Exactly what is the gay 'agenda' and 'lifestyle'?

Amarillo Globe News ^ | July 15, 2003 | Greg Sagan

[Dr Warmoose]

I'm not going to let a few nuts lead me to slander every homo in the world.

I can understand why you just shrug your shoulders about the matter, and that is OK. It probably is a good thing that you are complacent on the issue. However, homosexuality is not benign, and those who engage in it don't keep it in the bedroom - it ends up constantly being shoved in the public's face.

Granted all kinds of sexual perversion is now being mainstreamed in the media and in the schools, but it doesn't mean that good people should give up the fight when it becomes clear that this is a raging culture war.

[longtermmemmory]

contrast with heterosexuals who are in long term prisons. Inside prison these people do things they will NEVEr do outside of prison. They are not stigmatized as homosexual.

Somthing homosexuals are rushing to do to children. Stigmatize them as homosexual, force the choice when young; THEN when the choice is made lock them in the "lifestyle" with a mythical claim of genetic cause or mythical immutability. It is ALL about recruiting.

Evil must be fought, in all forms and places.

[MEGoody]

Gay agenda:

To force everyone to 'celebrate' homosexuality with us.

To recruit tender, young things into the gay community.

To change every nuance of normalcy in the American culture so that it supports perversion.

Gay lifestyle: Complete and utter identification with one's sexual 'preference', to the exclusion of all else.

[caprock]

Do I have to be gay to defend human rights?

Interesting question! Now homosexuality is a human right??? {And, some still don't believe the homosexuals have an agenda.} Posturing oneself as a defender of "human rights" is the number one sympathy acquisition tool in the liberal handbook. Find a new angle SPARKY!

The One who defines true human rights emphatically states in His Word, The Bible, that homosexuality is sin like adultery, lying, murder, stealing, etc. His Truth withstands the test of time; so, I don't anticipate any lasting, positive ramifications from today's homosexual acceptance movement.

The US has been skating on very thin ice since ROE v Wade, and I know God will not tolerate this genocide forever. If this nation adds to this atrocity by officially endorsing perversion (homosexuality included), then we are shaking our other fist in His face and demanding an immediate reckoning.

[longtermmemmory]

The article is only regugitating homosexual propaganda talking points. The author repeats myths and mere wishful thinking as fact. There are only assumptions like seuxual prefernces can not be changed away from homosexual fetishes.

This is about normalizing behavior and recuriting a new pool of deviance participants.

The author is a useful idiot, much like the democrat boob repeating USSR talking points, much like any homosexual appologist.

[gcruse]

Then let God take care of it. He created the gays, they're his problem. They're his laws, let him enforce them. /sarcasm

[r9etb]

Could it be that just being confused about one's sexual function does not define homosexuality?

There's a qualitative difference between gay advocates and "adulterers".

Those of the "gay agenda" are not at all confused about their sexuality -- they've embraced it with arms and legs, and want the rest of us to do so, as well. Their expressed goal is to change church teachings on the topic of homosexuals and marriage.

Adultery, OTOH, will still (for now, anyway) have a moral stench to it, even if it is sometimes overlooked. It's still something to be hidden.

IMHO Paul's point in Romans 1 can't be separated from Romans 2: homosexual behavior is among a host of bad things, upon which it's God's job -- not ours -- to pass judgement. In the context of this discussion, I think Romans 1 offers instruction to the church about what it should or should not bless.

[longtermmemmory]

God did not create homosexuals. Homosexuals created homosexuals, historically homosexual behavior was see as just a CHOSEN BEHAVIOR. It is only recently in the last 100 years that homosexuals were considered "born".

Humans created homosexuals, every religion condemned the behavior, it is up to humans to erase homosexuals from the species.

This can be done by finding the cause and developing a treatment. If genetic a invitro test, If homormonal a regime to prevent or treat, If a leaned behavior then knowing how to prevent the fetish from developing.

[gcruse]

Well stated. I think I'll start referring people to your post. Nothing I see makes it plainer, and once the simple facts are on the table, the usual heated discussion isn't all that necessary.

