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Poll: N.Y. Times less than reliable (Fox News Gets High Marks)
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 21, 2003 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 07/21/2003 3:15:26 PM PDT by TommyDale

A new poll found that less than half of Americans believe the New York Times, still considered the so-called "newspaper of record" by many establishment media organizations, is a reliable purveyor of truth.

According to pollster Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Reports, just 46 percent of Americans feel the Times is "very reliable" or "somewhat reliable."

At the same time, nearly three-fourths of Americans (72 percent) believe Fox News Channel to be a credible media source.

(Click on the link above for the entire article)

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: falsification; fnc; fox; foxnews; foxnewschannel; howellraines; jaysonblair; mediafraud; medialies; newyorktimes; nyt; nytimes; plagiarism; schadenfreude; thenewyorktimes
I bet the liberal press is having fits with this one!
1 posted on 07/21/2003 3:15:27 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale
We can do better than that - I won't be happy until I see the Slimes' "reliable" rating down into the 30's - that level would mean that only the most die-hard Kool Aid drinkers on the left still consider that rag to be a reliable news source.
2 posted on 07/21/2003 3:20:08 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Hippies. They want to save the earth, but all they do is smoke dope and smell bad.)
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To: TommyDale
The NYT will run the following headline...
"Almost 1/3 of Americans do not believe anything they see or hear on Fox News."
3 posted on 07/21/2003 3:27:33 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: GOPJ; Pharmboy; reformed_democrat; RatherBiased.com; nopardons; Tamsey; Miss Marple; SwatTeam; ...

This is the nascent Mainstream Media Shenanigans ping list. Please freepmail me to be added or dropped.
Please note this will likely become a high-volume list.
Also feel free to ping me if you come across a thread you would think worthy of the ping list. I can't catch them all!


4 posted on 07/21/2003 3:32:12 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: TommyDale
Rest of the article...


According to pollster Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Reports, just 46 percent of Americans feel the Times is "very reliable" or "somewhat reliable."

At the same time, nearly three-fourths of Americans (72 percent) believe Fox News Channel to be a credible media source.

The survey of 1,000 adults also found that most people – 73 percent – found their local newspapers to be credible, while 66 percent said they trusted CNN and 59 percent found the Wall Street Journal reliable.

"The data reflect more than a generalized distrust of media reporting," said Rasmussen's findings. "The Wall Street Journal, CNN, Fox News Channel, and local newspapers all were seen as significantly more reliable than the Times."

Rasmussen said the survey did not include questions about why Americans found the Times less reliable. One of the paper's biggest scandals involved ex-Times reporter Jayson Blair, which – as WorldNetDaily has reported – may have been caused by the Times' ultra-push to diversify its newsroom staff, regardless of credentials.

Bob Kohn, author of "Journalistic Fraud: How The New York Times Distorts the News and Why It Can No Longer Be Trusted," says the Times "is rapidly losing its reputation as a reliable source of news."

"At one time, the Times exemplified the highest standards of journalism," Kohn wrote in a column for WorldNetDaily. "That standard has now fallen into a tailspin, and the consequences for all of journalism are serious and should be of concern to all who treasure the critical role that journalism plays in maintaining our freedoms and the health of our democracy."

Political party plays a role in the Times' reputation, the poll showed. Rasmussen says the newspaper is still popular among Democrats; 52 percent said the Times was reliable, compared to 45 percent of Republicans.

Meanwhile, in other polls, Rasmussen says President Bush now leads a "generic" Democrat candidate for next year's presidential contest by just 4 percentage points, his slimmest yet.

According to polls, Bush leads an unnamed Democrat 44 percent to 40 percent. At the same time, Rasmussen says, surveys indicate that congressional Democrats are leading Republicans 42 percent to 38 percent.

Republicans have been stung lately by a poorly performing economy, while the White House has suffered from allegations that Bush misled Americans in his January State of the Union Address about Iraq's alleged nuclear weapons program as justification for the war against Baghdad.

And, as more and more U.S. soldiers are killed while serving in Iraq, Republicans – if not the White House – likely will continue to suffer bad press, analysts say.

"The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort," Bush has said. "Our coalition will stay until our work is done. Then we will leave, and we will leave behind a free Iraq."

For their part, Democrats are making the most of both problems.

