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French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium'
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 07/14/03 | Michael Smith

Posted on 07/13/2003 5:14:06 PM PDT by Pokey78

The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans "credible" intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday.

MI6 had more than one "different and credible" piece of intelligence to show that Iraq was attempting to buy the ore, known as yellowcake, British officials insisted. But it was given to them by at least one and possibly two intelligence services and, under the rules governing cooperation, it could not be shared with anyone else without the originator's permission.

US intelligence sources believe that the most likely source of the MI6 intelligence was the French secret service, the DGSE. Niger is a former French colony and its uranium mines are run by a French company that comes under the control of the French Atomic Energy Commission.

A further factor in the refusal to hand over the information might have been concern that the US administration's willingness to publicise intelligence might lead to sources being inadvertently disclosed.

US sources also point out that the French government was vehemently opposed to the war with Iraq and so suggest that it would have been instinctively against the idea of passing on the intelligence.

British sources yesterday dismissed suggestions of a row between MI6 and the CIA on the issue. However, they admitted being surprised that George Tenet, the CIA director, had apologised to President George W Bush for allowing him to cite the British government and its claim that Saddam had sought to acquire uranium from Africa in his State of the Union speech last October.

The apology follows the International Atomic Energy Authority's dismissal of documents given to it by the CIA, which purported to prove the link, as fakes.

Those documents have been widely identified with last September's British dossier on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, which said Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium ore from an unnamed country in Africa.

British officials admitted that the country was Niger but insisted that the intelligence behind it was genuine and had nothing to do with the fake documents. It was convincing and they were sticking with it, the officials said.

They dismissed a report from a former US diplomat who was sent to Niger to investigate the claims and rejected them. "He seems to have asked a few people if it was true and when they said 'no' he accepted it all," one official said. "We see no reason at all to change our assessment."

The fake documents were not behind that assessment and were not seen by MI6 until after they were denounced by the IAEA. If MI6 had seen them earlier, it would have immediately advised the Americans that they were fakes.

There had been a number of reports in America in particular suggesting that the fake documents - which came from another intelligence source - were passed on via MI6, the officials said. But this was not true.

"What they can't accuse MI6 of doing is passing anything on this to the CIA because it didn't have the fake documents and it was not allowed to pass on the intelligence it did have to anyone else."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; bushropadope; cia; dgse; france; iaea; intelligence; mi6; niger; nigerflap; nonallyfrance; scandal; uranium; warlist; wmd
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To: Jim Robinson
IMHO, Condi, Rummy, & the rest of the Bushies are, once again, WAY AHEAD of this story.

I fully expect some DEVASTATING revelations in the not-too-distant future.

"W" is STILL playing Chess--while his opponents play Checkers. "Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey!"

The impatience of the 'Rats & Leftie Media is one of their greatest weaknesses. "RR" understood this well, & ambushed the "Lefties" repeatedly by gently pointing out that they'd "Stepped on Their Puds!"

What Fun!

Doc

61 posted on 07/13/2003 6:12:42 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay ( 2)
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To: Jim Robinson
Also, as quoted by Ann in her book:

"In the 20th century, treason became a vocation whose modern form was specifically the treason of ideas."
- Whittaker Chambers

62 posted on 07/13/2003 6:13:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dubyaismypresident
Thanks for providing the links. I really hate having to dig through my notes:>)
63 posted on 07/13/2003 6:14:40 PM PDT by cwb
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To: okie01
In any event, we should recognize that, while France is not necessarily an enemy, she is no longer an ally.

That much I recognize.

64 posted on 07/13/2003 6:19:19 PM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: Miss Marple
I wrote the French off when Dominque the Dandy went around to those nations on the Security Council trying to buy them off. I am dead certain that that was Bill Clinton's idea as well, because he thought Presidient Bush would not act without the Security Concil voting for intervention in Iraq.

You are of that theory too. We are probably right.

65 posted on 07/13/2003 6:20:09 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I don't need the Bush tax cut. I never worked a f****** day in my life. Patrick Kennedy D-RI)
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To: Miss Marple
"Grrrr. The more I think about this the madder I get."

Easy now. The First Felon and his legacy deserve a prominent spot in history -- squarely atop the refuse pile in history's dumpster.

I've little doubt that Clinton would collude with Chirac to embarrass the U.S. Hell, he would collude with Osama and Saddam, if he thought it might serve him or his henchlady.

66 posted on 07/13/2003 6:21:37 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: okie01; AntiGuv
I think this was a plan by france to cause a rift in the cozy Bush/Blair club that Italy under Berlusconi want's to join.

67 posted on 07/13/2003 6:24:28 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Pokey78
bump for later reference. This is going to be interesting.
68 posted on 07/13/2003 6:45:42 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: Satadru
Unnamed sources rock.

...and they're almost always more reliable.
This is almost poetic, really.

69 posted on 07/13/2003 6:52:20 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: marron
They dismissed a report from a former US diplomat who was sent to Niger to investigate the claims and rejected them. "He seems to have asked a few people if it was true and when they said 'no' he accepted it all," one official said. "We see no reason at all to change our assessment."