[Imagine]

Homosexuality:

Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals: 1) subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants; 2) are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large; 3) are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population; 4) molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals; 5) engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event; 6) are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination “vehicle” and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation; 7) view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.

The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals shall not be confused with the deficiencies associated with the left wing democrat/socialist/marxist/ feminist/environmentalist minds, etc., which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

[GovernmentShrinker]

41 avg lifespan without AIDS

Care to provide a source for this preposterous assertion?

[gcruse]

We know you don't like it. But some folks do, and it's their right to live life their way. As to any agenda, please see emmylou's excellent post #68.

[areeves79]

Simple solution, get rid of the gays. Send them to France or some other stupid ass country. Either that or perform some medical experiments on them.

I don't care either way, so there.

Sorry if I offend anyone, but it's an angry day

[r9etb]

Homosexuality is a chosen behavior, as is heterosexuality.

Actually performing homosexual acts is a chosen behavior. I think the underlying urge homosexuality is probably a lot more complicated than a conscious decision.

There are apparently a lot of "growing up" type psychological similarities among gay men, though. They had bad relationships with their fathers. Many of them were sexually abused. But I think there's also something innate about it.

Of course, "innate-ness" shouldn't be determinative: men who molest little girls apparently also have an innate desire to do so, and we'll hopefully never condone that.

[Dr Warmoose]

IMHO Paul's point in Romans 1 can't be separated from Romans 2: homosexual behavior is among a host of bad things, upon which it's God's job -- not ours -- to pass judgement. In the context of this discussion, I think Romans 1 offers instruction to the church about what it should or should not bless.

There is quite a difference between "judgement" and "discernment". It is our job to be fruit inspectors and to keep ourselves pure. It is also our job to name sin when we see it. (Ever heard of John the Baptist?) Also Christ and His disciples never seemed to stray away from naming sin when they saw it. Perhaps you could give your spin on the "Let your light shine" and "the salt of the world" speeches by Christ.

Saying that, I am fully aware that we are living in a world filled with sinners who are just fulfilling their job description. Many are overacheivers.

[caprock]

They're his laws, let him enforce them.

That was my point. He will "enforce" His laws. But His ways are NOT our ways; so no human can determine how or when He will effect His Justice. One should not interpret the fact that life SEEMS to progress without His just intervention as a negation of His Laws.

I do know that He is merciful and that He pursues us to establish a personal relationship with Him. This wonderful, loving relationship is established on His Terms and not ours. Obviously, those who are too arrogant, too educated, too independent, too pious, or too proud will refuse to meet Him on His terms and obtain their wish: an eternity separated from Him.

[r9etb]

Come on, by the time a person reaches puberty, he or she knows whether he/she likes boys or girls. Or did you wait until you were in your twenties before you settled on heterosexuality.

Which puts you on the "always been that way" side of the fence.

The question is, though, does "innate-ness" justify, for example, laws that abolish a distinction between heterosexual and homosexual couples for purposes of adoption or marriage?

[longtermmemmory]

People CHOOSe to be identified with a minortiy view ALL the time. Punk rockers dress differently despite the ridicule.

All your arguments are pablum used by those argunng for the false homosexual gene theory.

Now that the homosexual gene is being discredited, the new theory de jour is kinship theory. In other words, the homosexuals are jsut part to the "Village" used to raise your children. (do you even have children?)


Why don't they change back? Because the Gaystapo has told them there is no way out. Once you have had homosexual sex you are not allowed to say you are a heterosexual. (hogwash change is do-able and more than just possible)


All the more reason to keep teenagers AWAY from homosexuals. Children must be given proper examples and not expose them to homosexual recruiting lessons of GLSEN or GLAD.

Homosexuality is a fetish. People overcome fetishes all the time. (smokers overcome their addiction) People like you just need to extract you head and see the light that the homopropaganda is not correct and stop with the notion that homosexuality is a permanent behavior.