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Congressman Billybob Sez: Sixteen Little Words
Billybob's website ^ | 18 July 2003 | Congressman Billybob (J. Armor, Esq.)

Posted on 07/18/2003 6:07:08 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob; Gritty
Wow! You really are going to kick Taylor's sorry butt out of office. What can I do to help?
41 posted on 07/21/2003 10:11:03 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Copernicus
Does it also distress you that those 16 words were also quite accurate?
42 posted on 07/21/2003 10:30:20 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Copernicus
"Into this honorable lineage enters ... a man who willfully refuses to correctly pronounce "Nuclear" in every public venue..."

Uh, "Genius", that should be "nuclear" (lower case). And I'm far more concerned about a president or first lady or vice president who willfully refuses to speak the truth at every public venue.

43 posted on 07/21/2003 6:22:45 PM PDT by Nevermore
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To: Tribune7
I was up until 3:15 a.m. this morning, tracking down real figures on attacks, sabotage and casualties in Germany after WW II. Finally found the records for VII Corps (Patton's unit). Sent the info to Jerry Agar on-air in Raleigh, who's temporarily filling in for their morning man. He broke the story this morning.

John / Billybob

44 posted on 07/21/2003 6:37:43 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: MEGoody
Does it also distress you that those 16 words were also quite accurate?

In the context of this discussion accuracy is hardly relevant.

Congressman BillyBob posits the insignificance of 16 little words out of thousands, I posit the status quo pre-emptive surrender incompetence displayed whenever a Republican is challenged by the nitwittery of the left.

To prove the accuracy of a statement in the context of ridiculing your opponent into silence would be a useful technique.

Perhaps someone will teach Karl Rove the technique before President "Read my lips, no new tyranny" loses his shot at a second term.

Best regards,

45 posted on 07/21/2003 6:47:56 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I was up until 3:15 a.m. this morning, tracking down real figures on attacks, sabotage and casualties in Germany after WW II. Finally found the records for VII Corps (Patton's unit). Sent the info to Jerry Agar on-air in Raleigh, who's temporarily filling in for their morning man. He broke the story this morning.

So are you just going to drive us crazy or are you going to inform us good folk who don't live anywhere near Raleigh what they are?

I'm going to guess that the number of deaths is about 600.

46 posted on 07/21/2003 7:06:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
So far, I've only been able to get the data for VII Corps, which was only part of the American occupation of Germany, which as you recall was divided into four sectors -- American, British, French and Russian. But here are the conclusions:

1. The US had about the same number of troops in Germany after WW II as it now has in Iraq. (That makes comparisons very easy.)

2. If VII Corps (Patton's unit) was typical of the other units, the US suffered the same casualties, meaning both wounded and killed, by enemy action in Germany then, as it is in Iraq today. And the casualties continued at about the same rate for almost a year.

3. The nature of sabotage in Germany was different -- US communications depended on transmission over wires strung on poles, and those were the primary target -- but the number of acts of sabotage were about the same.

4. Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, created the "Werewolves" just before Germany fell. It used recruits as young as 12 to carry out armed attacks on Americans, and others. About half the attacks, however, were by German soldiers and some foreigners who entered the country to carry out such attacks. These were not organized centrally.

5. Most people belived until December, 1945, that Hitler might still be alive and encouraging the attacks. General Eisenhower was still under standing orders to "capture Hitler." There were rumors that Hitler was operating out of Bavaria, or Argentina, among others. Documents captured in December finally pinned down the suicide of Hitler and Eva Braun and the burning of their bodies outside the Bunker, in May, 1945.

6. Neither the New York Times nor any other major American news outlet said of Germany in 1945-46 that the US was "in a quagmire," or that the losses "were excessive," or that the American people were growing "tired of the losses," or that the war "might not have been justified." In short, the differences between 1945-46 and 2003-2004 are not in the facts on the ground, but solely in how the press is reacting to the facts on the ground.

You will, no doubt, see that every paragraph above from the history of US soldiers in Germany after WW II is a nearly identical parallel to the current situation in Iraq. If these facts are dug out and finally reported, putting the German occupation side by side with the Iraq one, it will be another battle for truth that began on the Internet, and I am the person who fired the first shot in that battle.

Congressman Billybob

P.S. I hope that satisfactorily answers your questions. If your estimate of 600 casualties then includes wounded, it is slightly high. If it is deaths only, it is way high.