Yep... the infamous Mr. Joseph Williams, Gore campaign operative extroidinaire.

70 posted on 07/13/2003 6:56:57 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: William McKinley
"yellow cake"

There were other reports on "yellow cake". Remember the site in Iraq that the US Marines were given grief over for not securing properly. The locals allegedly took the drums used to store the "yellow cake" in.

Could this be the same "yellow cake" that Saddam was trying to buy from outside sources?
71 posted on 07/13/2003 6:57:36 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Jim Robinson
LOL, only you could get away with posting that on this forum. If any of us did it there would be 867 posts flaming us.
72 posted on 07/13/2003 6:57:57 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Durbin and Rockefeller
73 posted on 07/13/2003 6:58:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: William McKinley
William, you are an asset to this forum!
74 posted on 07/13/2003 6:58:58 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: Jim Robinson
And the anti-Republican/anti-Bush paleocon/paleolibertarian/buchananite/rockwellian/anarchist movement has combined with the Democrat/French/German/Iraq pro-terror axis.

Anyone who resides in the Free Republic knows you are about as dialed-in as anyone can get. If you could expound on this, or provide links to such expositions, I would be in your debt.

I am a registered Libertarian myself, but I am not a rube. I know that when push comes to shove, it's more important for me to vote against international socialism (aka the DNC) than to vote for a fellow Libertarian out to score a few philosphical brownie points.

I learned that lesson the hard way, when I voted for Harry Browne in 1992 instead of George H. W. Bush. It is an error I shall not repeat, ever.

Please enlighten me, O Keeper of the Sacred Flame of Freedom!

75 posted on 07/13/2003 7:00:21 PM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: rintense
The French company in question is "Cogema."
76 posted on 07/13/2003 7:00:26 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: William McKinley
Remember this:

"France's first lady expressed her support for a presidential run by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying that such a candidacy would be an inspiration to women worldwide."

Folks, there really is a Watergate style scandal coming. But it is not going to be about the administration. It is going to be about the Democrats.

And Clinton is going to be summond to testify about the knowledge he had concerning Iraq and Bin Ladin in the 9/11 investigation.
Pssst! His words about what he felt during HIS presidency are on record. Every word he spoke about why he felt he had to bomb the asprin factory and Iraq.
What did HE know, and when did he know it, aye?
With Gods help, this will come back to bite the Democrat attackers right in the as.......

77 posted on 07/13/2003 7:02:28 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Anti-American liberals are inbread Notsosmartso's.)
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To: DPB101; Miss Marple
An item of interest from the timeline, no doubt the Italian smugglers were using "forged documents" to snooker IRaq that time, too. A scam or not, it still proves that Iraq was very actively seeking to get around international restrictions even back then :

1982 : (IRAQI AGENTS PAID $60 MILLION TO ITALIAN SMUGGLERS TO TRY TO OBTAIN SMUGGLE ENRICHED URANIUM, GETS SNOOKERED; THEN SUCCEED IN OBTAINING YELLOWCAKE TO ENRICH ON ITS OWN FROM CHINA, BRAZIL AND NIGER) In 1982 Iraqi agents paid $60 million to a team of Italian-based smugglers who claimed to have access to stores of plutonium and highly enriched uranium. According to U.S. officials, the smugglers' offer was a fraud, and the Iraqis walked away from it empty- handed. Stung by those setbacks, Baghdad turned to a third means of joining the nuclear club: the enrichment of uranium to weapons-grade level in gas centrifuges. The centrifuges take uranium-bearing ore or a mixture called yellowcake and separate out the 3% of uranium 235, which is fissionable, from the 97% of uranium 238, which is not. Iraq is known to possess 250 tons of yellowcake, most of it purchased in the 1970s from Brazil, China and Niger. In recent years the country has also begun producing its own yellowcake from mines in northern Iraq. - "When Will Saddam Get the Bomb? Not nearly so soon as the Bush Administration claims, "By William R. Doerner, December 10, 1990 via TIME Capsule, The Evolution of the Iraqi Threat, Monday, May. 13, 2002 of http://www.time.com/time/classroom/article/0,12422,235482,00.html.

78 posted on 07/13/2003 7:06:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Miss Marple
I wrote the French off when Dominque the Dandy went around to those nations on the Security Council trying to buy them off. I am dead certain that that was Bill Clinton's idea as well, because he thought Presidient Bush would not act without the Security Concil voting for intervention in Iraq.

I have no doubt .. remember, Clinton himself had been making the arounds

I'll never forget short aftrr he meet with Mandela .. Mandela came out swinging against the US

79 posted on 07/13/2003 7:09:46 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: Imal
There is no secret to the fact that the antis have all effectively joined forces. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, etc. Read any Rockwell/Buchanan/Rainmondo/Paleo/Anarchist thread. They all preach the same anti-Bush, anti-Republican, anti-war, pro-terror message. And they're damn quick to jump on the anti-Bush bandwagon at the slightest drop of any misinformation put out by the New York Times/Washington Post anti-America propaganda machine.
80 posted on 07/13/2003 7:11:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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