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French secret service 'kept CIA in the dark over Iraq and uranium'
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 07/14/03 | Michael Smith

Posted on 07/13/2003 5:14:06 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Jim Robinson
On the bright side, you now qualify for free prescription drugs, courtesy of the GOP.

Hooray for socialism.

151 posted on 07/14/2003 6:40:54 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Pokey78
A further factor in the refusal to hand over the information might have been concern that the US administration's willingness to publicise intelligence might lead to sources being inadvertently disclosed.

I've got to give them that one -- it's quite a likely scenario.

152 posted on 07/14/2003 6:42:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
A quick scan of FR shows it to be increasingly populated by dullards who cannot abide criticism in any form, and who cheer while their party of choice runs this once great republic into the ground.

Waving the flag ain't all there is to patriotism.

153 posted on 07/14/2003 6:44:33 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
A quick scan of FR shows it to be increasingly populated by dullards who cannot abide criticism in any form

And find themselves so lacking in logical arguments they resort to calling others lunatics.

154 posted on 07/14/2003 6:56:22 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Miss Marple
I still think that there is something really bad yet to be discovered, and the French are in it up to their eyeballs.

I think Jaques Chirac's self interest is in it up to its eyeballs, and that's enough.

As we learned during the run-up to the war, Chirac had a close, personal relationship with the Saddam regime, and Saddam himself. There were all those unsecured personal loans, for instance, and a great deal of nuclear cooperation, and Chirac played a key role. So he needs to control that little problem.

Couple that with Chirac's obvious ambition to make the EU a legitimate world power, with Jaques Chirac as the head of Europe. He has to obstruct Bush/Blair, else he loses face.

Finally, I think there's also something else going on here. Chirac can count, and he knows that there are a lot of "unrepresented" Muslims out there. The Russians are killing 'em in Chechnya. We're supporting Israel and killing 'em in Iraq.

So Chirac, no doubt hoping to bank on France's colonial ties to the Arabs, probably figures he can swing the salamikazes over to his side. (This would also help mollify the huge Islamic minority in France proper.)

155 posted on 07/14/2003 6:57:35 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Jim Robinson
You are profoundly stupid.

So long.
156 posted on 07/14/2003 6:59:58 AM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: VRWC_minion
And the anti-Republican/anti-Bush paleocon/paleolibertarian/buchananite/rockwellian/anarchist movement has combined with the Democrat/French/German/Iraq pro-terror axis.

Uhhh... yeah...

This was a real "logical argument"...

But since it came from Jim... everyone smiles and nods.

And waves the flag.

And says "hooray".

And mumbles something about "dumbocrats" or "demorats" or something real intelligent like that.

And no one even notices that Bush's social spending and budget-busting pork makes Clinton look like Coolidge.

And anyone who dares question it, is a "terrorist traitor".

157 posted on 07/14/2003 7:00:43 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
A quick scan of FR shows it to be increasingly populated by dullards who cannot abide criticism in any form

A particularly apt description of FR libertarians and buchananites....

and who cheer while their party of choice runs this once great republic into the ground.

Your bias is showing, and you seem somehow to have missed the last 70+ years of American history.

Waving the flag ain't all there is to patriotism.

Quite true. Of course, we could just sit around bitching and moaning like you do, but it's rather sedentary. At least with flag waving you can work on your pecs.

158 posted on 07/14/2003 7:08:06 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Wow.

You really told me.

159 posted on 07/14/2003 7:10:00 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
This was a real "logical argument"...

Like it or not, Jim is correct. They are all on the same page with the same song. Apparently you know the words by heart also.

160 posted on 07/14/2003 7:14:43 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: VRWC_minion
Like it or not, Jim is correct.

Yeah... it says so right there on your tattoo.

161 posted on 07/14/2003 7:16:08 AM PDT by OWK
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To: SteamshipTime
You are profoundly stupid.

Profoundly stated.

162 posted on 07/14/2003 7:16:50 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: OWK
Please provide the discordant notes.

The group sound like they are in perfect harmony. That takes lots of practice together.

163 posted on 07/14/2003 7:19:47 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: OWK
You really told me.

Boy, do I feel chastened. You're on a roll here though. Are you gonna hold your breath next?

Or maybe you'd like to enter into a real discussion ... which will no doubt end as it always does, with you calling people names. So on second thought, since we're already there, I guess I'll just thank you for saving us the time.

164 posted on 07/14/2003 7:21:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Miss Marple
Dear Miss M,MPI would rather we just dump on the French! They deserve it.....but you may be right...the logic doesn't add up here and I cannot figure it out.
165 posted on 07/14/2003 7:21:53 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: r9etb
... which will no doubt end as it always does, with you calling people names.

