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THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: THEN AND NOW -- When I Joined It And When It Left Me
Iconoclast.ca ^ | R. Bastiat

Posted on 07/18/2003 4:52:33 AM PDT by BurkesLaw

Perhaps it was always a self-serving illusion, and the Democrats were never anything more than the power-hungry, predatory coalition of insatiable appetites -- competing for government funds and favors -- that they have become today.....

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Best recruiting source for the Republican Party? Today's Democratic Party.
1 posted on 07/18/2003 4:52:34 AM PDT by BurkesLaw
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To: All

Let's keep the Dem's on the run!
Click the Pic!

2 posted on 07/18/2003 4:54:02 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: BurkesLaw
The link didn't work for me.
3 posted on 07/18/2003 4:56:49 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: BurkesLaw
I knew the Democrat party no longer represented me when I heard a party leader describe the party core as the following catagories, homosexual, on welfare, out of work, immigrant, black, hispanic, enviromentalist,feminist, pro-gun control. Not a work was spoken about working men and women raising a family.
The latter is the party I grew up with. I hope this hodge podge of special interest groups chokes the Democrat party like a weed.
4 posted on 07/18/2003 5:11:53 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: BurkesLaw
Perhaps it was always a self-serving illusion, and the Democrats were never anything more than the power-hungry, predatory coalition of insatiable appetites -- competing for government funds and favors -- that they have become today
It is more insidious than that. The Democrats have always been the party for the poor, for the dependent, for the oppressed, and for the downtrodden. As such, they have always had a vested interest in persuing policies which would maximize poverty, dependency, oppression and misery.
5 posted on 07/18/2003 5:16:24 AM PDT by William McKinley (No thank you please, it only makes me sneeze)
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To: Bahbah
I won't bother with the link. The Iconoclast site takes forever to load.

I'll just wait for somebody to post the full text, the way people always used to around here.

6 posted on 07/18/2003 5:19:54 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BurkesLaw
The Dems left decent America with the McGovernite takeover back in '72. Why does it take so many so long to wake up to that fact?
7 posted on 07/18/2003 5:25:54 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: hellinahandcart
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: THEN AND NOW -- When I Joined It And When It Left Me

Like my father and his father before him, I was a registered Democrat for most of my adult life, along with just about every other blood relative and in-laws and friends and neighbors from my youth. This was not a trivial matter. I was a member of two AFL-CIO labor unions earlier in my life. And in my working class neighborhood, being a Democrat was more than just a registration; it was an identity, an avowal of principle, and a statement of where we stood -- for the little guy, the common man, prosperity, progress, uncompromising free expression, and personal integrity.

At the grass roots level, we worked at registering voters and getting them to the polls, and at one time I was a precinct captain and a delegate to the national Young Democrats convention. Growing up, I didn't even know any Republicans, but I knew in my bones what they stood for: wealth, power, privilege, snobbery, and bigotry. At the university I attended, the term "Young Republican" was an oxymoron.

I first registered as a Democrat many years ago, as soon as I attained voting age. And if I hadn't recently moved to a state that does not provide for registration by political party, I would probably still be a registered Democrat, because that status has always defined who I am. But whom I vote for is a different matter. If Democrats want my vote, they have to earn it like anyone else. Looking at the rhetoric and actions of the current Democratic crowd, I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Either the Democrats changed or I did, or maybe my perceptions back in the 1960s were just a fantasy. You be the judge. Each line of the table below summarizes a policy reversal that seems to me to have taken place between then and now.

WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY STOOD FOR . . .

(1) Before & During Kennedy Era ................. (2) During and After Clinton Era

Free speech .................................................. Political correctness, censorship
Free trade ..................................................... Protectionism disguised as labor & environmental standards
Low taxes ...................................................... High taxes
Tax cuts ......................................................... Tax increases Economic growth .......................................... Environmental obstruction
A competitive economy ................................ An over-regulated command-and-control economy
Equal opportunity ......................................... Equal outcomes, group entitlements
Equality under the law, racial harmony .......... Race-conscious "remedies," identity politics
Strong defense .............................................. Reflexively anti-military ideology
Individual responsibility ................................ Collective guilt, blaming society
Suspicion of power ....................................... Centralized power
Rule by the common man ............................ Rule by elites Bowling, baseball, and auto racing ............. NPR, PBS, & the National Endowment for the Arts
Hunting and fishing .......................................Gun control & animal rights
Beer and burgers .... ..................................... Brie and Beaujolais
The little guy .................................................. Rich wheeler dealers
Honest government ...................................... Influence peddling
Personal integrity ......................................... Slickness and sleaze
Public integrity ............................................. Solicitation of bribes, general corruption
Investigate the bad guys .............................. Cover it up & attack the investigators
Working people ........................................... Favors for fat-cat donors & union leaders
Middle-class consumers .............................. Billionaire trial lawyers
Risk and opportunity ................................... Safety and security
Individual liberty, voluntarism .................... Group rights, coercive utopias
Parental responsibility ................................. It takes a village

