Huh? That's a news still, not a movie still?
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Posted on 07/19/2003 4:26:32 PM PDT by Anthem
The reputation of comic book super heroes is more important to the Hollywood elite than the reputation of the real-life heroes in the US military.
This sorry state of affairs is exemplified by Avi Arad, the very rich owner of Marvel Studios which makes movies based on popular Marvel comic-book characters like the Hulk. Arad told a USA Today reporter that he ordered an early version of the script for last year's very successful Spiderman movie changed because Spiderman slit someone's throat. ("Marvel's Chief: a force outside, 'a kid inside'" by Scott Bowles, USA Today, Life Section, June 5, 2003) Arad said he took this action because he was afraid the spectacle of Spiderman killing someone on the big screen would ruin the comic book character's image.
While it's refreshing to see a Hollywood mogul forcing script writers to make his heroes act like real heroes (in an honorable way), it is sad that Arad doesn't give the real-life heroes in the US military the same respect he gives his comic book superstars.
Another of Arad's big budget productions is "X-2: X-Men United" which portrayed the US military as Nazi type thugs. In that movie, US soldiers terrorize a school full of unarmed children, in one scene shooting a boy with a dart gun, then haul the children off in helicopters (in a scene designed to look like a Vietnam War attack) to a secret base where they are thrown in a dungeon. The bad guy's leader is described as a military scientist, a colonel and a Vietnam veteran who performs cruel and inhumane experiments on innocent people including his son. The plot revolves around this individual's desire to stage a fake terrorist attack on the White House so he can receive presidential permission to carry out a policy of genocide.
There it is folks: Hollywood's set of values described in a nutshell. The good people who run our entertainment industry don't give a darn about America or its military. Yet they care about comic book super heroes.
What's even more disturbing is Avi Arad's background. He isn't some sniveling brat who grew up in an exclusive suburb and went to film school on daddy's money. No, Arad is an authentic American success story, an Israeli immigrant who put himself through college by driving a truck. Arad is also a veteran of the Israeli Army who was so badly wounded in the Six Day War that he spent months in a hospital recuperating.("Marvel's chief: a force outside, 'a kid inside,' USA Today, Life Section, June 5, 2003)
You would think that a man like Arad would see the X-Men United script for the abomination that it is and kill it. As an Israeli Jew, Arad is probably all too aware of the fact that he is only alive today because of the actions of the US military in World War II. Yet Arad goes right along with the Hollywood mentality.
If appeals to patriotism and common sense can't get through to rich Hollywood types, then perhaps this line of logic will. According to USA Today, X-Men United has grossed $262 million at the box office. Last year's Spiderman which glorified old fashioned heroics grossed a little over $400 million.
Perhaps, the sick plot line of X-Men United (which was ignored by the media and film critics) is responsible for this difference in the gross. Hopefully, Mr. Arad and his cohorts will dwell on this fact because money is all they seem to care about.
I have nothing against comic books. I'm a major comic book fan from way back. I wish that the producers and writers of things like X-Men United would act like the classic comic book writers of the 1960s and 70s by using their imagination to come up with entertaining and exciting stories that don't involve nutty conspiracy theories and trash America. I also wish that they would demonstrate respect for the intelligence and values of average Americans. Perhaps then average Americans would learn to respect Hollywood and the people who run it again.
Daniel G. Jennings is a freelance writer and journalist who lives and works in Denver, CO. He has worked as a reporter and editor for daily and weekly newspapers in five states.
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Any sensible person can see that the reason the U.S. MILITARY must be the "enemies" here is precisely because they use "stun guns," and that no other scenario would work: Arab terrorists would kill the mutants and be done with it. Even the evil Magneto doesn't want to kill everyone---merely to make them all mutants like him, sort of like the "stars on thars."
Anyway, if you read the old Lee-Kirby comics---the Fantastic Four, Spiderman (Lee/Ditko), X-Men, and Avengers---the army was always there to protect the people, but it was relatively helpless against people with superpowers. Constantly, the FF would show up and tell a captain to get his men out of the area, and the FF would handle the baddie. Regular U.S. military units were seldom in a plot where they attacked the FF or the Avengers unless duped by some evildoer like the "Hate Monger."
Bottom line, the movie is a tiny snippet of the story, and the writer can make his point only by taking the movie out of the context of the entire series.
It's a freaking movie. What a moron.
Yes, how dare comics or movies portray any authority figure in a bad light. It must be part of a vast Hollywood / comic industry conspiracy to undermine America! Where's Dr. Wertham when you need him?