"This may be the first time in recent history that a president knowingly misled the American people during the State of Union address," Terry McAuliffe, head of the Democratic National Committee, said earlier this month. "Either President Bush knowingly used false information in his State of the Union address or senior administration officials allowed the use of that information. This was not a mistake. It was no oversight and it was no error."

On the economy, Democrats claim "families are paying the price for Bush's failed tax policies."

"Unemployment continues to grow, reaching a nine-year high of 6.4 percent in June with 30,000 jobs lost last month alone," the party said in a statement.

5 posted on 07/21/2003 3:35:24 PM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: TommyDale
I guess ol Scott Rasmussen dropped his "Portrait of America" company name after the 2000 election.
6 posted on 07/21/2003 3:36:21 PM PDT by jern
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To: TommyDale; HAL9000
Why was this article unnecessarily excerpted?
7 posted on 07/21/2003 3:36:46 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...

Schadenfreude

This is the New York Times Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.


8 posted on 07/21/2003 3:37:37 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Blue Screen of Death
"Almost 1/3 of Americans do not believe anything they see or hear on Fox News."

LOL!! Or, "NYT has fewer dissatisfied readers!"

9 posted on 07/21/2003 3:40:32 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: TommyDale
LOLOL.......don't you just hate that when the libs get back news????????LOL
10 posted on 07/21/2003 3:41:25 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: Timesink
When Brit says it, I believe it.

I'm so glad he's back from vacation.

11 posted on 07/21/2003 3:41:35 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: TommyDale
Ooops, make that BAD news!
12 posted on 07/21/2003 3:41:59 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: TommyDale
"New York Times Credibility Suffers: Women and Minorities Hurt Most."
13 posted on 07/21/2003 3:43:13 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Okay, now it works: Knight's Quest, at http://www.geocities.com/engineerzero)
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To: TommyDale
But their claim will be, "We're still more reliable than Bush!"

-PJ

14 posted on 07/21/2003 3:44:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Brian S
"At one time, the Times exemplified the highest standards of journalism," Kohn wrote in a column for WorldNetDaily. "That standard has now fallen into a tailspin, and the consequences for all of journalism are serious and should be of concern to all who treasure the critical role that journalism plays in maintaining our freedoms and the health of our democracy."

A couple of years ago at work, a fairly hardcore leftist was stunned that I refused to accept the NY Slimes as an authoritative source -- especially since he was trying to con me into accepting some Krugman hit piece as definitive and unbiased. So, he called me a right-wing extremist.

He also once tried to stop me from arguing environmental issues with him, as he claims to have majored in some sort of wacko environmental studies in college. I told him that was fine, but only if he'd shut up about all economic and business issues, as I not only majored in Economics, but also have an M.B.A. :)

15 posted on 07/21/2003 3:46:46 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (LNJWGRANP)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
And ... when they use that title, get 'em for plagerizing .. ROTFLOL!
16 posted on 07/21/2003 3:48:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: TommyDale
The survey of 1,000 adults also found that most people – 73 percent – found their local newspapers to be credible, while 66 percent said they trusted CNN and 59 percent found the Wall Street Journal reliable.

I find this stunning. Most local papers only print what the NYTimes runs with, first. I often think that unless CNN and the NYTimes say it is news, the public will never hear about anything.

17 posted on 07/21/2003 3:55:38 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Wonder if anyone has done a poll contrasting ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/BBC/FOX/Al Jaseera yet.
Wonder who won...snicker.
18 posted on 07/21/2003 4:06:00 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: randog
LOL!! Or, "NYT has fewer dissatisfied readers!"

"In a recent head-to-head comparison, The New York Times came in second, and Fox News came in next to last..."

19 posted on 07/21/2003 4:07:24 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: TommyDale
"considered the so-called 'newspaper of record' by many establishment media organizations"...
...and this speaks volumes about these "establishment media organizations!"
What a laugh!

"TRUTH is the only 'newspaper of record!'"
~Clio~

20 posted on 07/21/2003 4:43:36 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Vote Democrat! Vote for national--and personal--suicide! It's like being a suicide bomber!)
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To: Timesink
I don't think any ping lists are worth it if all you get is excerpts. Can you split the list between articles and excerpts?
21 posted on 07/21/2003 4:47:59 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout
The rest of the article is in post #5. Sorry, but I think your complaint is with the increasing number of Freepers too lazy to post entire articles, not with me. Besides, usually in such cases someone else comes along, complains, and posts the article.

