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To: Gary Boldwater
Don't know about 1000 yards, but my 5'1" daughter recently qualified at 500 yards. Good thing, too - she didn't shoot too well at 300 yards. Figures she'll either have to shoot 'em at 500, or wait until they close to 200 yards. In between they are safe.

Of course, it would be preferable it the Marines avoided sending her to the front lines - as she'll admit, 5'1" & 115 lbs has real drawbacks for combat.
33 posted on 07/13/2003 4:44:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Congratulations to your daughter, and to you for raising a fine American.

Gents, this is what I mean when I say the Marines know what they are doing with marksmanship. The Army comparatively has it's head up it's fourth point of contact. If the Army REMFs from that ambush had had the training Mr Rogers's daughter got, it might have been Iraqis who had to bury their sons and daughters.

The Marines understand that their REMFs might have to fight, and they prepare them. The Army tells theirs that, hey, this is just a neat way to get some college money, you just have to dress funny for a while.

I see a lot of people posting here who are quick to assume that the guys at the shooting range know what's what, and the guys making weapons decisions in the military don't.

I'd like to remind all of ya, that the people in the military who evaluate weapons have usually got experience applying them.

Can the weapons we have be improved? Sure. Will some of those improvements come from research in the civilian shooting community? You betcha. But shooting people professionaly requires some different gear (and allows some different possibilities) than shooting on any kind of range. I don't know any infantry officer who would, given the problem of an enemy-occupied building in the open 500m away, engage the same with rifle fire. You have a whole bunch of other magic in your wand for a situation like that.

Finally... OK, some mechanics and truck drivers say their rifles, which they hadn't cleaned in a freakin' geological period, jammed. Uh-huh. These are the same rifles that the Rangers used in Somalia in 1993. Why did the mechanics' rifles jam, and the Rangers' rifles didn't? Hint: the rifles are not the variable in this equation.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
90 posted on 07/13/2003 8:56:39 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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