It seems to me that the left-hand column is where I always stood and what, mistakenly or not, I identified with the Democrats. The right-hand column is what I saw the party turning into during the '70s, '80s, and '90s, and it remains so today -- no longer recognizable as the one I joined in an earlier era. In fact, I'm beginning to doubt that the Democratic Party I see today ever could have stood for what I've listed in the left-hand column. Is that column faulty memory or wishful thinking, or am I just lying to myself that it was ever that way? Perhaps it was always a self-serving illusion, and the Democrats were never anything more than the power-hungry, predatory coalition of insatiable appetites -- competing for government funds and favors -- that they have become today.

At least in my mind, I never left the Democratic Party of my youth -- it left me, and probably well before the advent of the Clintons made me fully aware of it. The only question that interests me now is how long ago that happened.

8 posted on 07/18/2003 5:33:58 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Over-achiever extraordinare!)
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To: Bahbah
ping to #8.
9 posted on 07/18/2003 5:35:05 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Over-achiever extraordinare!)
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To: hellinahandcart

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: THEN AND NOW
-- When I Joined It And When It Left Me




by R. Bastiat

Like my father and his father before him, I was a registered Democrat for most of my adult life, along with just about every other blood relative and in-laws and friends and neighbors from my youth. This was not a trivial matter. I was a member of two AFL-CIO labor unions earlier in my life. And in my working class neighborhood, being a Democrat was more than just a registration; it was an identity, an avowal of principle, and a statement of where we stood -- for the little guy, the common man, prosperity, progress, uncompromising free expression, and personal integrity.

At the grass roots level, we worked at registering voters and getting them to the polls, and at one time I was a precinct captain and a delegate to the national Young Democrats convention. Growing up, I didn't even know any Republicans, but I knew in my bones what they stood for: wealth, power, privilege, snobbery, and bigotry. At the university I attended, the term "Young Republican" was an oxymoron.

I first registered as a Democrat many years ago, as soon as I attained voting age. And if I hadn't recently moved to a state that does not provide for registration by political party, I would probably still be a registered Democrat, because that status has always defined who I am. But whom I vote for is a different matter. If Democrats want my vote, they have to earn it like anyone else. Looking at the rhetoric and actions of the current Democratic crowd, I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Either the Democrats changed or I did, or maybe my perceptions back in the 1960s were just a fantasy. You be the judge. Each line of the table below summarizes a policy reversal that seems to me to have taken place between then and now.

WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY STOOD FOR . . .

(1) Before & During Kennedy Era ................. (2) During and After Clinton Era


Free speech .................................................. Political correctness, censorship
Free trade ..................................................... Protectionism disguised as labor & environmental standards
Low taxes ...................................................... High taxes
Tax cuts ......................................................... Tax increases
Small business ............................................... Big business, crony capitalism
Economic growth .......................................... Environmental obstruction
A competitive economy ................................ An over-regulated command-and-control economy
Equal opportunity ......................................... Equal outcomes, group entitlements
Equality under the law, racial harmony .......... Race-conscious "remedies," identity politics
Strong defense .............................................. Reflexively anti-military ideology
Individual responsibility ................................ Collective guilt, blaming society
Suspicion of power ....................................... Centralized power
Rule by the common man ............................ Rule by elites
Bowling, baseball, and auto racing ............. NPR, PBS, & the National Endowment for the Arts
Hunting and fishing .......................................Gun control & animal rights
Beer and burgers .... ..................................... Brie and Beaujolais
The little guy .................................................. Rich wheeler dealers
Honest government ...................................... Influence peddling
Personal integrity ......................................... Slickness and sleaze
Public integrity ............................................. Solicitation of bribes, general corruption
Investigate the bad guys .............................. Cover it up & attack the investigators
Working people ........................................... Favors for fat-cat donors & union leaders
Middle-class consumers .............................. Billionaire trial lawyers
Risk and opportunity ................................... Safety and security
Individual liberty, voluntarism .................... Group rights, coercive utopias
Parental responsibility ................................. It takes a village


