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Activists train to live in trees to halt Bush logging plans
Detroit News ^ | July 19, 2003 | Mark Matthews

Posted on 07/19/2003 3:07:23 AM PDT by fightinJAG

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

HUGHES CREEK CAMPGROUND, Mont. -- David Muller hunkered down and watched as an instructor tied a timber hitch around three 20-foot logs. Soon Muller would be practicing knot tying himself, and compass reading and tree climbing. The 56-year-old bookseller from Alaska was in training, not as an outdoorsman but as a political activist.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; envirowhackos; logging
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1 posted on 07/19/2003 3:07:23 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
The glamour activity in camp is tree climbing. Meredith Jefferson, a recent graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, practiced coiling the end of a rope to form a weighted bullet that she then tossed over the branch of a tree.

But doesn't this cause the tree to recoil in pain?

2 posted on 07/19/2003 3:08:51 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
Maybe a RICO action was cause them to recoil in pain.
3 posted on 07/19/2003 3:23:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: fightinJAG
"One of the most empowering things you can do is to know that you can effect change when you sit in a tree or blockade a road," she said.

Couch potatato devolves to monkey.

4 posted on 07/19/2003 3:24:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: fightinJAG
The 56-year-old bookseller from Alaska

Not to insult anyone from the last frontier, but there's a brilliant career choice for you.

5 posted on 07/19/2003 3:24:15 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: fightinJAG
cut down the tree and let the chips (and activist) fall where they may!
6 posted on 07/19/2003 3:26:13 AM PDT by SoggyBottomBoy
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To: farmfriend
fyi
7 posted on 07/19/2003 3:28:21 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: fightinJAG
If this is all we're up against, we've won. Unfortunately this is not all we're up against.
9 posted on 07/19/2003 3:37:17 AM PDT by Salman
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To: fightinJAG
They should be ordered off the trees (which are private property after they are sold for logging) and then arrested for tresspassing if they do not comply.

State police should be having tree climbing classes at the same time these idiots are getting theirs.

10 posted on 07/19/2003 3:38:05 AM PDT by mfulstone
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To: fightinJAG; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

11 posted on 07/19/2003 3:41:03 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: fightinJAG
Maybe as a bit of repayment for those who lost their homes due to the stupid environmental policies of the past, we could bring them in and give them a rifle and take a shot at these morons.

It won't bring their houses back, but it sure would feel good.

12 posted on 07/19/2003 3:44:24 AM PDT by TomB
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To: fightinJAG
I gotta say it, Geez, you would think Muller would have learned by now that it ain't real smart standing in front of a bulldozer!
13 posted on 07/19/2003 3:51:03 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!!
14 posted on 07/19/2003 3:54:54 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: countrydummy
You're no "dummy," that's for sure!
15 posted on 07/19/2003 4:00:05 AM PDT by fightinJAG ("Saddam is gone! A man cured of cancer does not complain about a common cold.")
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To: mfulstone
Or maybe the state police could train large cats to climb up the trees and snarl at the protestrs.

16 posted on 07/19/2003 4:06:17 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Contra238
Eeeeewwwww.

That sounds like an environmental hazard to me.
17 posted on 07/19/2003 4:07:10 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
I try not to be, at least I know not to get in front of a bulldozer! lol lol
18 posted on 07/19/2003 4:10:26 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: countrydummy
yeah, what is this with getting in front of bulldozers. Like that girl who got killed in Israel.

Just sad.
19 posted on 07/19/2003 4:13:59 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: SoggyBottomBoy
Watch out, tree sitters, Bush is coming for ya!!!


20 posted on 07/19/2003 4:15:47 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Your request is not unlike your lower intestine. Stinky and full of danger.)
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To: mfulstone
"They should be ordered off the trees (which are private property after they are sold for logging) and then arrested for tresspassing if they do not comply."

Well, I think the point is that the trees they want to "protect" are on gov't property (now, whether gov't should have ANY property other than that small amount defined in the Constitution is a whole other matter).