47 posted on 07/21/2003 7:26:12 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
If these facts are dug out and finally reported, putting the German occupation side by side with the Iraq one, it will be another battle for truth that began on the Internet, and I am the person who fired the first shot in that battle.

bump

48 posted on 07/21/2003 7:33:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Nevermore
Uh, "Genius", that should be "nuclear" (lower case). And I'm far more concerned about a president or first lady or vice president who willfully refuses to speak the truth at every public venue.

Interesting. In the smoldering wreck of your Republican Brain you discover standards and values. Cherish those thoughts.

Tomorrow my problem will be solved with a better spell/grammar checker.

Tomorrow you will remain a member of the Republican Party(motto: we not only quit, we advance the Fabian Soviet Socialist agenda before, during and after our capitulation) Who has the bigger problem?

This notion the current President is superior to the previous President because of some (few) virtues borders on ludicrous.

It is preferable to deal with a burglar rather than a strong arm robber, rapist or molester, but all should be avoided in business deals and certainly should not be left in charge of national affairs under any circumstances.

The Republicans had an opportunity to beat Clintigula fair and square in 1996. They blew it.

They had another opportunity to remove him from office in 1998 and blew it again.

They came within a hair of losing the Y2K election and now after nearly three years of relentless idiocy we hear the same sad song: Support Bush and the Republicans or the Republic will go to hell in a handbasket.

Newsflash: The Republic IS in HELL with or without a handbasket.

One more good sucker punch and the thin veneer of civilization will peel off this society like a cheap composite entry door facing the noon day sun.

Sleep well.

Best regards,

49 posted on 07/22/2003 6:25:47 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Explorer89
Excellent article.
50 posted on 07/22/2003 7:51:19 AM PDT by MrConfettiMan (These pretzels are making me thirsty.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
. Most people belived until December, 1945, that Hitler might still be alive and encouraging the attacks. General Eisenhower was still under standing orders to "capture Hitler." There were rumors that Hitler was operating out of Bavaria, or Argentina, among others. Documents captured in December finally pinned down the suicide of Hitler and Eva Braun and the burning of their bodies outside the Bunker, in May, 1945.

According to Heinrich Muller, chief of Gestapo and employed by the US intelligence after the war, Hitler escaped with Eva Braun, left the burned double behind in the bunker. Muller helped with flight via Switzerland. He also provided much material about communists to CIA.

51 posted on 07/22/2003 5:49:35 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: xzins
I'm seriously PO'd at the press (including FoxNews)

I turned Fox off in disgust a few weeks ago, but happened to turn it on early this morning -- before the news about the devil's sons being killed -- and they were actually being somewhat apologetic about their constant harping on the deaths of U.S. soldiers in Iraq, saying that they would be dishonoring our troops' sacrifice if they didn't report it. The Baghdad reporter repeated the theme, and even listed a few "good things" that were going on before he launched into the latest casualty count.

It doesn't make up for Fox's doom and gloom herd mentality for the past month (and the fact that they really don't go looking for any positive stories) but it does indicate that viewers' complaints (and maybe a fall in viewership) is having some impact.

52 posted on 07/22/2003 6:36:48 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Congressman Billybob
Somebody needs to write the book about this, might as well be you. I'm a candidate for buying it.

I still remember the 1963 Readers Digest article speculating that Hitler was alive and well in South America...........there is a long tail to speculation and rumors.
53 posted on 07/23/2003 8:34:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Congressman Billybob
CLINTON ON LARRY KING 7/22/03: "It is incontestable that on
the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of
biological and chemical weapons."
54 posted on 07/23/2003 5:52:24 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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CLINTON ON LARRY KING 7/22/03: "It is incontestable that on
the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of
biological and chemical weapons."
55 posted on 07/23/2003 5:58:03 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Gee, I detect a pattern in your article. Reminds me of my teenaged son, for some reason....
56 posted on 07/23/2003 6:01:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'm just reading this. Well written, but...

Logic and facts in a well reasoned argument cause liberals/democRATS/socialist anxiety. Off to the re-education camp for you.

5.56mm

57 posted on 07/23/2003 6:01:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Copernicus
Piffle
59 posted on 07/24/2003 12:42:19 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Congressman Billybob
As I see it, Rice and Fleischer fumbled this ball. As a result, the administration has been playing defence in its own territory ever since.
60 posted on 07/24/2003 1:09:56 PM PDT by RobbyS
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