It seems to me that the left-hand column is where I always stood and what, mistakenly or not, I identified with the Democrats. The right-hand column is what I saw the party turning into during the '70s, '80s, and '90s, and it remains so today -- no longer recognizable as the one I joined in an earlier era. In fact, I'm beginning to doubt that the Democratic Party I see today ever could have stood for what I've listed in the left-hand column. Is that column faulty memory or wishful thinking, or am I just lying to myself that it was ever that way? Perhaps it was always a self-serving illusion, and the Democrats were never anything more than the power-hungry, predatory coalition of insatiable appetites -- competing for government funds and favors -- that they have become today.

At least in my mind, I never left the Democratic Party of my youth -- it left me, and probably well before the advent of the Clintons made me fully aware of it. The only question that interests me now is how long ago that happened.




10 posted on 07/18/2003 5:35:30 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: William McKinley
"As such, they have always had a vested
interest in persuing policies which would maximize poverty, dependency, oppression and misery." EXCELLENT!! May I quote you in letters to the editor?
I am forwarding your statement to the RNC. That will fit in nicely with someone's campaign speech!
11 posted on 07/18/2003 5:36:19 AM PDT by Winfield
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To: 4mycountry
Thank you. :)
12 posted on 07/18/2003 5:37:15 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: vannrox
You too!
13 posted on 07/18/2003 5:38:18 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: BurkesLaw
The Democratic Party is a criminal organization posing as a political party.
14 posted on 07/18/2003 5:39:15 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Winfield
Feel free.
15 posted on 07/18/2003 5:39:32 AM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: hellinahandcart
I posted this article yesterday. It sums up how I feel about the Dem Party. I am a former Dem. Here is the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948070/posts

I messed up the table-didn't post it properly, but it is readable. LOL
16 posted on 07/18/2003 5:39:59 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Thanks.
17 posted on 07/18/2003 5:43:10 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: nyconse
Thanks.
18 posted on 07/18/2003 5:43:33 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I'll just wait for somebody to post the full text, the way people always used to around here.

Agreed ... it's most annoying.

19 posted on 07/18/2003 5:53:23 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BurkesLaw
Excellent analyisis. Bookmarked for future converts.
20 posted on 07/18/2003 6:02:32 AM PDT by drc43
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To: BluH2o
Yes.

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21 posted on 07/18/2003 6:04:14 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox
Impressive Archives - bump for later.
22 posted on 07/18/2003 6:20:36 AM PDT by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops!)
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To: 4mycountry
Grover Cleveland was the last Democrat that could read, understand and respect the Constitution, let alone honor his oath to protect and defend it. The socialists took control of the Democratic Party in the early thirties; there have been no leaders in the Democratic Party since who have followed the Constitution. Most have done their best to subvert it, and they have been far too successful. Now Republicans, including Bush, are willing to subvert the Constitution if they believe that it will help them gain re-election.

There is a way to Make a Difference!

23 posted on 07/18/2003 6:26:09 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: William McKinley
It is more insidious than that. The Democrats have always been the party for the poor, for the dependent, for the oppressed, and for the downtrodden. As such, they have always had a vested interest in persuing policies which would maximize poverty, dependency, oppression and misery.

You summed it up more pointedly than I have heard it put in some time. Kudos!

One of the best reads on the subject is Thomas Sowell's book, "The Vision of the Anointed"--highly recommended.

24 posted on 07/18/2003 6:30:37 AM PDT by randita
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To: BurkesLaw
Wrong-o.

BFD, that Formerly Democrat White Men see the light and at least switch their vote, if not their party affiliation. The Demos more than make up for this defection with very successful efforts among women(from 50% up to 60% among white women in any election); and anywhere from 75-95% among groups like younger voters, minorities, special interests, legal and illegal immigrants, and of course their most faithful constituencies, the dead and the absent. The more sensible guys who jump the rotten ship, the more the land 'Rats become determined to stay aboard and increase their numbers, by any means fair and mostly foul.

And as their Ace-in-the-Hole, they are running vote-fraud-scams in the big states that are absolutely blinding in their audacity and technical skill.

Donna Brazile said it all for the Democrats, "Just get me close,Baby; I'll do the rest."

25 posted on 07/18/2003 7:07:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: BurkesLaw
bump
26 posted on 07/18/2003 7:15:30 AM PDT by foreverfree
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