Hundreds Not Receiving Child Tax Credit Check to Surround White House

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Hundreds Not Receiving Child Tax Credit Check to Surround White House; Edelman, Daschle, Pelosi Rally Hundreds Left behind

7/21/03 2:01:00 PM

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To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Toby Chaudhuri of the Children's Defense Fund, 202-662-3609

News Advisory:

-- Edelman, Daschle, Pelosi Rally Hundreds Left behind

-- Congress to Recess While Richer Families Receive Checks this Week

More than 700 youths living in households denied the child tax credit check their richer friends and neighbors will receive beginning late this week will surround the White House Wednesday to demand that President George Bush not delay their families' fair share.

The group will join Children's Defense Fund President Marian Wright Edelman, Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and hundreds of others on Capitol Hill that afternoon in a rally and new conference to stop Rep. Tom DeLay (D-Texas) from going home for summer recess without helping them.

The Senate approved a revision of the tax cut law signed by the President that would provide an additional $154 on average per child to the 12 million children living in hard working, low-income families. One hundred mothers with children in strollers last month stormed Rep.

DeLay's office because the House's version holds these 12 million children hostage to more oversized tax cuts for families who don't need it. The new tax cut law provides each of America's 190,000 millionaires $93,500 on average.

HUNDREDS NOT RECEIVING CHILD TAX CREDIT CHECKS RALLY

DATE: Wednesday, July 23, 2003

EVENTS:

12:30 p.m. -- Hundreds of youths surround White House

Camera availability at H and 16th Streets

2:15 p.m. -- News conference and rally

Upper Senate Park, Camera Preset: 2 p.m., Camera throw: 75 feet

-- Capitol Hill rain location TBA

PARTICIPANTS:

-- Marian Wright Edelman, Children's Defense Fund,

-- Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., Minority Leader

-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Minority Leader

-- 700 youths living in families denied a child tax credit check

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[ModernDayCato]

I guess I should be there...I'm not receiving a check either, which is definitely discriminatory... just because I don't have any children.

Will Little Tommy Two-Step dance for me too?

[Mr. Jeeves]

More than 700 youths living in households denied the child tax credit check their richer friends and neighbors will receive beginning late this week will surround the White House Wednesday to demand that President George Bush not delay their families' fair share.

A pretty good effort, but they left out "most vulnerable citizens" and "women and minorites disproportionately affected." The Joseph Goebbels Institute would grade it a "B".

[detsaoT]

THOSE WHO PAY NOTHING IN TAXES DO NOT DESERVE TAX BREAKS.

That is all.

:/ ttt

[linn37]

lol

[laweeks]

I get such a kick out of this. These people on the dole can afford to go to D.C. to complain that I'm not giving them enough. I work, pay my bills, am highly overtaxed to feed and clothe these knucklenoses, and I CAN'T afford to go to D.C. this year . . . and I certainly don't have the time to GO there either. What am I missing? Where in the world do they get the time or money to travel to D.C.? Silly question.

[RicocheT]

"Millionaire" families do not get child credit checks. If H & W's adjusted gross income is $150,000+, no checks.

[Night Hides Not]

If you think they're screaming now, just wait 'til next year!

We had the good fortune of visiting with our Congressman, Pete Sessions, during our vacation to DC last month. When I thanked him for his vote on this year's tax cut, he said, "there's more to come."

[Mo1]

I hear the Dems are trying to get a tax cut for stay at home moms

only problem there, I never received a paycheck .. so how could I recieve money back that I never paid?

I'm not a charity case for the dems to push their agenda

[ModernDayCato]

Hmmmm....I was actually thinking of a way to shift my assets (and therefore income) to my wife and start getting back some of the welfare tax money I've paid for the last 20 years.

Here in CT if you use all the entitlements you get close to $14 an hour, which ain't bad for sitting on yer @ss.

[mombonn]

I love how the press can cover every orchestrated event like this but IGNORED the March for Justice, when several THOUSAND people gathered on the Mall at their own expense and initiative to protest the ultimately-IMPEACHED ex42.