Of course it doesn't dawn on you that the only reason I posted on the thread at all, was as a result of Jim's doing exactly that.

That would be too much like unscripted thought.

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled "GOP pep rally while the Nation burns" program)

166 posted on 07/14/2003 7:30:56 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Oh, BTW, I didn't notice your name on the donor list. I suppose you may have chosen to keep your donation anonymous, but given that you libertarians place great value on paying your own way....

Why not put your money where your mouth is?

167 posted on 07/14/2003 7:32:54 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: irish guard
Well, we were told quite some time ago that much of what would be done in the war on terror would be unseen.

We only see the military actions, the arrests of cells, and the announcements of frozen bank accounts.

We do NOT see the intelligence reports, the private diplomatic communiques, the discussions off-camera between Blair and Bush at Camp David, etc.

Given that there is so much we don't know, I can only try to deduce events from the public perormances, and this, of course, is an imperfect way to draw conclusions about what's going on.

The behavior of the Fench over the last year has really sent some red flags up, as far as I am concerned. We will just have to wait and see what surfaces, I guess.

168 posted on 07/14/2003 7:36:56 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: r9etb
Oh, BTW, I didn't notice your name on the donor list.

Ah yes... yet more lemming talk.

The only thing left is to call me a disruptor and ban me.

(and for the record I have donated considerably in the past... but will not be doing so in the future)

169 posted on 07/14/2003 7:37:27 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Ah yes... yet more lemming talk.

LOL!!!! You're touchy today.

170 posted on 07/14/2003 7:41:22 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Jim has a significant enough cadre of ass-kissers elbowing each other out of the way.

Be your own man.

171 posted on 07/14/2003 7:44:09 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Be your own man.

That's never been a problem for me. Is it a problem for you?

172 posted on 07/14/2003 7:46:59 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Miss Marple
No doubt that there is much we don't know about here, particularly since the Bush administration seems to favor less rather than more disclosure to the media.

As an aside, if Bush has dirt on France and has information or even evidence on WMDs as I have seen/read, he has tremendous self control.

A part of me really would like to see the French hung out to dry on this.

173 posted on 07/14/2003 7:49:18 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: r9etb
That's never been a problem for me.

He said, while elbowing others out of the way, for a prime spot in the shadow of the butt.

Have you donated he asks?

Sheesh.

174 posted on 07/14/2003 7:49:29 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK; Jim Robinson
One of the most puzzling things to me is how you folks seem to have nothing but negativity and insults to peddle, and then become suprememly frustrated that people don't come around to your point of view.

I am a proud supporter of the President, and I appreciate Jim's support, knowing as I do that he doesn't agree with all of the President's decisions, but cares more about the long-term health of the country and the judiciary.

I am sure that qualifies me as a sycophantic Bush-bot with no thought in my head, but there you have it!

I am now off to trim hedges for a couple of hours, so any answer you leave me will have a delayed reponse.

175 posted on 07/14/2003 8:03:47 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: OWK
Have you donated he asks?

LOL!!! You've got the "can't tolerate criticism" part nailed....

Do you have any opinion on the article, or are you gonna sit around bitching?

176 posted on 07/14/2003 8:05:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Miss Marple
One of the most puzzling things to me is how you folks seem to have nothing but negativity and insults to peddle, and then become suprememly frustrated that people don't come around to your point of view.

Once again, I return you to the comments that brought me here.

See post 35 and 40 for negativity and insults.

177 posted on 07/14/2003 8:08:29 AM PDT by OWK
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To: r9etb
I've voiced my opinion.

Have a nice butt-smooching day.

178 posted on 07/14/2003 8:09:21 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Have a nice butt-smooching day.

ROTFLMAO!!!! You're awfully fixated on JimRob's butt. Is there something you want to tell us?

179 posted on 07/14/2003 8:11:36 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
You're awfully fixated on JimRob's butt.

It is truly hard not to be, what with all of you people hanging off of it.

180 posted on 07/14/2003 8:14:42 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Jim Robinson
You provide the perfect example of how corrupt and fascist the Republicans have become. Enjoy your short lived neo-con victory while it lasts -- because its going to come crashing down in a few years. History will not be kind to the extreme ignorance and violence exhibited by the current aberration.
181 posted on 07/14/2003 8:18:37 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
BUMP!
182 posted on 07/14/2003 8:21:49 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: cwboelter
As I recall Cap Weinberger in a FOX SUNDAY interview, was very skeptical of the validity of Wilson's claim. He also said that it was not the Vice President who requested this investigation on the uranium.

