. FOR YOUR GLORY LORD! Many, many blessings upon Mel and his movie!
38 posted on 07/12/2003 9:35:30 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Brian Mosely
Thanks for the heads up.

Very moving.

39 posted on 07/12/2003 10:04:15 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: BibChr
The woman crushing the serpent's head -- viciously anti-Biblical (Genesis 3:15).

Viciously anti-PETA as well.

40 posted on 07/12/2003 10:31:17 AM PDT by proust (Hello, Cthulhu!)
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To: proust
Ooh, good point... never thought of that.

Oh, and... Cthulhu DOESN'T ftagn.

Dan
(c8
41 posted on 07/12/2003 10:33:26 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: RoseofTexas
Oooops...nic-picking=nitpicking
42 posted on 07/12/2003 3:49:44 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Brian Mosely
thanks....btt
43 posted on 07/12/2003 3:56:43 PM PDT by drq
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To: Skywalk
And please, the nails go through the WRISTS!! Man, that bothers me.

This is still being disputed. According to several researchers ... well, you decide ...

The Wounds in Christ's Hands

44 posted on 07/14/2003 8:38:53 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: BibChr
Not to get into apologetics or anything , BUT the accurate wording of Sacred Scripture says:
I will put enmities between thee and the woman and thy seed and her seed, she shall crush thy head and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
Gen 3:15
I'm sure I don't have to tell you our Lord is not a "she", so Mel's right on.
45 posted on 07/14/2003 4:10:55 PM PDT by gypsigirl
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To: gypsigirl
How long have you studied Hebrew?

For me, it's about thirty years now.

The Hebrew text is unambiguous and, in fact, emphatic. The masculine pronoun is added, though not needed; and the verb is Qal imperfect, third person masculine singular with a second person masculine singular pronominal suffix. "He, he shall strike you."

No doubt about that.

Glad to help,

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site

46 posted on 07/14/2003 5:33:45 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wolficatZ
I would like to see it both ways.

Heck, show it in subtitles in some theaters and not in others.

But, it probably would be more practical to have no subtitles in the movie version, but add them for the dvd.
47 posted on 07/14/2003 8:46:11 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: redlipstick
Ping for this trailer.

It takes a few minutes to download but is worth the wait.

48 posted on 07/14/2003 10:08:55 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
So what happens if this becomes the movie of the year?

Will the academy give it an Oscar?

If it does, what will the award ceremony be like?

49 posted on 07/14/2003 10:17:59 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Brian Mosely
Amazing...............
50 posted on 07/14/2003 10:41:23 PM PDT by RightOnline
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