[Hatteras]

By the way, when are the checks going out?

[The Great RJ]

Hey, I don't get a check either because my daughter turned 17 last year. Apparently the IRS (and the idiots in Congress who write the tax laws) think that once your child hits that age parents no longer have to contribute to their support. I'll have to write my Senator, Tom Daschle, and tell him to get on the ball --I need a new muffler for my car. <sarcasm

[dfrussell]

Maybe if they had a job or were looking for one they'd have made enough money to qualify for a TAX CUT.... at least they wouldn't have time to be hanging out in D.C. whining that they wanted the .gov to *GIVE* them more money.

[eyespysomething]

Make sure you let them know that.


When we were struggling, we almost went on a Federal welfare-type program (this was 7-8 years ago). But since we ALWAYS b*%$#ed about it, we thought it would be very hypocritical to do that.

Amazingly enough, we sacrificed, scrimped and made-do-without and lo and behold! We are better off today. All without any Federal help.

Of course, with 3 kids, I will happily accept the tax credit check and promptly put it in the bank!! But then again, I do pay taxes!!

[Kozak]

Good. Hand them all brooms and pans and send them out to clean up DC. Whinning losers.

[eyespysomething]

This week ;-)

[snooker]

rent a mob.

[Mo1]

Personally I have no problem in helping folks get back on their feet in down times .. I just don't think it should be a way of life.

When I was 7 my father died of cancer and left my mother with 7 children to raise by herself .. We didn't qualify for any government programs .. not even school lunches because she owned her home and had a job (a low paying job).

We too learned to live without and within our means, but then again we never thought of it as doing without at the time .. it was just the cards we were dealt

I look back at those days, and I am glad we didn't fall into the goverment/Dem claws .. We learned that if you work hard, you can achieve anything we want.

[eyespysomething]

When I was 7 my father died of cancer and left my mother with 7 children to raise by herself .. We didn't qualify for any government programs .. not even school lunches because she owned her home and had a job (a low paying job).

Why am I not surprised?

On the otherhand:
WOW! You're mom must have been a heck of a woman. I know my 3 boys can make me crazy sometimes!! ;-)

Of course, like you said, you gotta do what you gotta do!

[steve in DC]

"Millions of Families, Receiving Child Tax Credit Checks, to Spend July 23 Working"

[Mo1]

WOW! You're mom must have been a heck of a woman. I know my 3 boys can make me crazy sometimes!! ;-)

I know I gave her a few grey hairs .. *L*

[MonroeDNA]

And just who is paying for their travel? And meals?

And who is funding those groups?

[m1-lightning]

THOSE WHO PAY NOTHING IN TAXES DO NOT DESERVE TAX BREAKS.

Where do these morons think this money is coming from? Suppose we didn't pay taxes to the federal government. Would these people be knocking on the doors of our homes demanding money from us? What's the difference?

[m1-lightning]

By the way, when are the checks going out?

According to the IRS hotline - (800-829-1040) they are going by the last two digits of your Social Security #.

00-33 Aug 8th

34-66 Aug 15th

67-99 Aug 22nd

[rainbowbright]

How can you say we pay nothing, I am a stay at home mom, until my youngest turns five, but my husband works hard, and they do take taxes from his check, you speak as if the people arguing are on welfare, we aren't on welfare, we didn't recieve the child tax credit check, I would have spent every sent on our children for school too. Why do people point fingers, if everyone was treated the same and we weren't catigorized, everything would be nice. I also read a post someone said, people that don't work, should get a job then complain about getting a check, well my husband works, and if both of us were sitting at home and not working, which would mean we were not paying any taxes at all, then no we wouldn't deserve a penny, duh

[Neets]

I wonder why I wasn't invited??
I never got the check!!!
I was told because my girl child was born in 86..not 87 or later i didn't qualify...
Heads up Mo...kids are cheaper to raise when they turn 16....(NOT!!!!!!!!!!!)