Now we hear that it was someone in the mid-level of CIA who asked Wilson to check out the information.

It sounds to me there are way to many Clinton left overs in the CIA who are undercutting this administration.

183 posted on 07/14/2003 8:28:01 AM PDT by mware
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To: piasa
Excellent point, it should not be forgotten that Iraq had obtained over 13 tons of yellowcake included in the 31 tons of weapons grade uranium it obtained in the 80s. This quibbling over current "intent to procure" is essentially irrelevent.
184 posted on 07/14/2003 8:32:13 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: mware
"It sounds to me there are way to many Clinton left overs in the CIA who are undercutting this administration."

I agree completely. One only has to look at the very public resignation of the Clinton left-over who resigned when he learned about the looting of the Baghdad museum. Did this fool even stick around to wait for the facts. No! He wanted to make a political statement and embarass the President. This from a Party, were we didn't see one resignation after CLinton not only lied to them...but used them to lie for him.

From the "unnamed" leaks in the State Department to the Pentagon, to this Wilson charade, the Democrats are pulling out all stops to destroy Bush. Bush should've did what Clinton did when he took over...fired everybody. And that was another story the media ignored as Clinton dismissed all 93 US Attorney's (The DA Massacre) to set up his wall of protection within the Justice Department. Who can forget Travelgate? This administration is still swimming with Clintonites.
185 posted on 07/14/2003 8:44:20 AM PDT by cwb
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To: FreeReign
Its been the same since 1792.
186 posted on 07/14/2003 8:45:12 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: DoorGunner
Your calculations are incorrect but your point that Iraq procured tons of weapons grade material is absolutely correct.
187 posted on 07/14/2003 8:51:06 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Pokey78
Waiting for more info to come out....
188 posted on 07/14/2003 8:59:32 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: OWK
Your imaginary "great republic" has never been greater. Nostalgic fantasies don't qualify as political or historic realities.

Harkening back to a "Golden Age" which never existed doesn't help understand anything.
189 posted on 07/14/2003 9:03:17 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Your imaginary "great republic" has never been greater.

Of course.

We don't need no stinkin Constitution.

Rights be damned.

Free stuff for everybody.

Leviathan rules.

190 posted on 07/14/2003 9:09:47 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Typical hyperbolic hysteria indicating little understanding of the constitution nor political science. Rave on.
191 posted on 07/14/2003 9:18:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Typical hyperbolic hysteria indicating little understanding of the constitution nor political science. Rave on.

Yes of course. Far be it from me to suggest that the Constitution requires that wars be declared by congress... or that it does not authorize government to steal one man's property to give to another.

192 posted on 07/14/2003 9:20:47 AM PDT by OWK
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You use "political science" as a euphemism for the application of initiated violence as a means of getting your way. It's nothing to be proud of, or to aspire to. In fact, it is highly immoral. But, who needs morality when you can just stick a gun in somebody's face, eh?
193 posted on 07/14/2003 9:21:51 AM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Ur" correct. It is ONLY 315 tons. Those sneaky little decimal points are elusive at that hour.

Thanks for the heads up!

:-)

DG
194 posted on 07/14/2003 9:27:25 AM PDT by DoorGunner (DG=Fool, Liar, and sinner, [and apparently doesn't have a "life."] (Non Hæretico Comburendo))
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To: Jolly Rodgers
No, I use the word as derived from its original meaning -the science of governing the city (polis)- as applied to a society. Law results from applying this science. Our constitution was created by men who revered the law and who had absorbed the wisdom of the ancients in this field.
195 posted on 07/14/2003 9:29:31 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: DoorGunner
You overestimated by a factor of 10 while I have been posting an underestimate by a factor of 10 for a month.

Why isn't this a huge story in the RATmedia? Gee, I just wonder...
196 posted on 07/14/2003 9:31:30 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Pokey78
The French are NOT our friends and I wish we would change our policy to reflect that truth.
197 posted on 07/14/2003 9:32:06 AM PDT by lawgirl (Running from the Grand Ennui)
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To: OWK
The constitution does not provide a form for a declaration of war and what the current Congress provided is certainly sufficient.

Taxation is not "stealing" and none of the founders thought so.

Try again.
198 posted on 07/14/2003 9:33:23 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: lawgirl
The French are NOT our friends and I wish we would change our policy to reflect that truth.

They've already renamed them "Freedom Fries".

That wasn't enough?

199 posted on 07/14/2003 9:33:38 AM PDT by OWK
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Translation:

It really doesn't matter what the hell anyone raises as an objection, because I can and will rationalize just about anything.

200 posted on 07/14/2003 9:35:26 AM PDT by OWK
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