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Tibet Through Chinese Eyes
The Atlantic ^ | 02/99 | Peter Hessler

Posted on 07/13/2003 7:02:15 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State

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To: Enemy Of The State
Perhaps he has spent too much time there and it has in some way, warped his view of reality.

That happens. I know two Americans who have lived in the Middle East for several years, and now they talk about the Zionist Plot To Rule The World and mad stuff like that. Propaganda works, eventually.

21 posted on 07/14/2003 7:35:57 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I'm an Ann Coulter soul trapped in a Janeane Garofalo body.)
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To: HighRoadToChina
And the "mayhem" of the Cultural Revolution. I especially like that. "Mayhem." It can mean anything from "violent destruction" to merely "riotous disorder; confusion." Talk about downplaying slaughter.
22 posted on 07/14/2003 7:39:56 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I'm an Ann Coulter soul trapped in a Janeane Garofalo body.)
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To: HighRoadToChina
[I am too ashamed to be a Chinese when I read this.]

Dude, you're Californian. ;^)

23 posted on 07/14/2003 7:46:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I'm an Ann Coulter soul trapped in a Janeane Garofalo body.)
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To: HighRoadToChina
The second is purely military. Tibet serves as an important and strategically vital military base for Communist China, i.e., ICBM bases, buffer zone between Communist China and its perennial enemy, democratic India, etc.

My Chinese wife (born in Beijing, raised in Tianjin) is as anticommunist as they come, but she also understands why the govt would never let Tibet go (something, perhaps, for the "etc." part of your list, HRTC): They would never allow another nation to control the headwaters of the Huang He and the Yangtze.

24 posted on 07/14/2003 7:53:20 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I may be a California, but Chinese first! A Chinese patriot in the sense of what a real partiotic Germany was during the Nazi reign.
25 posted on 07/14/2003 5:46:11 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: HighRoadToChina; Enemy Of The State
Useful idiots indeed.

Today:

The Subaru Forester weighted down with stickers on its ass including:

END WAR

FREE TIBET

I submit that this anacephalic sticker head would turn purple at the mention of the CIA--

--yet the CIA was the last gasp for Tibetan independence in the 1959 horseback Armageddon.

When the Dalai Lama spoke at the temple across Airport Road here in Santa Fe (its bright pinacle visible from our window) the street was lined with yuppiemobiles as the faithful pilgrims paid homage--

--then proceeded to send their contributions to Hillary for Senate.

With the Clintons' weapons treachery the ChiComs can make Tibetans of us all.

Free Tibet; End War.

And the genocide continues as the anacephalics imitate bobbing headed dashboard dogs.

Wu.

26 posted on 07/14/2003 6:46:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Well, at least they are doing something right--maybe that's a start. Won't hold my breath though. ;-)
27 posted on 07/14/2003 7:12:35 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: HighRoadToChina
FREEDOM Bump!
28 posted on 07/15/2003 12:07:46 AM PDT by Joy Angela (Freep Hillary at a Book Signing Now!)
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To: PhilDragoo
All the anacephalic yuppies with Free Tibet on the bumpers of their Range Rovers.
Oh, and Richard Gere.
All these fools reelected the Clintons who have made China a nuclear threat to the entire world.

Please do not insinuate that all Tibet supporters are commie sympathizers or anarchists. You would be sadly mistaken and deprive yourself and others the opportunity to do something meaningful to end the suffering and pain inflicted on 20% of humanity.

If we stand up for the values of our founding fathers, we would naturally oppose the perpetrators of acts, regulations, laws, and policies that deprive 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.' Even if Richard Gere asks us to think about stopping war, it is his right and opinion. Does one need to agree with all the positions stated by someone to agree with any of them individually ?

Looking at the material gains that have been bestowed by a 'benevolent' Chinese state ignores the brutalities and assumes that the Tibetan people are unable to develop their own economy, culture and civilization. That could be interpreted as 'racist' by PC folks, but really just an excuse to legitimize an immoral occupation.

As far as original CCP line about the 'minorities', I would offer the following Unfulfilled Promises from the quotations of Chairman Mao. An excerpt below:

In 1924 Dr. Sun Yat-sen wrote in the Manifesto of the First National Congress of the Kuomintang that "the Kuomintang's Principle of Nationalism has a twofold meaning, first, the liberation of the Chinese nation, and second, the equality of all the nationalities in China" and that "the Kuomintang solemnly declares that it recognizes the right to self-determination of all the nationalities in China and that a free and united republic of China (a free union of all the nationalities) will be established when the anti-imperialist and anti-warlord revolution is victorious".
The Communist Party of China is in full agreement with Dr. Sun's policy on nationalities as stated here. Communists must actively help the people of all the minority nationalities to fight for it, and help them, including all their leaders who have ties with the masses, to fight for their political, economic and cultural emancipation and development and to establish their own armies which will safeguard the people's interests. Their spoken and written languages, their manners and customs and their religious beliefs must be respected.

If this is the original plan (1945), then it seems that the plan changed. Hopefully a new, free China will recognize the rights and identities of all people under CCP rule and provide them the right to self-determination. Otherwise, the new China will look just like all the old Chinas.

Free Tibet !
Free East Turkestan!
Free Inner Mongolia!
Free China!

kgg

29 posted on 07/15/2003 9:23:53 AM PDT by Gangchen_gonpo (I know who is behind the Axis of Evil and you should as well.)
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Amen to freedom for all Chinese and Tibetans.

Such freedom will come from the spread of democracy as known in Taiwan and the U.S.

China censors Western satellite feeds and the internet activity of its subjects.

China cracks down on Tibetan Buddhists, clandestine Christians, harmless Falun Gong.

It dare not allow the "national liberation" or "self-determination" it gave lip service to in 1945.

Faced with Hong Kong's objection to curtailed civil liberties it might appear to bend, but in the manner of a bow.

Let us indeed stand up for the values of our founding fathers, in contrast to the atheist Communists.

We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

30 posted on 07/15/2003 6:47:31 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: HighRoadToChina
Thank God for emigrees! ;)
31 posted on 07/23/2003 1:37:25 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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