[cardinal4]

Based on your post, with 5 kids, you should already be getting most of your taxes back at the end of the year. If thats the case, why do you feel entiltled to more?

[Delta 21]

What a pleasant suprise, a few days ago, to find a check for $1200 made out to me, in my mail box. It says that its from "The United States Treasury" (do you think its good?), for "Tax Relif For America's Families".

I plan on cashing it and spending it (willy-nilly) to help out our floundering economy.

This Texas "Dude" thats in the WhiteHouse seems to be doin a pretty fair job.

[Political Junkie Too]

Here's the complicated answer to the simple question:

It is income tax vs. payroll tax, sales tax, etc. Everyone who works pays payroll tax, and only if your income is above a certain level do you also pay income tax. It is the income tax that gets credited and no other tax. So, if you don't pay income tax, then you can't get an income tax credit.

Now, the argument is that poorer people still pay taxes, they just pay sales tax and payroll tax. However, the Democrats have been blaming Republicans for years for "stealing social security," from "taking away social security." Payroll tax is social security. For someone to suggest offering a cut to payroll tax for those who don't pay income tax, they are really actually taking money from social security, which has been the club they used to whack Republicans time and time again. Demorats who suggest this would actually be doing what they accuse Republicans of doing.

So, cutting the payroll tax is taking money from the elderly and disabled and giving it to the poor (actually, it is keeping the money in the poor's pocket and not giving it to the elderly). Offering child tax credits to those who don't pay income tax is taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor.

-PJ

[Mo1]

Heads up Mo...kids are cheaper to raise when they turn 16....(NOT!!!!!!!!!!!)

Well they can't get something I don't have .. and if they have a complant, I'll tell them to go talk to the Government ... LOL

[arasina]

It's time to start burning effigies of Daschle (and Hillary...she's surely involved in this little photo op get-together if Edelman is there). I'm so tired of their stupid political games. Why don't they just go to the White House and give out $400 in cash to the parasites?

[rainbowbright]

oops you didn't understand my point sorry

[sleeper-has-awakened]

[rainbowbright]

As bad as the economy is and most people have minimum wage jobs, I am a stay at home mom at the time, but when my youngest child turns 5 I will be going to work, and then we will qualify for the tax credit check, but there are families out there which both parents are working there butts off only recieving minimum wage and they still don't qulify for the tax break. I like how people (JOKING) say you poor people don't desearve it, I like that, kinda sounds funny, but if it makes sense to you, I will quit laughing. My husband works hard, we pay our bills and make sure our children have food to eat everyday and cloths on there backs and that is my main concern, my children. We were going to spend the money on our children for school clothes and there supplies, but we managed to be able to send our children back to school with what they need.

[rainbowbright]

WE ARE NOT ON WELFARE, SO WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR POST IN TERMS OF SPEAKING MORE CLEARLY, LIKE YOU PUT IT FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE THAT MAKE LESS THAN YOU.

[rainbowbright]

You have to be a millionaire to be rich, is that what you were taught growing up?

[rainbowbright]

YOU ARE GETTING WELFARE AND HARD WORKING FAMILIES CONFUSED.
My husband works hard and there are alot of other families that work hard out there, it is just that you recieve more money. Let me see, you say if people had a job or were looking for one they may get a tax credit check, wake up and smell the coffee, I am sure that people on welfare would no that because they aren't working that they wouldn't recieve anything, my 3 year old could figure that out, We are hard working families maybe even harer working then you, but you recieve more credit.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I guess I should be there...I'm not receiving a check either, which is definitely discriminatory... just because I don't have any children.

Agreed. Where's my check!?!

[boxerblues]

We paid taxes but dont get the credit become my son was over 17 and still in school.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

I see they're still harping on the "Tax cuts for the rich!!" platform, eh? I make less than $45k/year, and I got my check this week. Glad to see the Dems think I'm "rich".

I've tried to explain this at least a hundred times to a co-worker of mine, but she still doesn't grasp the concept that you have to PAY income tax in order to benefit from a tax CUT.