It's time for us to start naming and shaming those that refuse to post full articles, IMHO, not work around their sloth.

(Also, nobody else has asked for such a thing. I'd have one ping list with only you on it, and another with everyone else.)

22 posted on 07/21/2003 4:53:10 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Brian S
Political party plays a role in the Times' reputation, the poll showed. Rasmussen says the newspaper is still popular among Democrats; 52 percent said the Times was reliable, compared to 45 percent of Republicans.

?!?!?!? Who the hell are these nit-wits?

23 posted on 07/21/2003 5:03:21 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Timesink
Thanks for the ping, Timesink... I always appreciate your heads-up on these articles :-)
24 posted on 07/21/2003 5:04:41 PM PDT by Tamzee (Peace is the prerogative of the victorious, not the vanquished.... Churchill)
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To: nutmeg
You'll love this one for your Foxfan list :-)
25 posted on 07/21/2003 5:05:19 PM PDT by Tamzee (Peace is the prerogative of the victorious, not the vanquished.... Churchill)
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To: Blue Screen of Death
LMAO! How true!
26 posted on 07/21/2003 5:41:09 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Timesink
I think your complaint is with the increasing number of Freepers too lazy to post entire articles, not with me.

Certainly true. But it's much nicer to be pinged only when there is complete information on the thread.

27 posted on 07/21/2003 6:21:54 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: TommyDale
72% believe FoxNews is credible? We're in trouble. FoxNews is the "best" source on television, but it's far from credible. The truly "best" source are found right here on the web, where souls seeking truth weave their way through the propagandist cobwebs.
28 posted on 07/21/2003 6:53:05 PM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Most local papers only print what the NYTimes runs with

Exactly (although ours is liberally laced with the LA Times and WashPost sludge as well).

Some percentage, possibly a large one, of this 73% actually believe what the NY Times writes because they don't realize what they're reading in their local rag is from the NY Times. Ditto to a large extent on what appears on TV (even on Fox) since the broadcast media does little, if any, of their own newsgathering, er, I mean news manufacturing.

29 posted on 07/21/2003 7:26:33 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
Yes, people are unaware their local rag is basically filler with NYSlimes slanders in between.

But people probably 'trust' their local paper because it gets the weather mostly right.

I am deeply saddened that lies by Terry McAuliffe are repeated in this media report.
30 posted on 07/21/2003 8:11:01 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: Timesink
Good news!
31 posted on 07/22/2003 2:25:43 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Timesink
Great news!
32 posted on 07/22/2003 2:26:55 AM PDT by lainde
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To: TommyDale
bump
33 posted on 07/22/2003 9:34:41 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Blue Screen of Death
LOL

The NYT will run the following headline... "Almost 1/3 of Americans do not believe anything they see or hear on Fox News."

34 posted on 07/22/2003 9:36:11 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: TommyDale
I love it!!!!
35 posted on 07/22/2003 9:42:31 PM PDT by lawgirl (The only thing the French should be allowed to host is an invasion. -Johnny English)
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To: Faraday
45 percent of Republicans.

?!?!?!? Who the hell are these nit-wits?

Apparently, most of our U.S. Senators...

36 posted on 07/22/2003 9:51:09 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's new column.)
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To: Timesink
Sorry you think that I was lazy in not posting the entire article. Perhaps people who don't click on the provided URL are also lazy. When I started here the concern was to try to save bandwidth, so that's what I still practice. Maybe I won't bother any more, since I obviously violated the "posting police" unwritten law.
37 posted on 07/23/2003 5:36:17 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale
bump
38 posted on 07/23/2003 8:06:13 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; lonevoice; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent FoxFan list.

39 posted on 07/23/2003 11:22:45 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: TommyDale
I'll bet you're right!

I bet the liberal press is having fits with this one!

40 posted on 07/24/2003 5:21:17 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: TommyDale
It's interesting that CNN came out as more reliable than the Wall Street Journal, and TV seemed to be in general favored over print.

Is this just human nature, "I'll believe it when I see it?"

Anyway, thank God for Fox News!

41 posted on 07/24/2003 5:31:16 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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