Nonetheless--the correct response to these tree-sitters is to go in and cut down all the trees except the one they are sitting in, go away until they climb down in disgust, and then come back and cut THAT one down.

21 posted on 07/19/2003 4:16:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Contra238
"..the worst part is where these kids go to the bathroom. It can get ugly around those trees..."

Well, the TREES probably love it. After all, it's just more fertilizer.

22 posted on 07/19/2003 4:17:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: fightinJAG
"One of the most empowering things you can do is to know that you can effect change when you sit in a tree or blockade a road," she said.

Another "unside-downism" from the kooks on the commune. In fact, they are attempting to prevent change, not effect it.

23 posted on 07/19/2003 4:31:08 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: fightinJAG
A fast moving crown fire might be just the ticket.
24 posted on 07/19/2003 5:02:11 AM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words wriiten will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: CholeraJoe
Pinging...
25 posted on 07/19/2003 5:13:22 AM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: Wonder Warthog
What is this small amount of goverment property defined in the constitution?? The properties exist in the name of "The People of the United States". The government "manages" it.
26 posted on 07/19/2003 5:14:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: fightinJAG
In conversations around the camp, many here speak with a fervor and invoke the names of their role models - Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che, Pol Pot, Lenin, Trotsky...
27 posted on 07/19/2003 5:19:10 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Sacajaweau
"What is this small amount of goverment property defined in the constitution?? The properties exist in the name of "The People of the United States". The government "manages" it."

Basically, the Federal government is only supposed to own the District of Columbia, and various military (and similar)installations. I don't recall the exact language and I'm too lazy to look it up this early on a weekend. I do know that there is ZIP in it about "national parks, national forests" and all the rest of the so-called "federal land". In my opinion, ALL of these lands should be the property of the states in which they are located, and should be turned over to them.

"Federal land" is turning into just another socialist boondoggle.

28 posted on 07/19/2003 5:32:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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29 posted on 07/19/2003 5:34:25 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: fightinJAG
He wants to protect the trees. Do you think he'll stay in his seat when the forest fires due to undercutting and low road maintenance come?
30 posted on 07/19/2003 5:44:15 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Federal land came about as each of the Colonial States ceded all their lands west of their borders. There is a very early map showing the proposed division of those remaining lands into future states as well as the rules for their division. Lands that were not "bought" or "retained" remained Federal lands within a state. In some cases, the Federal government couldn't "give them away".
31 posted on 07/19/2003 6:36:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: fightinJAG
The glamour activity in camp is tree climbing. Meredith Jefferson, a recent graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, practiced coiling the end of a rope to form a weighted bullet that she then tossed over the branch of a tree.

But doesn't this cause the tree to recoil in pain?
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No, but I'll bet it caused her parents a lot of pain.

-"Now, mama, don't cry. It'll be all right..." (pat,pat,pat)

-(sobbing) "Oh, papa, I can't believe this! We scrimped and saved to send Meredith through all those years of collage and this is how she thanks us? Going and sitting in a tree?? Oh, papa!" (sobbing anew)

-"There, there, mama...it'll be all right..."

32 posted on 07/19/2003 6:56:14 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Sacajaweau
"Federal land came about as each of the Colonial States ceded all their lands west of their borders. There is a very early map showing the proposed division of those remaining lands into future states as well as the rules for their division. Lands that were not "bought" or "retained" remained Federal lands within a state. In some cases, the Federal government couldn't "give them away"."

All true, as the original goal was to provide an orderly process TO TRANSFER THAT LAND TO STATE AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP (i.e. Federal control was assumed to be temporary). However, that all changed in the early 1900's with the contamination of US political philosophy with European socialist notions, and now the goal appears to be for the Federal government to retain all the land that remains under its control and to obtain as much more as quickly as possible (i.e Federal control is now assumed to be permanent). This is INCREDIBLY dangerous.

