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GREAT LEAP FOR IRAQI DEMOCRACY
New York Post ^ | 7/15/03

Posted on 07/15/2003 12:30:50 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:15:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

July 15, 2003 -- It was just 10 weeks ago that President Bush, standing on the deck of USS Abraham Lincoln, cautioned that "the transition from dictatorship to democracy [in Iraq] will take time."

Though Bush was undoubtedly correct, the move towards democracy has taken a giant leap forward with the convening of a 25-member governing council that represents Baghdad's first post-Saddam interim government.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: governingcouncil; iraq; rebuildingiraq

1 posted on 07/15/2003 12:30:50 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
*fingers crossed*
2 posted on 07/15/2003 12:33:46 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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3 posted on 07/15/2003 12:35:40 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Howlin; Mo1; arasina; Pan_Yans Wife; wardaddy; justshe
Good news read.:-)
4 posted on 07/15/2003 12:38:08 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Well it's nice to know that someone in the media is actually paying attention to the news

I gotta see if I can get the NY Post delievered to my house
5 posted on 07/15/2003 12:51:06 AM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: Mo1
I get the Post delivered daily; have done, for years and years and YEARS; far longer than FR's been around.

You may be abel too...I know that it's available in many other states ( Ill., Fla., Cal. ) and it IS on line...the entire paper.

6 posted on 07/15/2003 12:53:37 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: kattracks
The sole criticism came from the Arab League, which complained that because members were appointed, rather than elected, it lacked "power and credibility."

That's pretty ironic - coming, as it does, from a gaggle of gangster states and thugocracies.

It's equally ironic that this "Council" should be seeking legitimacy in a body that thought in illegitimate to depose the Council's predecessor. How in the world can the UN grant support to such a governing body that came into being as the result of a coup condemned by the UN?

7 posted on 07/15/2003 12:55:19 AM PDT by stevem
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To: nopardons
I know it's online, but with the kids, I have to fight for time to use the computer ... grrrr
8 posted on 07/15/2003 12:57:28 AM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: Mo1
Well, go to their web site and see if they will deliver to where you are. :-)

Yep, kids can get in the way. I understand completely.

9 posted on 07/15/2003 1:03:04 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: kattracks
What's wrong with these people?! Don't they realize George W. Bush Lied about the nuclear program back in one speech in January?!! Don't they understand how lucky they were to be under a president who was elected unanimously to office?!! Those mass graves and stories of people hiding for 20+years are all probably fabrications too. /<extreme sarcasm off
10 posted on 07/15/2003 1:36:40 AM PDT by StarfireIV
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To: StarfireIV
The obvious fact is that if this were AlGore doing what Bush is doing, all the naysayers would be jumping up and down screaming what a wonderful thing this was. It's all politics. But it's terribly unfortunate that the great but very daring thing (Democracy in an Arab state) Bush is trying to pull off is being sabotaged by careerists and leftist scoundrels with no regard for the safety of their own country.
11 posted on 07/15/2003 2:22:59 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: kattracks
Is there a list of the appointees and some background info on them anywhere? Not sure but I thought I saw Chalibi sitting on the stage among them.
12 posted on 07/15/2003 3:36:59 AM PDT by steve50 (I don't know about being with "us", but I'm with the Constitution)
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To: steve50
I believe Chalabi is among them. TexKat posted the entire list in yesterday's Iraq thread (Op. Enduring Freedom, Day **), if you can find it.
13 posted on 07/15/2003 3:50:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
fyi
14 posted on 07/15/2003 4:09:51 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: kattracks
Maybe Im a bit superstitious, but I dont think I would use the term "Great Leap" in any sense when referring to a political issue.
15 posted on 07/15/2003 6:16:27 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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To: nopardons
Far from being a U.S.-imposed body of exiles, the council is made up mostly of prominent longtime Iraqi anti-Saddam political and tribal leaders, along with human-rights activists.

Interesting. But considering that Sadaam ran a state just as paranoid as Stalin's I don't see how any local "longtime" anti Sadaam "activists" could even have operated in Iraq much less be known as such to our occupation forces. And "human rights activists" in Iraq? Uh- sorry- this is a fantasy story.

16 posted on 07/15/2003 7:24:45 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Oh come on...there were antiNazis working right under Hitler's nose and Russians working secretly in the USSR. Just have an open mind. :-)
17 posted on 07/15/2003 7:32:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
There were anti Nazis that were quite well known to Roosevelt. And he refused to even speak with them (despite their many attempts to speak with him) or even acknowledge they existed. And they were high level German military men! And thus thousands of American military men died that didn't have too. And maybe millions of Jews, Gypsies, Poles, and others could have been saved as well.

As for Russia under Stalin- I am aware of no leaders or groups that were anti Stalin as to be such was death. Iraq had no such groups either. Are we "creating them" now?

18 posted on 07/15/2003 7:41:07 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Okay, so you know about the first group, but not the second. More book lists in order ? :-)

Oh come on ... EVERYONE knows about the Kurds. And yes, there were and ARE antiSaddam groups extant in Iraq. Do the scut work, brfore you attempt to poo poo it all.

19 posted on 07/15/2003 7:59:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
If there were Anti Sadaam groups in Iraq in the areas controlled by him then who are they? And if they existed or exist now then Sadaam ain't quite a hitler or stalin presented by Bush to justify this war. If Sadaam couldn't control his own country then how was he was a "threat" to us?
20 posted on 07/15/2003 8:06:22 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
If there were Anti Sadaam groups in Iraq in the areas controlled by him then who are they?

Most of them worked quietly underground. It's always been that way when there is a dictator. Some of the are from the old leadership families, remember these tribes had leaders that Saddam refused to recognize but that didn't mean the people forgot who and what they are.

21 posted on 07/15/2003 8:20:35 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: McGavin999
Why weren't they killed?
22 posted on 07/15/2003 8:22:02 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Because they were either smart or lucky.
23 posted on 07/15/2003 8:57:27 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: Burkeman1
Oh. OK.
24 posted on 07/15/2003 9:43:58 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: McGavin999
Are you sure?
25 posted on 07/15/2003 9:48:16 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
LOL, of course I'm sure. After all this time you should know I'm ALWAYS right ;o)
26 posted on 07/15/2003 9:53:46 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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27 posted on 07/15/2003 10:03:57 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: McGavin999
got kids. Is this PG?
28 posted on 07/15/2003 10:08:01 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Try Kurds. Try Shiites.

Try autonomous areas, under no-fly zones.

Try opening your mind.

29 posted on 07/15/2003 10:10:56 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: okie01
Try reading my posts.
30 posted on 07/15/2003 10:17:30 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Uh- how did sadaam have any power over thoses zones?
31 posted on 07/15/2003 10:20:38 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Uh- how did sadaam have any power over thoses zones?


32 posted on 07/15/2003 10:21:42 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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