Ask your ol' man what this means in the metaphoric art of left wing Hollywood.
It just dawned on me ... most comic-book villains are unattractive or deformed. The left-wing comic industry cabal must be trying to tell me that ugly people are evil!
Seriously, though, I pointed out in my first post that the plot of X2 was lifted from a nearly 20-year-old comic, not the imagination of a left-wing Hollywood screenwriter. So if you have a problem with the movie's plot, blame Chris Claremont.
Furthermore, I'm well aware of political stereotypes in Hollywood movies -- I sat through "The Contender," for God's sake. But, you see, just because I see a movie doesn't mean I buy into its underlying premise. Like most rational adults, I can discern messages in movies and decide for myself whether they're good or bad.
If there were a school for gifted children in New York that armed the students with full-automatic assault rifles and had a doomsday atomic bomb capable of killing over half the population of the world in the basement, you better believe I'd support a milary raid. Those mutants in that movie proved that they were everything that the bad guys feared they were. Even the good guys to a degree.
Actually, this background explains his point of view perfectly. Arad understands, from personal experience, the danagers and horrors a government can unleash on people. He is naturally suspicous, cautious, and distrusting of any such body.
Another group of men had the exact same point of view... then they wrote a little document in the hope that such a thing cannot happen again.
Forget those lessons at your own peril.
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Wolverine on the other hand...
(Note: in the movie, his lie to Uncle Ben lead, indirectly, to dire consequences)
... at least, this is how Stan Lee had portrayed him over the years. Spiderman is one of 2 mortals (on Earth) that were worthy to lift Thor's hammer. (The other being the one-and-only, original, Capt. America... natch)
Exactly how were they menacing?
If there were a school for gifted children in New York that armed the students with full-automatic assault rifles and had a doomsday atomic bomb capable of killing over half the population of the world in the basement, you better believe I'd support a milary raid.
Did you even watch the movie? The students were not given arms, as you describe, they were born that way. And furthermore, they were simply sitting there, on private property, not hurting anyone or even planning on hurting anyone. Did you have sympathy the ATF thugs at Waco as they incinerated women and children too? In the actual movie, the one who was using this machinery to kill was Stryker, the GOVERNMENT agent. You might try watching the movie, you might learn something...JFK
Typical moronic Hollyweird screenwriters. Captain America and The Punisher were colossal flops because those morons were not reigned in properly by Marvel. Marvel finally got wise and quit letting idiots write screenplays for their properties, and some pretty decent movies have been the result. Another exception to the rule would be Peter Jackson. LotR has been simply stellar so far, because he bucked the Hollydumb paradigm. Hopefully it happens more often...JFK
I also had the Avengers, #2-150 or so, and, at one time, Spidey #1, which I sold for $50 (it wasn't in good shape). I unloaded all of these about 10 years ago for good, but not great, money, but got my money's worth out of reading them! I, too, despised Gil Kane's art. Too contortionist.
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Huh? That's a news still, not a movie still?
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Unfortunately? That aspect of the situation helps raise the movie above the simplistic good-guys-beat-up-bad-guys level.
The X-Men has always been something of an allegory for racism and other forms of bigotry with the message being that bigotry is bad and that humans and mutants can peacefully co-exist. This movie sent a very different message to me.
The anti-bigotry message of the X-Men works because it encourages people (especially comic book fans with feelings of alienation) to identify with the mutants, to look at things from their perspective, and to see them as the undeserving targets of irrational fear and hatred. But given terrorist situations in the real world, I identified, instead, with the Secret Service agents trying futilely to save their presidident from a rampaging mutant as well as with the various humans who were menaced and were controlled like puppets, not only by the evil bad guys but by the supposed good guys, as well.
Same with identity stealing mutants. They put themselves as superior races to humans.
The whole notion of mutation in the Marvel universe is crap anyway. Persons who are "born" mutated are treated differently than those who mutate as a result of some outside influence. Also in the Marvel world, siblings sired from the same parents will have different mutant abilities than each other and even their parents. A mutation should be heriditary (possibly regressive).
It's not like there is one switch "Mutant ON/OFF" that means if you have it you will have 1 of 300,000 different abilities. Crap science. Crap politics. Don't think about it too much and tell the writers to use Western Union if they want to send messages.
So, your idea of human rights only applies to the weak and pliable.
How else do you deal with people who can kill people with their brain or any number of other such things?
The same way you deal with people who can kill people with semi-auto rifles, pipe bombs, ammonium nitrate or any number of other such things. You wait until they actually DO something illegal, THEN you seize & punish them. That's what the Constitution says.
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