The Fedgov should be required to transfer ALL the rest of the lands to either state or private ownership, with the exceptions as originally stated in the Constitution.

33 posted on 07/19/2003 6:58:10 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Arkie2
A fast moving crown fire might be just the ticket.

Or a stray shot.

34 posted on 07/19/2003 7:27:13 AM PDT by Noumenon (Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: fightinJAG
FJ, Here's hoping their "teachers" are highly incompetent. Embicilism is already
evidenced. Peace and love, George.
35 posted on 07/19/2003 7:31:24 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: fightinJAG
Do these people ever work?
36 posted on 07/19/2003 7:31:27 AM PDT by lonestar (Driving school is out of the question for Weinie!)
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To: farmfriend; KLT; hellinahandcart; countrydummy
Ping!
37 posted on 07/19/2003 7:51:56 AM PDT by sauropod ("Come over here and make me. I dare you. You little fruitcake, you little fruitcake.")
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Sure I've heard of tree huggers but hadn't ever actually seen one until now.

National Forest Protection Alliance/Greenpeace Forest Action Camp June, 2003 Bitteroot National Forest

38 posted on 07/19/2003 8:10:29 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: fightinJAG
"What's that up the tree? Is that a greenie whacko staked out?"

Buzzzzzzzzzzzz.............zrrrrrrrrrrrrr........"TIM-BERRRR"!

Memorial services for the greenie whacko will be held Saturday, somewhere in Germany.

The tree can be viewed later at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Johnson in the form of a beautiful bedroom set.

39 posted on 07/19/2003 10:30:39 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Noumenon
Dang officer, I thought it was a squirrel! Honest!
40 posted on 07/19/2003 11:01:05 AM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words wriiten will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: Arkie2
A big, hairy, nasty-smelling one, but a squirrel nontheless. And that's one of the females.
41 posted on 07/19/2003 11:04:01 AM PDT by Noumenon (Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: fightinJAG
What about allowing a hungry pine martin a chance to snack on grainola fed freak? The animal possibilities are endless. Even S. American tree vipers might be useful.

This could be a source of employment for out of work biologists. Put that way (Job Corps for Biologists!) the Libs might even sign on.

And think of the free market implications - one can easily imagine a Whack-Em-Out corporation competing with Wackenhut for tree clearing jobs. I refer, of course to clearing the trees of freaks, not cutting the trees.
42 posted on 07/19/2003 11:05:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: Arkie2
My thoughts exactly.
43 posted on 07/19/2003 11:11:42 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: fightinJAG
BTTT
44 posted on 07/19/2003 12:10:54 PM PDT by hattend
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To: fightinJAG
They know that some critics refer to them as "eco-terrorists" but say they do not want violence. "We're peaceful people," said Tamara Avery, a member of the Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians of Oregon. "We're peaceful people, here to protect the Earth."

Yeah, sure, whatever....


45 posted on 07/19/2003 12:15:17 PM PDT by hattend
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To: SoggyBottomBoy
My sentiments too, but might I suggest places where all those black bears can be temporarily relocated?

Then, after these criminals and terrorists have repented, one way or another, a hunting season on black bears.

46 posted on 07/19/2003 12:20:33 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: fightinJAG
ROTFLOL! These people are really desperate.
47 posted on 07/19/2003 12:49:38 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: fightinJAG
Primates in trees??

No problemo.
48 posted on 07/19/2003 1:40:26 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: fightinJAG
I wish they came around here. I would love firing up my Homelite at 3AM just to see look on their face when they jumped out of the tree.

Tossing water out of a gascan all over the tree trunk and playing with my Zippo might be fun too.
49 posted on 07/19/2003 1:40:38 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: BigWaveBetty
The standard measure to establish the size of a tree that can and should be cut is to hug it.
If your fingers touch on the far side, paint it, log it
(no pun intended[actually it is intended]) and go find another.
50 posted on 07/19/2003 6:15:30 PM PDT by sasquatch
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