I think the whole leftist agenda counts on repeating the same factless information to ignorant people in order to stay relevant. It really does boggle the mind, and it's nice to see that they're using the "its fer the chill-drun!" argument to help further their cause.

Shoot, why didn't the headline just read; "Republicans Want to Kill Poor Children!

And oh yeah, glad to see that Tom "I just bought a multi-million dollar house" Daschle is now a champion for the poor and downtrodden. What a friggin' joke these people are.

Tom, Nancy...you feel so bad? Then YOU cut them a check from your own taxpayer-funded savings.

I am sick unto death of this ridiculous argument. DeLay ought to hold a press conference and set the record straight for ALL to see. Something along the lines of, "Why would I expect a rebate on a car that I never bought? Listen, you twits...you've got to pay to play...and you didn't make the cut. Get a better job."

[eyespysomething]

Are you yelling at me?

Am I judging someone? I said it would have been hypocritical for us to use federal aid when we gripe about it so much.

I don't think I was talking about you, or judging someone.

[Nataku X]

The big problem with federal assistance is that they punish hard workers and reward lazers. I took a summer internship in a city with a very, very high cost of living. The "living wage" probably would have been more than my hourly salary.

Because of that internship last summer, the government screwed me over royally when it came to this year's FAFSA.

All my friends share my handicap, in almost all cases less severely so, and they all live on SSI, get free Medicare, get all the FAFSA they want. They can't get a job at McDonald's because they would lose their Medicare, et cetera. The system is disgusting and rewards do-nothings instead of people who put in the effort to make a contribution back and to better themselves.

[Florida_Lady]

"payroll tax" is a myth. I know because I am a graduate student receiving a stipend from a university. I make less than minimum wage and THEY DON'T WITHHOLD ANY FICA (Social Security) FROM STUDENT PAYCHECKS, yet out of every check a substantial amount is withheld for FEDERAL TAX. Anybody who has a job and receives a pay stub can see as plain as day "Federal withholding tax" in one of the spaces. There is no state income tax in my state so the only possible thing these withholdings are for in my case is INCOME TAX. Look at the TAX TABLES. If you have any "adjusted gross income" at all you must pay a tax on it. "Welfare clients" are not trying to get a tax credit because they are not paying tax on welfare payments and know damn well they don't and shouldn't qualify for a tax credit. These are low-wage earners, the "working poor" for whom minimum wage is not a living wage.

[GraniteStateConservative]

They should send you the money they send to the state socialism indoctrination centers.

[FITZ]

If you're living on one income, have kids and that income isn't very high, you're likely not to be paying income tax at all --or very little. How can you get back what you didn't pay ---- unless that money is stolen from someone else?

[GraniteStateConservative]

Welcome to FR.

If one is a Keynesian, giving checks to Americans to get them to consume is a perfectly good idea. It's at least a good deal for the retail stocks and home improvement stocks who see good months from the money. I just think it shouldn't be called a child tax rebate. It should just be a "back to school voucher" or something-- a check the government sends out to get people to spend money. Call it what it is.

Besides, I bet next year that Bush will empty out the treasury in give-aways of all sorts to get people to vote for him. His handlers can say whatever they want, but Bush's worst fear is losing re-election for president like Bush 41. He'll do anything to keep that from happening. SO-- keep hope alive! These people may get checks from the Treasury, yet!

[FITZ]

The system is disgusting and rewards do-nothings instead of people who put in the effort to make a contribution back and to better themselves.

It is ---- and when I was in college I had a friend who was a single black mother with two young children, she actually wanted to work part-time and felt she could manage a part time job and still take care of her kids and work --- but she would have lost "benefits" and like she pointed out --- lack of job history would hurt her when it came to getting a job and if you're going up for the same job with someone who has worked, they'll get the job first. The system hurts those actually trying to better themselves, but it's still better to work if you possibly can --- it does matter to potential employers.

[GraniteStateConservative]

No, she's just buying into the Keynesian notions of the Bush Administration. She wants to do her part for GDP. Where's her check?

[Kaslin]

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